Dana plans immediate Nunes-Penna rematch, who you got in the rematch?

[Nathan LaMontagne]

Me and a few others have been saying Nunes isn't much more than a brawler.

She's never been this technical savant.
She has gotten by simply by overpowering and overwhelming her opponents (that generally fought scared.

 

[560ti]

Immediate?

I fucking called it.

Called it ? It's not really a bold prediction or hot take, Nunes has won 9 straight title fights.

Her getting an immediate rematch was a given (especially since Pena started the press conference by stating "i'm a company girl, i'll fight her again")

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

It’s not often that upsets are reversed. @Kyojiro Kagenuma pointed out Stipe vs DC, and I offered my thoughts on that. Since UFC 1, the person who won the first fight also wins the rematch 62% of the time.
https://www.oddsshark.com/ufc/ufc-rematch-betting-strategy-statistics

Each matchup is different tho.

I couldn’t find stats specifically on immediate rematches, but I’d guess they follow roughly the same pattern.
Conor won his vs Nate (barely, I guess)
Stipe beat DC

Conor lost his against Poirier
Weili lost hers to Rose
Joanna also lost hers to Rose
Jose lost his to Max
Anderson lost his to Weidman
Max lost his to Volk

Just off the top of my head, it’s pretty lopsided towards the winner of the first fight also winning the rematch.

Rose also beat Torres and Andrade, both won their first matches against her

 

[BFoe]

Each matchup is different tho.

Rose also beat Torres and Andrade, both won their first matches against her

That’s a good point about the Torres fight. The Andrade fight is different to me because Andrade was getting totally outclassed the first fight. I picked Rose to win that rematch just because Andrade’s win seemed so flukey.

 

[kuroro]

Yes making up. Apparently there is a Goat in every Division and every generation. Why so we even need to have a Womens Goat? I can already see people proclaiming Pena the Goat, if she wins the rematch. If these titles are what excites you, then this fight might seem appealing to you. I personally like it more when the so called Goat is able to dodge or defend a simple jab.

i'm not going to split hairs about it. when people say nunes is the goat, they're being factual. she beat all the best female fighters. and even after this bizarre performance against pena she'll still be the odds on favorite in the rematch.

 

[mmamxfan]

Where is the "I couldn't give 2 shits about wmma" Option? It should be an option on the poll.

 

[Jojomojo]

i'm not going to split hairs about it. when people say nunes is the goat, they're being factual. she beat all the best female fighters. and even after this bizarre performance against pena she'll still be the odds on favorite in the rematch.

How is proclaiming someone the Goat ever "factual" lol? Its always an opinion. In MMA some people have the tendency to proclaim a new Goat every 2 years and then act like its normal.
Really overused nonsense.

 

[DoctorsStoppage]

Maybe. She's a new mother and seems to really love that role. Seems distracted. If she wants to quit she can. If she wants to continue, she has to understand she's not SO much better than everyone that she can literally not train and just show up. It will demand more of her than that.

She is that much better than anyone else, her striking precision and power is on 2 new levels above. She can probably beat some women without a training camp, but she must do it in 2 minutes. Gasing out in 1 round is simply inexcusable.

The warning signs are most certainly there for Nunes... her striking got already exposed against GDR, and now this disaster against Pena. It's very rare that a champion caliber fighter totally collapses from one second to the other basically... it somewhat reminded me of the McGregor-Diaz turn of events, also in the 2nd round... I can see the arguments for a Pena win in the rematch, historical experience also tends in that direction.

That said... Nunes badly hurt Pena in the first round... and then when she completely fell apart and looked like a gassed amateur brawler... she STILL managed to do quite a big damage to Pena. I mean, there was a realistic chance for a Nunes KO even in those circumstances.

And Pena is still not a great fighter. I think I would favor a motivated Nunes in the rematch.

Nunes hits like a man, her striking was too much even for Cyborg, who is widely considered the #1/2 goat.
Its only logical to think that Nunes had no training camp, she was completely gassed out in 1 round. The second round was hard to watch, these two women set the wmma as a sport 10years back again.

 

[Prex32]

Pena will have more confidence and know what she needs to do. Nunes will try the same thing again.

This almost always happens where the champ loses, doesn't learn from their mistake and then goes on a losing streak.

or she will try to "adjust" and fail even harder

 

[DestinedAussie]

It was, she just got beat to the punch in the 2nd. She wasn't able to finish in the 1st and she realized she didn't have a grappling advantage over Pena. Nunes was throwing her same combinations she usually throws. Pena just caught her coming in over and over again. It was very similar to the GDR fight, she just had grappling to fall back on in that fight, she didn't have that with Pena.

I think she had emptied the gas tank and was having her conor moment. I wonder if the fighting at the higher weight class has made the cut much harder for her.

 

[Franklin U.]

Usually I'd have a definitive opinion in such a re match but I have to wonder how bad does Nunes want that title back.

Pena has to be in her head. First fighter able to bite on her m-piece , take her monster punches and fire back .... and get the better of her.

I want to see how much of a favorite Amanda is when openers post.

 

[dagfin]

Nunes probably wants to avenge the loss but I see her retiring after that.

 

[BangBang]

If i want to see unskilled violence, i can watch a local MMA or kickboxing show. This fight however wasnt worthy of a titlefight.

My man, how could you not enjoy the drama unfold. I was open mouthed , shouting at my TV. That kind of drama is only once every several years. Utterly memorable.

 

[DoctorsStoppage]

My man, how could you not enjoy the drama unfold. I was open mouthed , shouting at my TV. That kind of drama is only once every several years. Utterly memorable.

it was worse than the worst ronda fight

 

[BangBang]

it was worse than the worst ronda fight

Poor you, lol

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Stipe is the only person in UFC history (that I can recall) that has gotten finished, gotten an instant rematch and then won. To be fair, he was losing the rematch too until DC started getting caught.

The odds are not in Nunes' favor. Most former champions just think they had a bad night, change nothing and then either lose worse or more convincingly the 2nd time around because they've been figured out. Also, the new champ has a bunch of confidence.

Instant rematches after getting finished are completely unwarranted and I don't understand the UFC's obsession with them. You shouldn't have to beat a champion twice for it to count.

 

[BangBang]

Usually I'd have a definitive opinion in such a re match but I have to wonder how bad does Nunes want that title back.

Pena has to be in her head. First fighter able to bite on her m-piece , take her monster punches and fire back .... and get the better of her.

I want to see how much of a favorite Amanda is when openers post.

Yeah, my reflex action was Nunes would.come back stronger and annihilate Julianna. But she trained for this, she got tired because she wasn't mentally prepared.

I'm going for Pena in the rematch.

 

[13Seconds]

Nunes is shot just like Ronda when she fell off a cliff. female mma athletes just get shot overnight.

Dumbest post ever

Ronda just faced better fighters

 

[Livingenergy]

Why are people doubting Julianna so strongly even after such a massive upset.

 

[Franklin U.]

Yeah, my reflex action was Nunes would.come back stronger and annihilate Julianna. But she trained for this, she got tired because she wasn't mentally prepared.

I'm going for Pena in the rematch.

If history continues to repeat itself then this is the path that usually happens.

However - Nunes was such a massive favorite , I dont even know where Vegas sets the line at.

Ronda was a -1600 favorite over Holm ( in hindsight- crazy - given the styles, size and length of Holly). Holm lost belt so we'll never know what re match odds wouldve been.
That's the problem with wmma. From -1600 to a pk em .... maybe ? Wed never see such a gap in mens.