Crack Dealer Freed Early Under Obama Plan Murders Woman, 2 Kids

[glennrod]

Why not think of ways to reduce recidivism rates instead of locking people away for stupid amounts of time in an environment that might as well be the goddamn Thunderdome for all the good it does to people.

So what's your solution..allow even more dangerous people to go free?. Granted, the beast makes people worse..but still, what do you propose?

 

[Abezal]

Why not think of ways to reduce recidivism rates instead of locking people away for stupid amounts of time in an environment that might as well be the goddamn Thunderdome for all the good it does to people.

yahh yahh or death penalty, rid the problem right there and there.

 

[glennrod]

yahh yahh or death penalty, rid the problem right there and there.

Or a tier system of prison...like, how people who didn't pay their bills, shouldn't be in there with gang bangers and rapists...basically, the worse the crime that you commit, the worse your prison life will be..

 

[K1levelgrappler]

I wonder if the family of the victims feel that it's "wingnut outrage" too?. Again, your attitude, coupled with your fanboyism is utterly disgusting

I wonder how the family of the victims feels about shameless dirtbags trying to make political hay over the deaths of their loved ones? Maybe you can send the family a bottle of your Obama tears.

 

[El Chimpo]

Why not think of ways to reduce recidivism rates instead of locking people away for stupid amounts of time in an environment that might as well be the goddamn Thunderdome for all the good it does to people.

private prisons for profit will never survive if that happens... gotta keep the money coming in

 

[glennrod]

I wonder how the family of the victims feels about shameless dirtbags trying to make political hay over the deaths of their loved ones? Maybe you can send the family a bottle of your Obama tears.

Yeah, you're right..the family of the victims should just not say anything at all...afterall, despite losing a family member, they wouldn't want to be called a "wingnut"..besides, Obama, by releasing dangerous criminals who actually DO kill upon receiving their gift of clemency are probably victims of racism and so therefore it's the oppressive white mans fault..

 

[glennrod]

private prisons for profit will never survive if that happens... gotta keep the money coming in

Yep, we should let crack dealers, murderers, rapists and all kinds of filth walk scott free..no punishments for anyone, well..not black criminals anyway.

 

[El Chimpo]

Yep, we should let crack dealers, murderers, rapists and all kinds of filth walk scott free..no punishments for anyone, well..not black criminals anyway.

where did i say anything about that? lol

and do you deny that there is no such thing as for profit prisons?



prisons should be more than just strictly punishment...there has to be some sort of reform going on

 

[Falsedawn]

So what's your solution..allow even more dangerous people to go free?. Granted, the beast makes people worse..but still, what do you propose?

I'm saying if you send people to jail for stupid amounts of time so they can learn how to be real criminals, then you can't honestly hope that literally everything will go right when it's all said and done. He was getting out in 5 years anyway. So instead of reading about this and getting outraged now, it would have been down the road with you guys bitching at Hillary for letting him get out of jail.

You goofs see this as a result of OBUMMER letting them dang criminals out of prison, I see this as a result of our absolutely horrendous prison system and just dreadful recidivism rates. Maybe you try to rehabilitate people instead of going full retard and locking them away like animals.

Violent crimes are another thing entirely. Put one in this dude's dome and let's actually try and fix shit for once.

 

[Skip Reming]

Did you keep score under other presidents. How to Bush Clinton and Reagan stack up ? Whos winning ?

the woman and 2 kids who were murdered won obviously

I'll just leave this here.

Saw it already. Did he have anything to say about this debacle the thread is on? Oh, wait, Hollywood does not attack Obama because to do so would be obviously racist ffs.

PS - Crack is a very deadly drug. Selling it is basically attempted murder for each count.
A FAR cry away from some dude selling a brick of weed.

Crack dealers would kill you for their own pockets via a gun or via a pipe.

/powerbottomedbyTRUTH

 

[K1levelgrappler]

Yeah, you're right..the family of the victims should just not say anything at all...afterall, despite losing a family member, they wouldn't want to be called a "wingnut"..besides, Obama, by releasing dangerous criminals who actually DO kill upon receiving their gift of clemency are probably victims of racism and so therefore it's the oppressive white mans fault..

Like you or the dipshit OP give a rats ass about the family or anything other than crying about Obama.

Anyways I still support reducing sentences for drug offenders. I understand that you're a giant baby and you formulate all your beliefs based on kneejerk reactions to horrible events such as this but not all of us do.

 

[glennrod]

where did i say anything about that? lol

and do you deny that there is no such thing as for profit prisons?



prisons should be more than just strictly punishment...there has to be some sort of reform going on

Oh I agree, I think that prisons can, and should be used to help people improve their lives...but I also believe that there are some people in there, some animals, who should never be released and should be made to live through hell. By the way, I'm not even saying that this guy should have never of been let out, just reinforcing my earlier point about tiers for crimes committed. Clearly this guy should not have been released early, and at the same time, I am SURE that there probably were/are people in there that probably should be given another chance...but without the political influence, without all the bullshit. When you say "prison for profit", you are alluding to a non existent reality, that says that there is a great injustice with a piece of SHIT like this guy being behind bars....ironically enough, if they would have kept this piece of SHIT locked away forgood, then lives could have been saved. I hope you understand my point

 

[TheComebackKid]

Actually, you could thank Obama for this..he is responsible. And the same would go for ANY president that let a dangerous offender go free, only to kill

Unless there was some indication that this guy was capable to killing someone I don't think you can jump all over Obama for this. Most crack dealers are not capable of killing a woman and her kids for the hell of it. Most don't have the heart to kill a rival dealer or gang member let along innocent women and children.

Unless you are advocating lifetime sentences for non-violent offenders I don't see your beef with Obama here.

 

[glennrod]

Like you or the dipshit OP give a rats ass about the family or anything other than crying about Obama.

Anyways I still support reducing sentences for drug offenders. I understand that you're a giant baby and you formulate all your beliefs based on kneejerk reactions to horrible events such as this but not all of us do.

Fuck you..you have no idea how much compassion I have, you are only sticking your two cents in because Obama is rightfully being criticized..you're nothing but a silly little partisan, heartless hack. And I would bet both of my testicles that if president Romney did this, you would be frothing at the mouth with rage...even more so if it was a white man who done it you hateful little cuck

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Why not think of ways to reduce recidivism rates instead of locking people away for stupid amounts of time in an environment that might as well be the goddamn Thunderdome for all the good it does to people.

Oh the article mentioned money spent to help released inmates reintagrate, its safe to say they didn't feel it was money well spent

The article states

"As if it weren’t bad enough that the administration is rewarding thousands of criminals with get-out-of-jail cards, huge amounts of taxpayer dollars are being spent on programs to help them find housing and jobs. In the aftermath of the mass release of federal prisoners Judicial Watch reported on two “re-entry” programs to ease the transition from jail. One received $1.7 million and ordered public housing facilities not to reject tenants with criminal records. The other allocated $20 million to the Department of Labor (DOL) to help ex-cons find work and thus end the “cycle of poverty, criminality and incarceration.”

 

[MicroBrew]

So what's your solution..allow even more dangerous people to go free?. Granted, the beast makes people worse..but still, what do you propose?

Releasing non violent drug offenders or better yet not arresting them in the 1st place is the right idea.

With any situation such as this there is always going to be some cases that break the law, that does not mean the law is bad, just as mass shooters using guns does not mean law abiding citizens should relinquish the right to own firearms.

 

[glennrod]

Unless there was some indication that this guy was capable to killing someone I don't think you can jump all over Obama for this. Most crack dealers are not capable of killing a woman and her kids for the hell of it. Most don't have the heart to kill a rival dealer or gang member let along innocent women and children.

Unless you are advocating lifetime sentences for non-violent offenders I don't see your beef with Obama here.

Someone give this man a like.."most crack dealers are not capable (wtf) of killing a woman and a child for "the hell of it"...let me tell you something, Crack dealers are far more likely to kill a woman and children than a "non" crack dealer would...drugs and street juice are powerful things

 

[MicroBrew]

That's fucked, but hes Osamas people so no biggie.

Should be given death sentence now. the chair.

So was Huckabee also releasing one of his peeps when he released Maurice Clemmons , who had a record of violent crime, and after being granted clemency by Gov. Huckabee he went on to kill 4 LEOs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/29/multiple-police-officers-_n_373119.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Clemmons

 

[glennrod]

I'm saying if you send people to jail for stupid amounts of time so they can learn how to be real criminals, then you can't honestly hope that literally everything will go right when it's all said and done. He was getting out in 5 years anyway. So instead of reading about this and getting outraged now, it would have been down the road with you guys bitching at Hillary for letting him get out of jail.

You goofs see this as a result of OBUMMER letting them dang criminals out of prison, I see this as a result of our absolutely horrendous prison system and just dreadful recidivism rates. Maybe you try to rehabilitate people instead of going full retard and locking them away like animals.

Violent crimes are another thing entirely. Put one in this dude's dome and let's actually try and fix shit for once.

I'm bang splat in the middle of the road on this post. I know you are right and not "100% correct" at the same time..i don't know what to say to this if I'm honest. Regardless, you can take Obama's name right out of it..because it wouldn't matter who was the president...if they did this, and the results were the same, I would be equally as outraged. This is a horrible story to hear about...call it human nature, political pandering..whatever you want to call it, it's a tragedy that (in hindsight) should have never happened

 

[Gutter Chris]

the woman and 2 kids who were murdered won obviously

Thats not the answer to the question I asked du.

No one had a crystal ball here who was to know he would do that.

Its no secret that the war on drugs is a failure and is going to need some work. Its piss awful that some nut job got a second chance and blew it but that doesnt mean that prison reform isnt worth looking into no ? It costs a ton the recidivism rate is high and we really cant keep going down this road and ever expect to make improvements in our society.


This dudes a shithead and deserves to go back for life but that doesnt mean that everyone in jail belongs there