International Covid-19 Breaking News v17: Russian PM infected

[Squall Leonhart]

Past 5-6 days my state has had 230-330 new cases. It seems to have plateaued here.

 

[JDragon]

So the world is only at 1200 dead at the moment....

Are we turning a corner here?

And several states will be easing restrictions in a couple weeks. Will Covid 19 hit us hard for the foreseeable future?

Had a call with our South African regional leader today
@PrinceOfPain

She said she is afraid things will get much much worse once they exit the lockdown as there are such great wealth disparities and they enter winter now.

 

[MusterX]

Reports are coming in and they are quickly being shut down by the chinese censors. Apparently its around a month delay from initial infection when patients react

/s

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Had a call with our South African regional leader today
@PrinceOfPain

She said she is afraid things will get much much worse once they exit the lockdown as there are such great wealth disparities and they enter winter now.

Yep. Winter's actually rolling in a little early this year. Lockdown was extended until the end of next week, and I have little doubt that the worst is still spread out ahead of us. I keep checking the numbers (currently 3158 confirmed infections, 54 dead) hoping that they'll stay reasonable, but I am worried.

I'll likely be fine, but there are a lot of people who I suspect won't be.
poverty + pestilence. Not a great combination.

 

[Get To Da Choppa]

So an Antibody test of 200 just outside of Boston showed 32% had the virus. Compared to a 2% reported rate.

Just imagine how many have had it NYC. Are we approaching herd immunity even with these lockdowns?

If you use a factor of 25, which is half of the low end of the estimate shown in this study, and New York has 240k cases, that's six million already exposed to the virus. NYC has a population of 8.4 million, so that's 71 percent, which is at or close to herd immunity rate, depending on the R nought.

The main point of the stay at home measures is to alleviate the burden on the healthcare system. It is impractical to think that we can starve this virus out with such a long incubation period and asymptomatic spread. I've said it for a long time, and more posters are saying it, what we need to do is protect the elderly and the vulnerable, do more testing so as to ensure that that interact with the elderly and people with underlying conditions aren't infected and infect them, and fast track more treatment options, including recombinant antibody, until a viable vaccine is ready in a year.

 

[JDragon]

Yep. Winter's actually rolling in a little early this year. Lockdown was extended until the end of next week, and I have little doubt that the worst is still spread out ahead of us. I keep checking the numbers (currently 3158 confirmed infections, 54 dead) hoping that they'll stay reasonable, but I am worried.

I'll likely be fine, but there are a lot of people who I suspect won't be.
poverty + pestilence. Not a great combination.

She specifically voiced the expectation that the HIV + Covid-19 combination would spell doom.

 

[LuchaBear]

Rich people bad.
Why shouldn't the rich be getting assistance as well?

"As well" is you grasping at straws... What's more important? The rich maybe not being able to go on a long ass vacation when this is all over, or the working class and poor who might starve or not be able to pay off their medical bills for the rest of their lives?

Years of Fox news has you more worried about the people who don't need as much worrying than the ones that do. Get your blinders off.

 

[Long Branch]

I really wish I had bought a big ass gasmask before all of this. I sooo want to walk around with a gasmask like an idiot.

Why do you think people that wear CBRN masks are idiots? Sounds like you're just upset that you don't have one.

These people are providing themselves and others with maximum safety.

 

[BlacknBlue]

"As well" is you grasping at straws... What's more important? The rich maybe not being able to go on a long ass vacation when this is all over, or the working class and poor who might starve or not be able to pay off their medical bills for the rest of their lives?

Years of Fox news has you more worried about the people who don't need as much worrying than the ones that do. Get your blinders off.

Do you really think that because of the lock-downs the working class and poor might starve?

 

[Joe]

Jesus is my vaccine

 

[Long Branch]

 

[SBJJ]

Do you really think that because of the lock-downs the working class and poor might starve?

Maybe not starve. But not be able to by food.

Will really suck standing in line for 3 hours to get your bread and soup

 

[SBJJ]

If you use a factor of 25, which is half of the low end of the estimate shown in this study, and New York has 240k cases, that's six million already exposed to the virus. NYC has a population of 8.4 million, so that's 71 percent, which is at or close to herd immunity rate, depending on the R nought.

The main point of the stay at home measures is to alleviate the burden on the healthcare system. It is impractical to think that we can starve this virus out with such a long incubation period and asymptomatic spread. I've said it for a long time, and more posters are saying it, what we need to do is protect the elderly and the vulnerable, do more testing so as to ensure that that interact with the elderly and people with underlying conditions aren't infected and infect them, and fast track more treatment options, including recombinant antibody, until a viable vaccine is ready in a year.

Yep. That should be the goal.

And yes, some people from both sides are coming to that conclusion. Flu Bros and Shut everything down til vaccine bros

 

[Sano]

Last week, Sanquin (bloodbank) published a study among 4,000 donors, and they found 3% of them had antibodies in their blood. These results are, actually, about 4 weeks old; the average date of donation of the blood, was around March 20th. If I input that number into the (confirmed) doubling dates, it gets me to about my estimate of, currently, ~3,4 million infections in The Netherlands.
March 20 3% 522000
March 26 6% 1044000
April 7 12% 2088000

For today, I'm estimating 3372069, or 19,38% of the total population.

Haha that's a cheeky way of getting to some figures that might very well be close to accurate. I like it!

 

[irish_thug]

What's your job?

Zombie hunter

 

[Gomi1977]

Haha that's a cheeky way of getting to some figures that might very well be close to accurate. I like it!

Again, it's all we have! But it does work out pretty much exactly to the numbers I came up with earlier. We know when the numbers doubled, and we now have a somewhat certain number of infections per March 21st. Based on all this, I'm estimating the numbers will have doubled again (from April 7th) by ~May 4-7. Which would mean well over 5 million infections, or almost 30% of the population.

One edit though: the bloodsamples aren't from March 21st; they were from donors who had had no symptoms at all, or who had been symptom free since at least March 21st.

 

[Seano]

"As well" is you grasping at straws... What's more important? The rich maybe not being able to go on a long ass vacation when this is all over, or the working class and poor who might starve or not be able to pay off their medical bills for the rest of their lives?

Years of Fox news has you more worried about the people who don't need as much worrying than the ones that do. Get your blinders off.

lol at this sheep response.
The rich are the people who employ the masses, the people who make the economy. The people who own the factories and other big businesses that are being hurt by this pandemic. We need for people to actually have a place to return to work when this is over.

 

[Seano]

If you use a factor of 25, which is half of the low end of the estimate shown in this study, and New York has 240k cases, that's six million already exposed to the virus. NYC has a population of 8.4 million, so that's 71 percent, which is at or close to herd immunity rate, depending on the R nought.

The main point of the stay at home measures is to alleviate the burden on the healthcare system. It is impractical to think that we can starve this virus out with such a long incubation period and asymptomatic spread. I've said it for a long time, and more posters are saying it, what we need to do is protect the elderly and the vulnerable, do more testing so as to ensure that that interact with the elderly and people with underlying conditions aren't infected and infect them, and fast track more treatment options, including recombinant antibody, until a viable vaccine is ready in a year.

I agree with a lot of this but how do we protect the elderly and sick? In the midst of a shutdown, its nursing homes and assisted living facilities that are being hit especially hard.

 

[LuchaBear]

Do you really think that because of the lock-downs the working class and poor might starve?

When you have many living paycheck to paycheck and a government that gets on it's knees for corporations, yes I do. That cheque given out and the non news of the next one is absurd compared to what every other major Western country has done. Add the fact that millions have lost their jobs, their "such great" employment medical insurance, ya it's these people who need the most focus from the government right now.

 

[SBJJ]

I agree with a lot of this but how do we protect the elderly and sick? In the midst of a shutdown, its nursing homes and assisted living facilities that are being hit especially hard.

Have the CDC take over all nursing homes.

I say do whatever it takes to protect the elderly and compromised. And that enables alot of the country to open up.