Media Dana confirms Jon Jones retired

BowserJr said:
You defeat your own points.

Shogun had 26 training camps and 3 career eneding knee injuries when he fought Jones.

Jones had 14 fights.

That's a difference of 12 fight camps and 3 career ending injuries between Jones and Shogun.

Compared to Jones at 30 fights to Tom's 18 thats the same number of fight/camp differential except Jones doesn't have 3 career ending injuries.

Jon v Shogun is an easier matchup for Jon than Tom v Jon for Tom. Jones doesn't have the injuries Shogun had. Plus Tom has more wear and tear on his body than Jon did when he fought Shogun.

And Tom has more to lose than Jon did when Jon fought Shogun.

No matter which way you dice it. Jon had the easier and better opportunities
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Jon has never had any injuries?

You do know how Tom got an interim belt right?
 
markg171 said:
Why do you guys keep ignoring that Jon said he was retiring after Stipe way back when Tom was still coming off his loss to Blaydes and wasn't even in contention.
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Then why not retire in November officially? Why play it out for so long?


markg171 said:
The Shogun comparisons are also just flat out dumb for so many reasons.

- Shogun was only 29, not 38
- Tom is 32, not 23 like Jon was
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So both groups are 6 years apart? Got it.
markg171 said:
- Jon holds the record for most title defences in UFC history so has already
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So retire sooner and not let the drama go on

markg171 said:
given the most opportunities in UFC history for someone to take his belt
- Jon was a short notice replacement for Rashad who had the title shot and probably would've beaten Shogun
- Tom has more fights and has been in MMA way long than Jon did
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So tom was / is a more worthy contender than Jon was
markg171 said:
You should really look into your talking points before just regurgitating them.
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You know Jon will never fuck you, right? Your incessant simping for him is odd.
 
Fight Professor said:
I think Jones just wanted to be the champ longer than Stipe.
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IDK man. I think he had his sights set on late August to break Cain's record.

I think his plan was to delay Aspinall scheduling a fight until September or October, so he could stay champion until then.

But all the pressure the MMA community has put on Dana White and Jon himself paid off. And then Jon just got into another hit and run accident where he "appeared intoxicty and was lacking clothes from the waist down" was the nail in the coffin. Can't do a fight camp when you're facing jail time for yet again fleeing the scene of an accident.
 
Fedorgasm said:
So he wasted a year and a half of Tom's prime just for laughs? What a dick.
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Yup. We can only hope that Tom gets a fight scheduled ASAP, stays healthy, and gets to bang out 2-3 wins in the next 12 months.

And realistically, Tom only missed 2 fights. He's been out for almost 12 months, and he fights about twice a year on average. It's not great, but it's not like he would have had 4-5 fights in the time he's been sitting out.
 
Mark should be banned. Not banning trolls is irresponsible. Ban him.
 
As much as I don't like Jones as a person I don't understand why people are criticizing him so much for doing this. I completely understand why he wouldn't want to give Tom the chance to make a name off him and give him his first loss when he's Jones is 37 and past his prime. Why not just retire undefeated and not risk peoples last memory of you being knocked out?
 
So Aspinall v Bones MSG fight is all but confirmed then
 
mkess101 said:
@Luffy

Buddy...are you dropping the act now?
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Nah, all 3d chess. The UFC wants Tom to be more known by beating Gane, as a match still is not what they hope in PPV. Once he beats Gane (likely but who knows) and makes it way more known into promotion, then the reveal will all land on and JJ will pop up again and "NEW" ... Then have another defense bs whoever wins between Ankalaev and Alex.

Tom couldn't fight JJ holding the interim. That'd give him no $ participation ... So leaving the undisputed to him would both let the division move on and give Tom more $ by having the belt when fighting Jon Jones... That's if Alex loses. If Alex wins the rematch, he'd likely go to HW and steal Aspinall's win maybe. But unlikely, they'd bring JJ back (JJ said "well the UFC knows, I will still pop up for 1 or 2 more but for now let Tom build more" ) ...

It's like when DC had the belt and JJ had been stripped. JJ comes back with DC as the undisputed and wins. Dana said "September you all will be seeing something special" ... September matches the 6 months .. March+ 6 months = September. JJ meant November + 6 months = May... But it got reconstructed to September because of platforms deals , but waiting until then would bring the stalling when Dana said JJ accepted... The act now is for Tom to move the division a little and have the fight when it is more advantageous in a new platform. Ideally tho, JJ would like to it be seen by you all in Many rather than the 6 months needing to be read as from March... But espn+ end prevented that so they possibly did the May special so it can be used in a new platform... IFW fell short as again, special fights wouldn't be profitable as Netflix deal requires more time. That's why the already done rematch of Alex is now talked by Ali, Ankalaev and Alex as September, October or November

Ankalaev and Ali said October. Alex said September, October, November... To maximize the Chicago card as they all know the new platforms deal forces them to be on hold as special stars (Alex) and wait for when the fighters and promoters can get the most from the already done fights.
 
CdaMMA said:
As much as I don't like Jones as a person I don't understand why people are criticizing him so much for doing this. I completely understand why he wouldn't want to give Tom the chance to make a name off him and give him his first loss when he's Jones is 37 and past his prime. Why not just retire undefeated and not risk peoples last memory of you being knocked out?
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He was out of his prime the day he popped for PED´s. And how long is that now? So long ago that I've forgotten when it was.
 
BowserJr said:
You defeat your own points.

Shogun had 26 training camps and 3 career eneding knee injuries when he fought Jones.

Jones had 14 fights.

That's a difference of 12 fight camps and 3 career ending injuries between Jones and Shogun.

Compared to Jones at 30 fights to Tom's 18 thats the same number of fight/camp differential except Jones doesn't have 3 career ending injuries.

Jon v Shogun is an easier matchup for Jon than Tom v Jon for Tom. Jones doesn't have the injuries Shogun had. Plus Tom has more wear and tear on his body than Jon did when he fought Shogun.

And Tom has more to lose than Jon did when Jon fought Shogun.

No matter which way you dice it. Jon had the easier and better opportunities
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Dude, you fucking lie too much man and change history. 26 training camps? Before the Jones fight? Lol the fuck are you talking about, “training camps” wasnt even really a thing till 06-07’s fighters were still trying to figure out what works in preparation for a fight. Lol at career ending knee injuries, this isn’t the 1990’s. By the way Shogun Rua himself said he wasn’t injured for the Jones fight, but you still claim he was. And you wonder why I call you dishonest.
 
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