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Crime Dallas Officer Kills Man in Apartment "She Thought Was Hers"

HereticBD said:
I don't see how that has anything to do with anything. I guess it's character shit, but overall, what does it have to do with the case? Prosecution seems to be reaching to make her out to be a liar, which is worrying in that they're not confident in the actual.case evidence.

Hey guys, she walked into someone else's apartment and blew him away. Do you really need this side show shit?
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Are you for real dude? Her mindset at the time of the shooting is relevant to the charges. The distinction between murder and manslaughter is the mental element of the offense: murder is acting with the intention to cause death; manslaughter is a death resulting for an act that was deliberately intended to cause harm or an act that was criminally negligent.

Her defense is that she went to the wrong apartment because she was "exhausted" after a long day of work. The fact that she was planning on fucking her partner and then going out later is evidence to the contrary.

She's on the hook for this no matter what, and her best defense is to make the case for criminally negligent manslaughter.

Also, they were communicating immediately before and after the shooting, during which she made no effort to render aid.

Deletion of the texts is obstruction. Her partner should have been charged for attempting to hinder the investigation.
 
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Cubo de Sangre said:
Thanks. Can you paraphrase the defense? Do they really think it being a mistake absolves her of any responsibility or repercussions?
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Havent sat through it yet. I'll try when I do. I have a feeling I will struggle though. Lawyers tend to speak in some foreign voodoo language to my laymen ear.
 
Phisher said:
Are you for real dude? Her mindset at the time of the shooting is relevant to charges. This distinction between murder and manslaughter is the mental element of the offense: murder is acting with the intention to cause death; manslaughter is a death resulting for an act that was deliberately intended to cause harm or an act that was criminally negligent.

Her defense is that she went to the wrong apartment because she was "exhausted" after a long day of work. The fact that she was planning on fucking her partner and then going out later is evidence to the contrary.

She's on the hook for this no matter what, and her only way out is to make the case for criminally negligent manslaughter.

Also, they were communicating immediately before and after the shooting, during which she made no effort to render aid.

Deletion of the texts is obstruction. Her partner should have been charged for attempting to hinder the investigation.
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Fair enough.

TBH, I'm not following the intricate details of the case too much. I just think a woman going into someone else's apartment and blowing them away under the guise that she was mistaken over the residence, is pretty cut and dry bullshit, and the most desperate of all desperate defenses.

Then again, the "Twinkie defense" worked, so what do I know?
 
MMAisGod said:
Kind of my thought as well. The "1st degree murder" charge sounds pretty cute and catchy, but is pretty much a guarantee that she will get the "not guilty" treatment. Makes no sense.

Or does it?
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The People can ask the Court to instruct the jury on lesser offense, if it’s looking like they won’t come back guilty on a 1st degree.

If they don’t ask for such an instruction and it hangs, it does look kinda dive-y.
 
HockeyBjj said:
Family will receive 20 million dollars from Minneapolis, who quickly settled the lawsuit after Noor's conviction

Edit whoops. Delete. I thought this was the Minnesota cop shooting the 911 caller story. Mod please delete. @Madmick since you're active in this thread
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If the city pays off the family, then you can assume the whole thing is fishy. The city isn’t on the hook for what their employees do on their free time.
 
jefferz said:
Sounds like the DA is doing everything he can to get the case thrown out.
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Yeah just after this they ask for a mistrial but it is refused.

They know they can't lie their way out so have to try and fuck up the trial.
 
Is there already some idea of what type of sentence we can expect her to get in this? Didn't follow the trial, but I hope she's not getting away with this shit.
 
Can the DA be held in contempt of court for disobeying the judge's instructions?
 
They just showed Amber Guyger's key in the door lock. Key doesn't turn and lock blinks red. Her key was found dangingling from the door.

Botham's key goes into the lock, turns, makes the lock blink green, and makes a mechanical "whirring" sound.

No signs of forced entry.

It's certainly possible she was talking to her partner/lover and didn't notice the lock and Botham's door was already ajar and she strolled in. Which would be consistent with her story.

But this also lends credence to the witnesseses who heard her banging on the door and it seems the defense is making the argument that the door must have been opened for her somehow.
 
Leagon said:
They just showed Amber Guyger's key in the door lock. Key doesn't turn and lock blinks red. Her key was found dangingling from the door.

Botham's key goes into the lock, turns, makes the lock blink green, and makes a mechanical "whirring" sound.

No signs of forced entry.

It's certainly possible she was talking to her partner/lover and didn't notice the lock and Botham's door was already ajar and she strolled in. Which would be consistent with her story.

But this also lends credence to the witnesseses who heard her banging on the door and it seems the defense is making the argument that the door must have been opened for her somehow.
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His neighbor is doing a damn good job breaking down like that.
 
jefferz said:
His neighbor is doing a damn good job breaking down like that.
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When he was discussing the details at first, I thought he wasn't a great witness in terms of credibility--casually dressed, neck tattoo, speaks imprecisely.

But his tears seemed genuine (at least the part I saw, which was toward the end). Even if it doesn't change the facts of the case, it drives home how fucking tragic this all is.
 
HereticBD said:
I don't see how that has anything to do with anything. I guess it's character shit, but overall, what does it have to do with the case? Prosecution seems to be reaching to make her out to be a liar, which is worrying in that they're not confident in the actual.case evidence.

Hey guys, she walked into someone else's apartment and blew him away. Do you really need this side show shit?
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I agree. If the deleted texts were recovered and only showed incrimination in some kind of intra-office sexual affair between her and her partner, then what relevance does that have to the case?

She obviously didn't want her relationship with her partner to blow up and become public, and attempted to hide it.
 
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