Cro Cop's 20 year old son is an ABSOLUTE UNIT

[Myrddin Wild]

OK, so you're doubling down on this idiocy, I see.

What commissions exactly did they have to deal with that were "more strict than Pride" exactly?

It's actually funny but it would actually be easier to make the argument that the guys who came from Pride weren't doing enough steroids.

Here was the UFC and Strikeforce champs at the time with your "strict testing":

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And here's a few guys that UFC fanboys say "couldnt hang in the UFC" cause of the "drug testing"

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It actually looks a lot more like the poor Pride guys didn't realize that steroids were still on the menu in the U.S. It sure as fuck wasn't because of "strict drug testing". Ironically, when strict drug testing actually did show up, both Overeem and Lesnar basically instantly failed their first drug tests. What a surprise.

I remember the time this happened.

I remember a lot of talk about whether teh pride coolaid would be missed in these athletes coming over. I remember the difference between Pride regulations & UFC commissions being a factor in that discussion.

To your point many of teh pride guyz did well.

To my point. Something went missing in Cro Cop. Hospital & Cemetary were no where to be seen with either foot.

That's all I felt then & that's all I'm trying to say now. How all that shakes out is really a question I'd like an answer too.

Honestly, pre-USADA, UFC drug testing was a joke. It was just used so they could say "look, we follow all the rules, we are not human cockfighting, we do strict drug testing", a PR campaign. During the entirety of Fedor's reign as Pride HW champ, only 6 guys in the UFC tested positive during that time. The fighters used to know when they would be tested, they were told, & for the longest time, they used to only test title fight & main events. Random testing during USADA made a huge difference

For sure UFC testing "Pre-USADA" waz a joke... but they at least had more roolz to follow than Pride.

I recall there being a very profound discussion about the difference between Pride testing & UFC testing when the UFC bought Pride... & that the Pride guyz would have to clean oop before coming to the UFC.

 

[Phisher]

OK, so you're doubling down on this idiocy, I see.

What commissions exactly did they have to deal with that were "more strict than Pride" exactly?

It's actually funny but it would actually be easier to make the argument that the guys who came from Pride weren't doing enough steroids.

Here was the UFC and Strikeforce champs at the time with your "strict testing":

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And here's a few guys that UFC fanboys say "couldnt hang in the UFC" cause of the "drug testing"

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It actually looks a lot more like the poor Pride guys didn't realize that steroids were still on the menu in the U.S. It sure as fuck wasn't because of "strict drug testing". Ironically, when strict drug testing actually did show up, both Overeem and Lesnar basically instantly failed their first drug tests. What a surprise.

You're just talking out of your ass in this thread.

Overeem blew up like that when he was still primarily fighting in Japan in K1 and Dream. He won the Strikeforce title in 2007 before he was obviously doping and then came back to defend it years later in states that have horrible athletic commissions.


He started to get heavily scrutinized by states with stricter commissions after he was signed by the UFC. That's when he got caught.

 

[Pierced7681]

Was trying to remember if Cro Cop ever tested positive and apparently he did. I guess that slipped my mind.

Hopefully his son is doing it smart if he is and not overdoing it to make his body shutdown natural T production.

But let's dream for a bit - imagine Cro Cop's killer instinct and standup prowess with actual offensive grappling capabilities. Throw in a better chin and that is a SCARY man.

Pretty sure Crocop didn’t test positive but he did self report because he thought he was going to

 

[CuckSERVative]

looks just like his old man haha

 

[Myrddin Wild]

OK, so you're doubling down on this idiocy, I see.

What commissions exactly did they have to deal with that were "more strict than Pride" exactly?

It's actually funny but it would actually be easier to make the argument that the guys who came from Pride weren't doing enough steroids.

Here was the UFC and Strikeforce champs at the time with your "strict testing":

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And here's a few guys that UFC fanboys say "couldnt hang in the UFC" cause of the "drug testing"

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It actually looks a lot more like the poor Pride guys didn't realize that steroids were still on the menu in the U.S. It sure as fuck wasn't because of "strict drug testing". Ironically, when strict drug testing actually did show up, both Overeem and Lesnar basically instantly failed their first drug tests. What a surprise.

I recall being very confused as to why Cro cop didn't translate to teh UFC... & so I used teh search function on Sherdog to find some of my comments from back in teh day, & one of teh main points I was discussing back then was that kickboxing didn't translate well from teh ring to teh cage. Now that this has been brought back to memory, I do recall that being the prevailing "excuse" (for lack of better wordz) for why Cro Cop didn't translate over to teh UFC.

So that's a big factor since cro cop could now be pressed against teh cage, & thinking back, I recall those discussions.

I do also recall what I've been saying as well, about where his devastating power went. I remember very well rooting for him to be teh destroyer he waz in Pride when he shifted over, but cage or ropes aside, something went missing with him in that regard.

 

[Epsteins Guard]

Bringing up Strikefarce is a joke. Overeem, Barnett, Werdum and Bigfoot all fought there and never failed a test. All 4 got busted in the UFC.

Just face it: a bunch of Pride guys like Cro-Cop suddenly went "out of prime" within a year because they moved to an org that tested. We know why.

Why is it a joke? It had "strict American drug testing?

Regardless, Overeem and Lesnar were still the two biggest champs of American MMA promotions and both were the most sauced people in their organizations. They then fought each other in the UFC, completely roided to the gills, and neither of them failed a test for that either.

Then remember years later, were they EXEMPTED Brock Lesnar from the USADA testing pool so he could come back and fight Mark Hunt while still sauced? And then immediately failed the post fight tests?

And then there's that guy who is still pulsing with picograms like he just walked out of Chernobyl. They basically just exempt him from all tests now because he did so many roids hes basically radioactive.

But.. lol.. yeah strict drug testing.

BTW, what happened to USADA?

 

[Epsteins Guard]

I recall being very confused as to why Cro cop didn't translate to teh UFC... & so I used teh search function on Sherdog to find some of my comments from back in teh day, & one of teh main points I was discussing back then was that kickboxing didn't translate well from teh ring to teh cage. Now that this has been brought back to memory, I do recall that being the prevailing "excuse" (for lack of better wordz) for why Cro Cop didn't translate over to teh UFC.

So that's a big factor since cro cop could now be pressed against teh cage, & thinking back, I recall those discussions.

I do also recall what I've been saying as well, about where his devastating power went. I remember very well rooting for him to be teh destroyer he waz in Pride when he shifted over, but cage or ropes aside, something went missing with him in that regard.

His power never went anywhere. His chin did after Gonzaga turned the octagon into a crime scene.

 

[Pechan]

 

[Myrddin Wild]

His power never went anywhere. His chin did after Gonzaga turned the octagon into a crime scene.

I was all up in it during his UFC run. (& prior) The differences in his performances were quite teh talking subject.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

how you going to make a thread about the son of the most famous pair of legs in MMA history and only post an upper body photo? what is this? instagram?

SHOW US THE LEGS OR GTFOH

 

[mkt]

Why is it a joke? It had "strict American drug testing?

Regardless, Overeem and Lesnar were still the two biggest champs of American MMA promotions and both were the most sauced people in their organizations. They then fought each other in the UFC, completely roided to the gills, and neither of them failed a test for that either.

• I already explained why Strikeforce testing was a joke. Evidently, reading comp isn't your thing
• How do you know Lesnar was roided at that time? That was the least jacked I've ever seen him--he was smaller and softer than Overeem. And he didn't leave the U.S. to skip a drug test like Overeem did, who got busted for his very next fight.
• Try dealing with facts and at least a comfortable room temperature IQ before emoting and making stuff up next time.

 

[HwoarangStyle]

Gonzagas son would knock him right the fuck out

 

[Söze Aldo]

It is possible to get that physique and not take steroids at that age. If you have unlimited money, pro chef, pro trainer, high end supplements that aren't steroids. His natural testosterone is probably off the charts at age 20. IF you are 45 looking like that....nah. But 20s and lower 30s, abolutely.
In my 20s I was 6'1" about 200lbs. Upper body of a 220lb er, lower body of a 180 lb er and never took steroids. Just b/c YOU can't look like him doesn't mean it's not possible.

Yes, if he devoted himself full time to weight training and bodybuilding type workout but if he's really training as a kickboxer, that's not the most typical physique for a very young guy in that sport. Most natural young kickboxers/MT are lean and wiry rather than brolic.

 

[Uber_Noober]

Kid Cop

 

[Ube]

how you going to make a thread about the son of the most famous pair of legs in MMA history and only post an upper body photo? what is this? instagram?

SHOW US THE LEGS OR GTFOH

Not gay at all.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Not gay at all.

did you forget where you are?

 

[TheNinja]

Yes, if he devoted himself full time to weight training and bodybuilding type workout but if he's really training as a kickboxer, that's not the most typical physique for a very young guy in that sport. Most natural young kickboxers/MT are lean and wiry rather than brolic.

Very true. I'm just saying that physique is attainable for a young man with supplements diet and tainers plus genetics. I'm not saying he's clean or not clean btw. I have my guesses but dont' want to besmirch a young man without knowing.

 

[Belaya Smert]

Until I see him remove a man soul via liver kick. I dunno man

 

[Khaosan]

Now I feel old.

 

[Epsteins Guard]

• I already explained why Strikeforce testing was a joke. Evidently, reading comp isn't your thing
• How do you know Lesnar was roided at that time? That was the least jacked I've ever seen him--he was smaller and softer than Overeem. And he didn't leave the U.S. to skip a drug test like Overeem did, who got busted for his very next fight.
• Try dealing with facts and at least a comfortable room temperature IQ before emoting and making stuff up next time.

You're criticizing my intelligence and then saying Brock Lesnar was clean in the same sentence.

That's some good ole fashioned cousin-fucking American autism right there. I bet your family reunions are lit.