Crime Dallas Officer Kills Man in Apartment "She Thought Was Hers"

Definitely killed this guy intentionally for some reason, that we will probably never know.
 
Leagon said:
Coroner just confirmed that the bullet entered him at a downward angle, entering around the heart and ending around the lower left rib area. Pretty much confirmed that Jean must have been bent at the waist.

Dude was likely sitting, or just standing up. Possible that he was charging her at 45 degrees like some shoot wrestler in an anime, though. Can't rule that out.
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Most likely charging in for the ankle pick.
 
Leagon said:
Coroner just confirmed that the bullet entered him at a downward angle, entering around the heart and ending around the lower left rib area. Pretty much confirmed that Jean must have been bent at the waist.

Dude was likely sitting, or just standing up. Possible that he was charging her at 45 degrees like some shoot wrestler in an anime, though. Can't rule that out.
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No way he charged her. His ear buds that fell out of his ears were less than a foot away from the couch.
 
HockeyBjj said:
Jesus christ. The whole time I was picturing this story from her perspective, it was that he heard her jostling at the door and was walking to it when it pushed open for her and she saw a big dude 5 feet away from the doorway and panic shot at point blank (not that thats excusible in the slightest)

But this bitch shot over the kitchen counter to hit him in the living room. Like, he's so far away. It's not an adrenaline rush fight or fight response to unknown dude suddenly in your face. At 16 seconds just look how the cops arriving have to walk all the way across the apartment to get to him.

Like, she had full view of everything to see it wasn't her apartment. I was thinking lights off, back-lit from hallway, maybe all she saw was the guy in her face. If it was so dark she couldn't tell looking into the whole of the residence, how the hell she even hit him with shots?
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Damn that's so messed up.

Literally her entire defense was him charging her and her tired from a working a 14 hour shift. Only a few days into this trial and they have proof that both of those points are a complete lie....... (she might be so oblivious that she actually gets charged with murder)

Unbelievable.
 
I wouldn't bet money on murder but this seems like slam dunk manslaughter.
 
LifeIsNotFair said:
I wouldn't bet money on murder but this seems like slam dunk manslaughter.
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I know this question has been asked a ton of times but - if she is being charged and tried on murder can they still convict her of manslaughter? If she is off on murder, shes off completely, no?
 
SIRGAY HARITONOB! said:
I know this question has been asked a ton of times but - if she is being charged and tried on murder can they still convict her of manslaughter? If she is off on murder, shes off completely, no?
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I'm glad they're pursuing murder and I don't see how they don't get it. You can't just kill any unfamiliar person you see, even in your own home. Unless there's some shred of evidence that he posed a threat to her, then we're simply left with the facts that not a single eyewitness heard her shout anything before the shots, the body being found far from the door, and the angle of the bullet entry implying that he was at least bent over and, at worst, on his knees.

That's second degree murder.
 
SIRGAY HARITONOB! said:
I know this question has been asked a ton of times but - if she is being charged and tried on murder can they still convict her of manslaughter? If she is off on murder, shes off completely, no?
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I think it depends on State, whether a jurisdiction can automatically apply a lower crime/statute when the higher one doesn't convict

In some places, like say wherever Zimmerman got charged, they can't and it's why he got off''

The entire point of 'overcharging' by a Prosecution is to get a plea bargain, once the defendant requests a trial in lieu of plea, the actual sustainable charges are what needs to be filed.

I mean i'm not a lawyer, but I do own all seasons of the original Law and Order
 
Leagon said:
I'm glad they're pursuing murder and I don't see how they don't get it. You can't just kill any unfamiliar person you see, even in your own home. Unless there's some shred of evidence that he posed a threat to her, then we're simply left with the facts that not a single eyewitness heard her shout anything before the shots, the body being found far from the door, and the angle of the bullet entry implying that he was at least bent over and, at worst, on his knees.

That's second degree murder.
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Agreed.

Wasn't planned but was unprovoked and reckless disregard of human life.

This case is literally the textbook definition of 2nd degree murder
 
Leagon said:
I'm glad they're pursuing murder and I don't see how they don't get it. You can't just kill any unfamiliar person you see, even in your own home.
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Are you sure this is true? I was under the impression if you catch someone in your home you can kill them. They don't need to pose a threat first they are in your home and that's that. Like if I wake up in my home at 3am and here someone in the kitchen and I know I'm the only one at home and I pull at my gun and kill him I'm like 99% sure I'm good. Regardless of what he was doing in my house.
 
Negligent homicide or some such lesser charge and a very short stint followed by probation. She might do a year or 18 months, but I doubt it.

If you're going to be upset by that sentence you might as well start your engines, because no way is she catching a murder rap for this. First off, nobody would. It's not a murder. Secondarily, she is a cop, a female, was sober and it seems like a tragic error in judgement/mistake and will likely be treated as such.
 
PHATV said:
Negligent homicide or some such lesser charge and a very short stint followed by probation. She might do a year or 18 months, but I doubt it.

If you're going to be upset by that sentence you might as well start your engines, because no way is she catching a murder rap for this. First off, nobody would. It's not a murder. Secondarily, she is a cop, a female, was sober and it seems like a tragic error in judgement/mistake and will likely be treated as such.
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Define "murder."
 
method115 said:
Are you sure this is true? I was under the impression if you catch someone in your home you can kill them. They don't need to pose a threat first they are in your home and that's that. Like if I wake up in my home at 3am and here someone in the kitchen and I know I'm the only one at home and I pull at my gun and kill him I'm like 99% sure I'm good. Regardless of what he was doing in my house.
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Well I'm no legal scholar, but as I understand it, the person has to knowingly ("and with force" according to what Wikipedia says about Texas' castle doctrine) be in your home. Some if you come home and someone had accidentally gotten into your place, you can't just walk in and off them.

If they broke your window to get in, I guess that covers the force aspect. But if they're sleeping when you get in, you don't know if they simply mistook your apartment for the wrong one.

Imagine if Jean came home after Amber and she somehow got in. If he came in and just saw her standing in his kitchen, he couldn't just kill her like that.
 
PHATV said:
Negligent homicide or some such lesser charge and a very short stint followed by probation. She might do a year or 18 months, but I doubt it.

If you're going to be upset by that sentence you might as well start your engines, because no way is she catching a murder rap for this. First off, nobody would. It's not a murder. Secondarily, she is a cop, a female, was sober and it seems like a tragic error in judgement/mistake and will likely be treated as such.
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Barge in on your neighbor and shoot him watching TV in his living room. See if you catch a murder sentence
 
SIRGAY HARITONOB! said:
This was a premeditated execution along with a coverup. The more I hear the more I believe it.

Why is the question. And we will never know.
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At this point, it's not enough that she goes away for murder. Other people need to get charged for trying to cover it up.
 
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