Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread

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Hadron90 said:
I can post the first chart again if you want to be embarrassed again. Is that what you are asking for?
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But you cant refute that the 'best health care system in the world" is going to be leading in deaths? As I stated we had more time and resources to prepare and we failed. The US is cutting back on testing to improve our stat lines. If we can show our numbers are going down instead of increasing, we can claim things are improving. Quality leadership am right?
 
Lowmanproblems said:
But you cant refute that the 'best health care system in the world" is going to be leading in deaths?
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Just hang on to this question right now. I know schools are closed right now, so I won't be hard on you. But I'm sure they'll start back in the fall. In probably 7th or 8th grade your math class will do a segment on statistics. You will be able to answer the question of why a country with a large population, has higher total numbers than countries with smaller populations then.

As I stated we had more time and resources to prepare and we failed. The US is cutting back on testing to improve our stat lines.
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Cutting testing would make our case fatality increase, not decrease. And as I have shown you already, we have a lower case fatality rate than the world, europe, and asian averages.
 
Hadron90 said:
Just hang on to this question right now. I know schools are closed right now, so I won't be hard on you. But I'm sure they'll start back in the fall. In probably 7th or 8th grade your math class will do a segment on statistics. You will be able to answer the question of why a country with a large population, has higher total numbers than countries with smaller populations then.
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This is all nonsense, coming from a poster that is unable to maintain from getting banned.
Hadron90 said:
Cutting testing would make our case fatality increase, not decrease. And as I have shown you already, we have a lower case fatality rate than the world, europe, and asian averages.
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Cutting test to so that we can reopen the economy. If we are not testing people that are dying, the death total will artificially drop the death rate of the virus. I guess I need to explain to you what your first graph showed us. We are on pace to achieve the same numbers or greater than the rest of the world. Yet we are talking about reopening the whole country, before we actually have a hold on this pandemic.

We have a leader that is more concerned about boosting the stockmarket, than the lives of the populace of this country. We can clearly see that the death to recovered rate has grown constantly. We are currently at 21% death vs recovery rate world wide. We have seen exponential growth of infected in this country. Your graph shows that America had warning, yet failed to act. We know that there were reports from our own government about the potential of a pandemic that were ignored as early as November.

You are too busy trying to spread bullshit right wing talking points, to objectively look at your own graphs and understand what they say. We are in pace to be the hardest hit country in the world. Reopening the economy before we actually have this under control will see another huge spike in cases. We have already covered that our health care system is completely unable to accommodate a full on pandemic across this country.
 
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Trump to press: "Should we keep this (press conf) going? What do you think?"

Reporter: "You're the President."

This would kill on Comedy Central.
 
Lowmanproblems said:
This is all nonsense, coming from a poster that is unable to maintain from getting banned.


Cutting test to so that we can reopen the economy.
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But we aren't. Here are the number of tests per day that we are doing. Its a bit zig-zaggy, but there is a clear upward trend.
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If we are not testing people that are dying, the death total will artificially drop the death rate of the virus. I guess I need to explain to you what your first graph showed us. We are on pace to achieve the same numbers or greater than the rest of the world. Yet we are talking about reopening the whole country, before we actually have a hold on this pandemic.
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No we aren't. See this green line right in the middle of the pack? That's us.
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We have a leader that is more concerned about boosting the stockmarket, than the lives of the populace of this country. We can clearly see that the death to recovered rate has grown constantly. We are currently at 21% death vs recovery rate world wide. We have seen exponential growth of infected in this country. Your graph shows that America had warning, yet failed to act. We know that there were reports from our own government about the potential of a pandemic that were ignored as early as November.
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I'm sorry, but you just aren't reading graphs right. The US death rate is lower than Europe. Trump hasn't done as good a job as some countries; US clearly isn't #1 in fighting coronavirus, but we are doing better on average then Europe.

And again, note how far you have backpeddaled already. This conversation started with your premise that the US was doing the WORST of anyone in the world. You have moved the goal posts from that all the way to "well, we aren't the best".

You are too busy trying to spread bullshit right wing talking points, to objectively look at your own graphs and understand what they say. We are in pace to be the hardest hit country in the world.
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I've given you every breakdown of the numbers possible. There is no metric by which that is true.
 
Hadron90 said:
No we aren't. See this green line right in the middle of the pack? That's us.
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Notice our steady climb while other countries are taking more drastic measures are starting to taper off. Yet we are discussing reopening the whole country for economic gains.
Hadron90 said:
I'm sorry, but you just aren't reading graphs right. The US death rate is lower than Europe. Trump hasn't done as good a job as some countries; US clearly isn't #1 in fighting coronavirus, but we are doing better on average then Europe.

And again, note how far you have backpeddaled already. This conversation started with your premise that the US was doing the WORST of anyone in the world. You have moved the goal posts from that all the way to "well, we aren't the best".
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I haven't back peddled at all. See above for my opinion. Fact US is about to be leading in total deaths. The US had ample warning yet failed to act. In fact our President was down playing the impact of this virus well after the warnings had been sounded that this pandemic would hit. We are hitting record unemployment, while our President is currently talking about stockmarket gains.
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
Trump thinks the virus is a genius because antibiotics don't work against it....



<Huh2>
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It's nice to know that Trump doesnt know the difference between bacteria and viruses.
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
Trump thinks the virus is a genius because antibiotics don't work against it....



<Huh2>
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He’s shockingly uneducated and unprepared. I still find it mind boggling on a daily basis how this doesn’t bother his followers at all.
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
Trump thinks the virus is a genius because antibiotics don't work against it....



<Huh2>
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Lowmanproblems said:
It's nice to know that Trump doesnt know the difference between bacteria and viruses.
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Octavian said:
He’s shockingly uneducated and unprepared. I still find it mind boggling on a daily basis how this doesn’t bother his followers at all.
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just four more years. That’s all guys, then it’ll be over. Just hold on. Everybody hurts, sometimes.

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Revolver said:
MIT should give him an honorary degree tbh. I didn't know this before.
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He's probably going to get a Nobel for this.

I heard Fauci came up to him and said "Sir, none of our antibiotics are working against the virus, we don't know what to do."

And Trump said "Yes this virus is very smart, I understand this better than anybody because because of my Uncle who does medicine. But we'll get smarter."

Fauci "Thank your sir. Nobody in medical knew that"
 
Hadron90 said:
Can you think of any reason that the US might have a higher death count than Iran? Do you think Ayatollah Khomeini is just better at public health policy?
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Can you think of any reason the President of the United States, would call this a Democrat hoax, while he had information available to him about the possible severity of this virus? Maybe he should had spent less time golfing and actually read the memos that came across his desk. You know, the thing he promised to do, yet has failed at to do at every turn.
 
Lowmanproblems said:
But you cant refute that the 'best health care system in the world" is going to be leading in deaths? As I stated we had more time and resources to prepare and we failed. The US is cutting back on testing to improve our stat lines. If we can show our numbers are going down instead of increasing, we can claim things are improving. Quality leadership am right?
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<{Heymansnicker}>



Have you considered a GED?
 
Lowmanproblems said:
Can you think of any reason the President of the United States, would call this a Democrat hoax, while he had information available to him about the possible severity of this virus? Maybe he should had spent less time golfing and actually read the memos that came across his desk. You know, the thing he promised to do, yet has failed at to do at every turn.
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You didn't answer my question. I will repost it:

Can you think of any reason that the US might have a higher death count than Iran? Do you think Ayatollah Khomeini is just better at public health policy?
 
All I know is my age groups survival rate is 99.8% and that big businesses got trillions in tax payer money.
 
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