Dana White reacts to Logan Paul vs. Mayweather match-up: 'This is the state of boxing right now'

[Bowel-forged Stool]

If logan actually won this..

You’d know pretty boy Floyd was betting against himself

 

[JeffDredd]

i don't think he was mad at all about tyson-jones doing well.

of course, taking a pot shot at boxing for this though. this isn't tyson-jones. this is a social media guy against one of the ATG's of boxing in an exhibition.

but hey, the spence fight was decent......for those who cared.

Wait till the Spence numbers come out. If he does over 300k I'll call it a success.

I doubt he does over 500k when/if he fights Crawford and thats boxings second biggest marquee fight!

 

[BigGucci]

60 fighters cut to make room for contenders shit show, this is the state of MMA.

 

[bubbleboyjones]

Do you have a source for DW refusing to sign Brock in 2006? Do you know the actual dynamics of the negotiations if there were any? Remember the UFC was not anywhere as big then and in fact was on the verge of dying until TUF worked out. The Finale was only April 2005. Its quite possible Brock was demanding a shit ton of money as he is notorious for his negotiating.

It is also quite possible DW saw this as his now know to be typical strategy of using the UFC as a "Stalking Horse" to simply get a better deal from the WWE. He may have let Brock prove he was really serious about doing MMA by having a fight elsewhere.

CM Punk was a circus but it was at least spun for what it was. Guy wants to have a dream fight in the UFC against another amateur. It wasn't a GOAT like Mayweather vs a non boxer. It was also not the main event in either of his two fights.

Yep. Link below. In fact I specifically remember talking about this on Sherdog forums back in 2006-2007 how Dana wasn't taking Brock serious. The first reports we had back then was when Lesnar was training at Miletich's camp and Miletich said he was scary because of how fast he was for that size. UFC was just a different thing back then. UFC was just getting really popular so they were incredibly insecure about not being taken as a serious sport which is why they wouldn't sign Lesnar without at least a fight first. Back in 2006 CM Punk never would have been signed.

I highly doubt Lesnar's asking price was the issue. UFC would have made money in spades over his asking price. If Lesnar brings an extra 300,000 buys thats around 15 million. Trust me it wasn't a money thing. Lesnar was asking for PPV points and probably $250-500k base. Thats nothing for his stature. UFC has no issue paying CM Punk that because they make way more than that.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/mma/...oss-dana-white-for-his-return-to-the-octagon/

 

[kflo]

I mean if he didn't book fights as recent 2 and a half years ago involving CM punk on a ppv main card, in a clear attempt to generate buys maybe he'd have a leg to stand on hating on booking Paul on the card. He's whining about what he's already done himself with his own show.

as mentioned, punk wasn't fighting anderson silva. the punk fight was akin to the paul / nate fight on the tyson card.

and hey, i'm not hating anyway. they are in it to sell wolf tickets here. i'm sure logan paul fans will buy it. i don't think many floyd fans will. but it will still draw interest. floyd is a retired boxer now fighting exhibitions.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Meh he is not wrong, the fight is an absolute joke, no way in hell does Paul deserve to fight Mayweather in any way shape or form, nor does he deserve the money he will receive from fighting him...the kid is just not a fucking fighter. You cannot compare this freak show to the Tyson/RJJ exhibition as the latter was two legends of boxing going at it in their old age...this one is a legend vs a spoiled brat...fuck this fight.

"No way in hell does Paul deserve the money he will receive from fighting him (Mayweather).
Who are you to decide this? Fans are idiots and if they pay for this nonsense then good for this dude that he can get paid off of dumb fans. I didn't know who he was until he knocked out Robinson. In my head Yoel Romero should be getting paid 5 times what Paul will make off that fight but what do I know.

 

[kflo]

Yep. Link below. In fact I specifically remember talking about this on Sherdog forums back in 2006-2007 how Dana wasn't taking Brock serious. The first reports we had back then was when Lesnar was training at Miletich's camp and Miletich said he was scary because of how fast he was for that size. UFC was just a different thing back then. UFC was just getting really popular so they were incredibly insecure about not being taken as a serious sport which is why they wouldn't sign Lesnar without at least a fight first. Back in 2006 CM Punk never would have been signed.

I highly doubt Lesnar's asking price was the issue. UFC would have made money in spades over his asking price. If Lesnar brings an extra 300,000 buys thats around 15 million. Trust me it wasn't a money thing. Lesnar was asking for PPV points and probably $250-500k base. Thats nothing for his stature. UFC has no issue paying CM Punk that because they make way more than that.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/mma/...oss-dana-white-for-his-return-to-the-octagon/

they signed brock after 1 fight and put him in a prominent spot against a former champ. they knew he was different than punk.

 

[superpunch]

If people want to see celebrity boxing matches between a pro and what ever Logan Paul is supposed to be then I have nothing against such a spectacle.
Next up is Canelo vs James Charles and Cyborg Justino vs Lele Pons. Now those are some fights right there.

Canelo vs Butterbean
and
Cyborg vs Shaq

Yes please

 

[superpunch]

I think I’m growing out of this sport.
2020 is hitting hard, a lot of fighters I’ve been following for a decade are retiring, Hollywood entertainers are fighting professional boxers. What is going on?

Logan Paul is 25 years old and is training for real. I understand, when you get older, and can't imagine yourself in your prime anymore. But there's nothing magical about these guys. Just because you at 40 or 50 can't even if you train hard, doesn't mean that Logan Paul at 25 can't.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Lol, Uncle Fester sees Tyson the 1.2m PVV buys he got and only dreams of those kinds of numbers to feed his gambling and prostitute addiction

Usman/Mas did 1.3m

 

[kflo]

Logan Paul is 25 years old and is training for real. I understand, when you get older, and can't imagine yourself in your prime anymore. But there's nothing magical about these guys. Just because you at 40 or 50 can't even if you train hard, doesn't mean that Logan Paul at 25 can't.

at the same time, taking any random high school level athlete and training them has an extremely low probability of turning them into something special, especially starting in their 20s.

 

[Naoya#1]

The state of the UFC is fine. The state of the UFC fighters salary is not so fine. Dana and the evil mouse flipped the script. It's volume over quality now. Dana doesn't want to pay the big ticket fighters since he believes PPV is a dying model. Grow the revenue and profits for Dana and Co. and give the fighters the crumbs. That's the real state of the UFC.

Lmao no. Ppv wnt go anywhere.

 

[bubbleboyjones]

they signed brock after 1 fight and put him in a prominent spot against a former champ. they knew he was different than punk.

The point is Brock had to still chase after the UFC NOT the other way around. Brock won a fight and the UFC still didn't give a fuck about him until he showed up in person. With CM Punk they actually flew out to Chicago with a fucking contract for a guy with no athletic background and wasn't even taking basic MMA classes for training. CM Punk wasn't even asking to fight in the UFC.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

State of UFC 2006: Dana White refuses to sign NCAA champ Brock Lesnar in a weak division. Lesnar has to chase White down in person at a UFC show.

Modern state of UFC: Dana White flies to Chicago and offers a guy with literally no sports background a multimillion dollar deal in one of the most stack divisions.

That was after the Brock era. Of course they were going after the WWE fanbase again. Not a great example since Brock helped opened that door for them and they just wanted to try and capitalize more, it's just that CM Punk wasn't skilled enough to be allowed to keep fighting even with the lowest tier fighters.

 

[sonhow]

Canelo vs Butterbean
and
Cyborg vs Shaq

Yes please

Canelo vs Butterbean is too fair since Bean is a boxer with fights on his record.
Cyborg vs Shag is good.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

The UFC isn't much better right now. Letting guys like Romero go and gifting 100s of contracts to guys in the contender series

Because one Romero is worth a couple dozen of those contracts.

 

[Scurvydawg]

My guess is Conrad pulls out of the Dustin fight. Gives a big middle finger to any type of charity and Dana, then goes and fights Jake Paul on the undercard! Now that would make Dana eat his words. haha.

Dana- "This is the state of Boxing right now"
99% of UFC fighters- "God damn where do we sign up? Were making pennies over here"

 

[bubbleboyjones]

That was after the Brock era. Of course they were going after the WWE fanbase again. Not a great example since Brock helped opened that door for them and they just wanted to try and capitalize more, it's just that CM Punk wasn't skilled enough to be allowed to keep fighting even with the lowest tier fighters.

I literally have no idea what you mean.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

The state of the UFC is fine. The state of the UFC fighters salary is not so fine. Dana and the evil mouse flipped the script. It's volume over quality now. Dana doesn't want to pay the big ticket fighters since he believes PPV is a dying model. Grow the revenue and profits for Dana and Co. and give the fighters the crumbs. That's the real state of the UFC.

You forgot pandemic, lockdowns, and no live gate. That's the real reason for these cuts and focusing on cheaper fighter contracts. They have ESPN deal so PPV model wasn't a big issue just extra profit for big fights. It's the no live gate throughout 2020 that caused the financial strain, that is the reason for trimming expenses for the upcoming year.

 

[Fioretti]

I assume you were trying to be funny right?

without exaggeration, floyd would win with 1 hand tied behind his back.

Sarcasm, bros.