Cro Cop's 20 year old son is an ABSOLUTE UNIT

It is possible to get that physique and not take steroids at that age. If you have unlimited money, pro chef, pro trainer, high end supplements that aren't steroids. His natural testosterone is probably off the charts at age 20. IF you are 45 looking like that....nah. But 20s and lower 30s, abolutely.
In my 20s I was 6'1" about 200lbs. Upper body of a 220lb er, lower body of a 180 lb er :) and never took steroids. Just b/c YOU can't look like him doesn't mean it's not possible.
 
Epsteins Guard said:
Well considering Crocop joined the UFC in 2009, fought his last fight for the UFC in 2015, and USADA came into the UFC in 2015.... unless he had a time machine, you're just fucking retarded.
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lol!!! Great calling me out on that. I'm well on top of USADA'z timeline, but didn't put that together when I commented. You're right that most of CroCop's UFC run waz pre-usada, but they still had to deal with commissions more strict than Pride. I think that's the difference. If not that then wtf happened?

Hospital & Cemetary for his right & left kicks... were not even close to that once he started fighting in teh UFC. He waz a different fighter. More "mortal."

I'm an OG fan since UFC began, & my first live event I attended waz UFC 14, (Mark Kerr won teh tournament with 2 fights in one night & Maurice Smith beat a gassed Coleman off his back in teh main.) (in teh equivalent of a high school gym ffs... lol) so I've been watching for a long time.

Anywayz... WTF went missing wit Cro Cop? I'd have to say that in the absence of USADA... there were more restrictions from teh local regulationz teh UFC put on their shows in... compared to Pride that literally served up teh blue cool-aid prior to matchez... & so Cro Cop had to dial it down.

That's the only theory I got. Please explain to me where his power went during his UFC run if I have it wrong!!!
I mean, it's very clear that SOMETHING happened.
 
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Myrddin Wild said:
lol!!! Great calling me out on that. I'm well on top of USADA'z timeline, but didn't put that together when I commented. You're right that most of CroCop's UFC run waz pre-usada, but they still had to deal with commissions more strict than Pride. I think that's the difference. If not that then wtf happened?

Hospital & Cemetary for his right & left kicks... were not even close to that once he started fighting in teh UFC. He waz a different fighter. More "mortal."

I'm an OG fan since UFC began, & my first live event I attended waz UFC 14, (Mark Kerr won teh tournament with 2 fights in one night & Maurice Smith beat a gassed Coleman off his back in teh main.) (in teh equivalent of a high school gym ffs... lol) so I've been watching for a long time.

Anywayz... WTF went missing wit Cro Cop? I'd have to say that in the absence of USADA... there were more restrictions from teh local regulationz teh UFC put on their shows in... compared to Pride that literally served up teh blue cool-aid prior to matchez... & so Cro Cop had to dial it down.

That's the only theory I got. Please explain to me where his power went during his UFC run if I have it wrong!!!
I mean, it's very clear that SOMETHING happened.
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OK, so you're doubling down on this idiocy, I see.

What commissions exactly did they have to deal with that were "more strict than Pride" exactly?

It's actually funny but it would actually be easier to make the argument that the guys who came from Pride weren't doing enough steroids.

Here was the UFC and Strikeforce champs at the time with your "strict testing":

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And here's a few guys that UFC fanboys say "couldnt hang in the UFC" cause of the "drug testing"

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It actually looks a lot more like the poor Pride guys didn't realize that steroids were still on the menu in the U.S. It sure as fuck wasn't because of "strict drug testing". Ironically, when strict drug testing actually did show up, both Overeem and Lesnar basically instantly failed their first drug tests. What a surprise.
 

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Broke into daddy's Pride-era PED stash. Naughty, naughty, junior!
 
Epsteins Guard said:
OK, so you're doubling down on this idiocy, I see.

What commissions exactly did they have to deal with that were "more strict than Pride" exactly?

It's actually funny but it would actually be easier to make the argument that the guys who came from Pride weren't doing enough steroids.

Here was the UFC and Strikeforce champs at the time with your "strict testing":

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And here's a few guys that UFC fanboys say "couldnt hang in the UFC" cause of the "drug testing"

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It actually looks a lot more like the poor Pride guys didn't realize that steroids were still on the menu in the U.S. It sure as fuck wasn't because of "strict drug testing". Ironically, when strict drug testing actually did show up, both Overeem and Lesnar basically instantly failed their first drug tests. What a surprise.
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Bringing up Strikefarce is a joke. Overeem, Barnett, Werdum and Bigfoot all fought there and never failed a test. All 4 got busted in the UFC.

Just face it: a bunch of Pride guys like Cro-Cop suddenly went "out of prime" within a year because they moved to an org that tested. We know why.
 
Myrddin Wild said:
lol!!! Great calling me out on that. I'm well on top of USADA'z timeline, but didn't put that together when I commented. You're right that most of CroCop's UFC run waz pre-usada, but they still had to deal with commissions more strict than Pride. I think that's the difference. If not that then wtf happened?

Hospital & Cemetary for his right & left kicks... were not even close to that once he started fighting in teh UFC. He waz a different fighter. More "mortal."

I'm an OG fan since UFC began, & my first live event I attended waz UFC 14, (Mark Kerr won teh tournament with 2 fights in one night & Maurice Smith beat a gassed Coleman off his back in teh main.) (in teh equivalent of a high school gym ffs... lol) so I've been watching for a long time.

Anywayz... WTF went missing wit Cro Cop? I'd have to say that in the absence of USADA... there were more restrictions from teh local regulationz teh UFC put on their shows in... compared to Pride that literally served up teh blue cool-aid prior to matchez... & so Cro Cop had to dial it down.

That's the only theory I got. Please explain to me where his power went during his UFC run if I have it wrong!!!
I mean, it's very clear that SOMETHING happened.
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Honestly, pre-USADA, UFC drug testing was a joke. It was just used so they could say "look, we follow all the rules, we are not human cockfighting, we do strict drug testing", a PR campaign. During the entirety of Fedor's reign as Pride HW champ, only 6 guys in the UFC tested positive during that time. The fighters used to know when they would be tested, they were told, & for the longest time, they used to only test title fight & main events. Random testing during USADA made a huge difference
 
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Honestly, pre-USADA, UFC drug testing was a joke. It was just used so they could say "look, we follow all the rules, we are not human cockfighting, we do strict drug testing", a PR campaign. During the entirety of Fedor's reign as Pride HW champ, only 6 guys in the UFC tested positive during that time. The fighters used to know when they would be tested, they were told, & for the longest time, they used to only test title fight & main events. Random testing during USADA made a huge difference
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Random testing by USADA taught me that there is an entire little space under the ring you can hide under like the undertaker if need be!
 
I'm pretty sure it's just the way hes posing but he looks like a dwarf. I think its the stubby arms
 
fractal said:
You're right. He had one fight after USADA came into effect. I hope you're not basing your assessment of his performance on that single fight.
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He's probably basing it on the fact that Cro Cop admitted to using HGH after getting randomly tested and got a two year USADA suspension and then continued to look even more jacked while he fought overseas.

It's amazing how fucking selective MMA fans are when it comes to outrage over doping.

This fanbase only pretends to care when they don't like whichever fighter fails a test.
 
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