Craziest Title Eliminator?

[drunkenfistmma]

What’s a UFC title eliminator that would have been insane had the other fighter won

If Tai Tuivasa knocked out Gane; Jones vs Tai???

If Brunson choked out Cannonier would we have gotten the Izzy Rematch?

If Nate beat Leon at UFC 263 would he have fought Usman for the belt?

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Michelle Waterson beating Joanna and fighting Zhang after. Commentary and analysts were already hyping her up while she was obviously losing.

 

[JBJ was here]

If Gane had beaten Volkov and gone on to face Aspinall . . .

 

[Get To Da Choppa]

What’s a UFC title eliminator that would have been insane had the other fighter won

If Tai Tuivasa knocked out Gane; Jones vs Tai???

If Brunson choked out Cannonier would we have gotten the Izzy Rematch?

If Nate beat Leon at UFC 263 would he have fought Usman for the belt?

If Chris Lyttle didn't succumb by SD to the foot stomps of Matt Serra at the final of TUF The Comebacks, and went on to fight GSP, then history would've been quite different.

Lyttle likely would've lost to GSP, but if GSP never had that humbling loss to Serra how would his career play out? Would he have stayed undefeated, or lose by KO as he got older as he still had that aggressive "Rush" style, instead of the cerebral but conservative approach that he adopted?

 

[RockyLockridge]

If romero beat costa, then romero got injured and costa filled in

 

[Lou Duva]

If the Reem didn’t get his head blowed off by ngannou, he definitely could’ve won the title his next fight vs stipe instead of a losing a decision like Francis did

 

[Lou Duva]

If cro cop didn’t get brutally KOd with his own signature LHK by Gonzaga , then he would’ve gone on to LHK Randy and win ufc gold his next fight

 

[dipstickjimmy]

What’s a UFC title eliminator that would have been insane had the other fighter won

If Tai Tuivasa knocked out Gane; Jones vs Tai???

If Brunson choked out Cannonier would we have gotten the Izzy Rematch?

If Nate beat Leon at UFC 263 would he have fought Usman for the belt?

None of those were "Title Eliminators". A title eliminator isn't the same thing as fighter X fought this person before getting his title shot. Conor vs Siver wasn't a title eliminator, it was a Showcase fight. Had Siver won he was not in line for a title shot.

Most Shocking Title Eliminator would be the UFC actually having a legit title eliminator.

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

most shocking title eliminators are those guys who lost title eliminator fight and still fought for the belt after

 

[drunkenfistmma]

None of those were "Title Eliminators". A title eliminator isn't the same thing as fighter X fought this person before getting his title shot. Conor vs Siver wasn't a title eliminator, it was a Showcase fight. Had Siver won he was not in line for a title shot.

Most Shocking Title Eliminator would be the UFC actually having a legit title eliminator.

Conor fought for an interim title after that anyway? Of course There were no stakes in that fight

If Tai beats Gane he probably does fight Jones. He was ranked 3rd, Gane was number 1 and Aspinall was no where near the title convo.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Conor fought for an interim title after that anyway? Of course There were no stakes in that fight

If Tai beats Gane he probably does fight Jones. He was ranked 3rd, Gane was number 1 and Aspinall was no where near the title convo.

Conor didn't just fight for an Interim. He was booked for the title and Aldo pulled out. The point being a Title Eliminator is only accurate when the UFC books it with the winner getting a title shot. The winner regardless of which one comes out on top. That was not the case in any of those fights.

 

[Sticko]

None of those were "Title Eliminators". A title eliminator isn't the same thing as fighter X fought this person before getting his title shot. Conor vs Siver wasn't a title eliminator, it was a Showcase fight. Had Siver won he was not in line for a title shot.

Most Shocking Title Eliminator would be the UFC actually having a legit title eliminator.

Then by that logic title eliminators don't really exist because we can't say for certain that the loser would have gotten a title shot with a win.

If Tai Tuivasa had finished Gane instead of getting finished, he would have been 15-3, riding a 6-win streak of all KO/TKOs, with stoppages of Gane and Derrick Lewis.

For Gane the Tuivasa fight was 1 fight after he lost his undisputed title shot against Ngannou and 2 fights after he won an interim belt against Lewis. Tuivasa could have easily gotten a TS off a win.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Then by that logic title eliminators don't really exist because we can't say for certain that the loser would have gotten a title shot with a win.

Not sure if you are new but that's the point. The UFC used to have Official Title Eliminators. Literally a title shot was on the line for the winner. For Example Bisping lost a title eliminator to Hendo at UFC 100 and also lost one to Chael Sonnen. The winner was getting a shot no matter who it was.



The UFC no longer does this because they want to make the individual fights they want regardless of merit. Marlon Moraes was 22-5-1 and fought Cejudo for the vacant BW title which he lost. His next fight was against Aldo in Aldo's BW debut. Good matchmaking to give Aldo a credible win and push him towards a title shot with the victory. Aldo lost yet he was still booked for a title fight with Cejudo. He pulled out and Cruz replaced him. When Henry retired Aldo, who still had not won a fight at BW and was coming off a loss to Moraes was booked into a title fight at BW for the vacant title against Petr Yan. Booked twice for a title shot coming off the same loss. Can't do that if you make an official title eliminator.

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

Shogun beats Forrest and we get Rampage v Shogun II in the Octagon for the belt.

 

[Sticko]

Not sure if you are new but that's the point. The UFC used to have Official Title Eliminators. Literally a title shot was on the line for the winner. For Example Bisping lost a title eliminator to Hendo at UFC 100 and also lost one to Chael Sonnen. The winner was getting a shot no matter who it was.

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The UFC no longer does this because they want to make the individual fights they want regardless of merit. Marlon Moraes was 22-5-1 and fought Cejudo for the vacant BW title which he lost. His next fight was against Aldo in Aldo's BW debut. Good matchmaking to give Aldo a credible win and push him towards a title shot with the victory. Aldo lost yet he was still booked for a title fight with Cejudo. He pulled out and Cruz replaced him. When Henry retired Aldo, who still had not won a fight at BW and was coming off a loss to Moraes was booked into a title fight at BW for the vacant title against Petr Yan. Booked twice for a title shot coming off the same loss. Can't do that if you make an official title eliminator.

Fair point, I didn't realize they were officially a thing at that point in time.

As I recall, the Aldo vs Moraes decision was controversial and Dana booked Aldo as if he'd won because he personally felt that Aldo had won even though he officially lost.

 

[markys00]

no such thing in the ufc.

 

[markys00]

Not sure if you are new but that's the point. The UFC used to have Official Title Eliminators. Literally a title shot was on the line for the winner. For Example Bisping lost a title eliminator to Hendo at UFC 100 and also lost one to Chael Sonnen. The winner was getting a shot no matter who it was.

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The UFC no longer does this because they want to make the individual fights they want regardless of merit. Marlon Moraes was 22-5-1 and fought Cejudo for the vacant BW title which he lost. His next fight was against Aldo in Aldo's BW debut. Good matchmaking to give Aldo a credible win and push him towards a title shot with the victory. Aldo lost yet he was still booked for a title fight with Cejudo. He pulled out and Cruz replaced him. When Henry retired Aldo, who still had not won a fight at BW and was coming off a loss to Moraes was booked into a title fight at BW for the vacant title against Petr Yan. Booked twice for a title shot coming off the same loss. Can't do that if you make an official title eliminator.

no. this is false. just cause it says it on wiki, doesnt mean shit. there is no source for it. they had maybe a handful when it comes to tournaments

 

[dipstickjimmy]

no. this is false. just cause it says it on wiki, doesnt mean shit. there is no source for it. they had maybe a handful when it comes to tournaments

No you are dumb. The UFC used to book official title eliminators. just because you are a dumb fuck doesn't make it untrue.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Fair point, I didn't realize they were officially a thing at that point in time.

As I recall, the Aldo vs Moraes decision was controversial and Dana booked Aldo as if he'd won because he personally felt that Aldo had won even though he officially lost.

That is true and yet its a problem. Imagine if the commissioner of the MLB just booked the Yankees to face the Dodgers in the world series because he liked them better than the Blue Jays?

The UFC grew to be the top MMA org based on its titles being percieved as the best in the world because the best fought the best. If the UFC booked The Pope vs King Charles it would be watched by more people than any fight they can book. Does that mean its top level MMA? If they were WWs for example and they just made it for the WW title does that make the winner the best WW?

 

[EndlessCritic]

Not sure if you are new but that's the point. The UFC used to have Official Title Eliminators. Literally a title shot was on the line for the winner. For Example Bisping lost a title eliminator to Hendo at UFC 100 and also lost one to Chael Sonnen. The winner was getting a shot no matter who it was.

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The UFC no longer does this because they want to make the individual fights they want regardless of merit. Marlon Moraes was 22-5-1 and fought Cejudo for the vacant BW title which he lost. His next fight was against Aldo in Aldo's BW debut. Good matchmaking to give Aldo a credible win and push him towards a title shot with the victory. Aldo lost yet he was still booked for a title fight with Cejudo. He pulled out and Cruz replaced him. When Henry retired Aldo, who still had not won a fight at BW and was coming off a loss to Moraes was booked into a title fight at BW for the vacant title against Petr Yan. Booked twice for a title shot coming off the same loss. Can't do that if you make an official title eliminator.

Those title eliminators were like BMF belts: They didn't mean shit.

Despite Hendo beating Bisping in a supposed title eliminator, Hendo proceeded to not fight for the title, and instead left the UFC to go to Strikeforce.

By further example, the UFC formally announced that the winner of Shogun vs Vera in 2012 would get a title shot. In fact, they never gave Shogun his promised title shot after beating Vera.

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