Dana White reacts to Logan Paul vs. Mayweather match-up: 'This is the state of boxing right now'

[kflo]

The point is Brock had to still chase after the UFC NOT the other way around. Brock won a fight and the UFC still didn't give a fuck about him until he showed up in person. With CM Punk they actually flew out to Chicago with a fucking contract for a guy with no athletic background and wasn't even taking basic MMA classes for training. CM Punk wasn't even asking to fight in the UFC.

all i'm saying is they were different. brooks was an aging star looking to live out a dream after making money and leaving wrestling, going against rookies and expected to lose. brock was an athlete in the prime of his life making a serious run in a sport he had an obvious gift for. and he came first. i'm not saying things weren't different for brooks in alot of ways. just that they were used differently and positioned very differently.

 

[Dirge]

Sarcasm, bros.

You need to learn some emoji's or something bud.

Or perhaps just post this at the end of everything you say on here:

 

[Naoya#1]

Usman/Mas did 1.3m

1 ppv did 1.2 million buys just because of 1 name or maybe 2 names (Wilder) and the other sold 1. 3 million because of the marketing o fight island, a few title fights and the card as a whole aka Mas and usma weren't the reason why it sold 1.3 million, lol.

Conor is a high profile guy even by boxing and WWE standards aka he's pretty much the only guy who could sell 500k Ppv without the ufc logo and a stacked card. Put Jon Jon's into anther org and a trash card, ad he sells less than 100k Ppv.

Stomp comparing two complete deren busniess models, lol.

 

[omawho402]

If Floyd lost to Conor it wouldn't have been that damaging to his career because Conor is a former UFC champ and current professional mma fighter. But if he loses to Jake Paul (a nobody), he's fucked and the whole sport of boxing becomes a massive joke. Too much riding on the line for Floyd and too little for Jake Paul. TERRIBLE FUCKING DECISION

 

[FIghtxIQ]

The past events prove there is a market for these type of fights and exhibitions. Boxing understands that and they are making money by doing it and including it in their events. They have legit boxers mixed in with the entertainment fights, it's a win for both because more eyes on the fighters, event, and sport.

This is also why they are able to pay fighters with no fights, or only a couple fights, the fight purse they are getting plus sponsors compared to the pay UFC fighters are getting. They are getting paid more than main event and Championship fighters in the UFC. Plus the ppv numbers are bigger than most of the UFC events except for a few.

 

[Queen B]

Remember when Dana got butthurt at Oscar when he said the same thing about #MayMac

 

[jeff7b9]

Logan Paul...


forgive me because I don’t really give 2 shits about social media stars.

isn’t Logan Paul 0-2 ?

and Jake Paul is the one who just KOed an NBA star?

I wonder if people considering buying this freak show realize that seeing as how it was booked directly following Jake Paul’s win on a hugely popular fight event?



How big is Logan Paul (weight class) ?

All along I was thinking Jake Paul and that even though OBVIOUSLY the skill gap would be ridiculous, at least Jake being considerably bigger might make some sort of reason to pretend it could be an actual fight.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

I literally have no idea what you mean.

Think it through. Connect the dots. Find the similarities. Assess the situation. Then think.

 

[Steve-French]

Dana signed Kimbo after shitting on EliteXC for having him main event. A famous backyard brawler. Or CM Punk. A famous show wrestler. This guy is a famous exhibition boxer.

Fame over combat skills is the common theme.

If he wanted to have a UFC fight with all his gazillion followers then it would happen. It has nothing to do with "the state of boxing". It is entertainment. Money.



The bigger picture here is if it's good or bad for combat sports. I think it's good if the guy can bring views, attention to real fighters by being on the card. It is purely meaningless Hollywood garbage if he headlines the card with other guys on the undercard who are famous, but can't fight.

Because boxing is a 1-man sport. The views won't cross over to the next boxing card since there are new faces and no Paul involved. But for Paul himself his numbers will go up with every win or good fight. In that sense fights involving people of fame don't do much for boxing.

Dana said from day one that the only way he would sign Kimbo would would be to TUF. Which is how Kimbo got into the UFC.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

You forgot pandemic, lockdowns, and no live gate. That's the real reason for these cuts and focusing on cheaper fighter contracts. They have ESPN deal so PPV model wasn't a big issue just extra profit for big fights. It's the no live gate throughout 2020 that caused the financial strain, that is the reason for trimming expenses for the upcoming year.

Yeah, live gate is a big part of it also.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Lmao no. Ppv wnt go anywhere.

It's not going anywhere, it's just declining.

 

[Ideanudge]

Dana is not the one to talk when he sets up Brock Lesner fights....

 

[Khaiser]

If Floyd lost to Conor it wouldn't have been that damaging to his career because Conor is a former UFC champ and current professional mma fighter. But if he loses to Jake Paul (a nobody), he's fucked and the whole sport of boxing becomes a massive joke. Too much riding on the line for Floyd and too little for Jake Paul. TERRIBLE FUCKING DECISION

The entire boxing world would’ve been laughing their collective assess off for all of eternity if Floyd lost to Conor.

He would literally NEVER live it down. It would be his defining moment as a fighter.

Luckily for him he has absolutely no chance of losing to Conor or Logan Paul.

 

[Steve-French]

State of UFC 2006: Dana White refuses to sign NCAA champ Brock Lesnar in a weak division. Lesnar has to chase White down in person at a UFC show.

Modern state of UFC: Dana White flies to Chicago and offers a guy with literally no sports background a multimillion dollar deal in one of the most stack divisions.

I see what you're saying here, but Punk is the one who got a hold of Dana. Plus Dana put him on the under card against two novice fighters. 2-0 Mickey Gall and 0-1 Mike Jackson. It's not like he pitted him up in a main event against one of the best to ever do it. Which is the case with Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

Logan Paul...


forgive me because I don’t really give 2 shits about social media stars.

isn’t Logan Paul 0-2 ?

and Jake Paul is the one who just KOed an NBA star?

I wonder if people considering buying this freak show realize that seeing as how it was booked directly following Jake Paul’s win on a hugely popular fight event?



How big is Logan Paul (weight class) ?

All along I was thinking Jake Paul and that even though OBVIOUSLY the skill gap would be ridiculous, at least Jake being considerably bigger might make some sort of reason to pretend it could be an actual fight.

Logan Paul is like half a foot taller than Floyd

 

[crystallake]

He’s right, Boxings biggest fights are retired granpas... it shows the current health of boxing isnt good. But we have known that for a while, its been on a gradual decline for a while now

The tyson card was just a sideshow to the other boxing events and it still generated more attention than Dana and the ufc could dream of. Actually the tyson fight was, for people who like boxing, not even the best card on that weekend. Boxing is doing great and if they can make joshua/fury next year it will be a huge worldwide event. I guess dana is bitter as hell, he has been talking shit about boxing for a long time, saying the ufc and mma would be bigger and that boxing is dead.. Meanwhile the ufc and mma still are only a niche pretty much everywhere outside the US while boxing is a worldwide recognized sport bringing great fights again and doing huge numbers.

Btw what happened with zuffa boxing? I guess it didn't do well since he is back to talking shit about boxing again.

 

[GOATweight]

i mean im no fan of the paul brothers but imagine what it would do for the ufc, a bunch of teenage dudes seeing their hero vlog and video about his upcoming ufc fight and the camp, get new fans involved, plus logan would do better than anyone in the contender series basically, young, marketable, explosive, boxing skills, wrestling.

It would be great for more attention to the sport. But you don't bring Logan Paul to the UFC to fight Khabib or someone like that. You get him to fight some newcomer or a Mike Perry type of dude at best. A popular journeyman opponent. Not one of the best in the sport, that's just ridiculous.

 

[Khaiser]

Dana’s correct in the sense that it is a complete joke of an event.

He’s hypocritical though in the sense that it’s a joke he would absolutely love to be let of.

 

[bubbleboyjones]

Think it through. Connect the dots. Find the similarities. Assess the situation. Then think.

Multiple random statements(which seems to be your style) doesn't hold much weight around here which is not surprising from some of our newer members of less than a few months.

Welcome to the forums.

 

[omawho402]

The entire boxing world would’ve been laughing their collective assess off for all of eternity if Floyd lost to Conor.

He would literally NEVER live it down. It would be his defining moment as a fighter.

Luckily for him he has absolutely no chance of losing to Conor or Logan Paul.

Conor is a professional fighter, Jake Paul is a nobody in the fight world. HUGE difference