Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by melvinj0, Jan 10, 2013.
I think this match up makes sense, winner gets a no 1 contender fight.
both are fringe top ten at best.
Cung isn't that high up on the 185 totem pole yet
Who do you have above them?
Well Costa just beat Boetsch so im not sure how you have Boetsch ranked higher than him. Belcher and Munoz are both coming off loses while Costa is coming off a win over a top 10 MW (top 5 in some people's opinion).
Are for sure ranked under Le and Costa.
The fight certainly makes sense, but not a #1 contender fight for the winner. The winner of that fight would still be at least two fights away imo.
not a chance. phillipou's win over boetsch was not very convincing due to the circumstances (headbutt, eyepoke, boetsch's broken hand). boetsch still has a better resume than phillipou at mw.
lombard's loss was a controversial sd, and he just dismantled palhares. he also had an incredible win streak coming into the ufc, which isn't irrelevant.
munoz lost to the #2 guy in the division, but before that he had a nice streak going with wins over leben, maia, cb, and simpson.
belcher had a nice 4-fight win streak before losing a boring decision to okami, who's a solid top 5.
main point: there's no reason to drop the guys you mentioned significantly just because of a recent hiccup. guys like bisping and okami have suffered some losses recently as well, but they're still considered top ten. why the inconsistency?
If Cung Le beat Costa, the UFC would either give Le a title eliminator fight, if not a immediate shot at Anderson. It's to fun a match-up for the UFC to pass on, and Cung Le is already 40.
just for the record, Boestch NEVER broke his hand. I still am unsure about what caused the pain his corner was referring to between the 1st and the 2nd. Read something about an rib injury he suffered prior to the fight. Dunno, its weird man
Would watch it, will bring an interesting challenge to Costa.
Uhhh, that's not how rankings work.
Costa fucked Boestch up. Period. He won the fight.
Therefore, he's ranked above him.
You got schooled by a white belt. Deal with it.
UFC is for sure going to be set on putting Cung Le in either a title eliminator, or a fight that will lead into a title eliminator.
Guys like Weidman and Lombard are stupidly high in some peoples top 10 lol. Cung and costa for sure deserve to be above both of them..
Lombard lost to Boetsch in perhaps the most anticlimactic UFC debut of all time, then he beat Palhares in a fight where he was supposed to do exactly what he did.
Weidman is a decent role, but lets not get it twisted. His biggest win is over an out of shape returning from injury Mark Munoz, have him fight a legit top 10 and lets see how he fairs.
Costa has some impressive wins as well except his biggest win is Tim Boetsch, a guy who was easily in line for a title shot, that right there warrants him to be above those two.
Cung Le is getting old yet improving! Lost to Wanderlei Silva in a debatable stoppage (I didn't debate it, but alot of people did). Came back to beat the hometown kid Patrick Cote in Montreal, which that alone doesn't get enough credit considering how highly people were talking about Cote when he was returning to the UFC. Then he went on and DEVASTATED Rich Franklin in Macau, alot of people didn't think Cung had much of a shot in the fight and we all saw what happened.
The MW division is so messed up right now, all the guys who deserve huge credit .... never manage to get it, yet the guys who win 1 decent fight get mentioned in the same sentence as Anderson, makes little to no sense.
Cung Le is 1 fight away from a #1 contender fight. Easily.
Cung Le and Costa are not one win away from facing Silva.
If they fight (which would be a good fight, don't get me wrong, I'd like to see it), winner would still have to face someone like a Rockhold or Weidman before they get considered top contender
using that logic, boetsch should be ranked ahead of both lombard and okami, which he isn't.
There's your problem.
Even giving their latest win streak both Cung Le and Costa have better wins than those guys. Rich Franklin is a better win than any of the fighters Belcher or Munoz beat and Patrick Cote is Alan Belchers best win and better than at least two of the guys Monoz beat so theres the argument for Cung Le being ranked above both those guys.
Costa was on a good 4 fight wining streak before beating Boetsch that was arguably just as good as Belchers and Munoz streaks(save the Maia and Cote wins) he just didn't have the names on his record those guys have until he beat Boetsch. Now his streaks at least just as good and it is longer.
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