Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread v2

PEB said:
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican leaders have spent months promoting the myth that red low-tax states are subsidizing blue high-tax states because of the deduction for state and local taxes.

An Associated Press Fact Check finds it’s actually the other way around. High-tax, traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) — in a big way.

Republicans are trying to eliminate the deduction as part of the sweeping tax package working its way through Congress. They added back a deduction for up to $10,000 in property taxes, in a concession to Republicans from high-tax states such as New York and New Jersey. California Republicans are pushing to extend the deduction to local income taxes, too."

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It is true that taxpayers in high-tax states benefit the most from the deduction. However, these states send far more tax dollars to Washington than residents in low-tax states.

In fact, most high-tax states send more money to Washington than they get back in federal spending. Most low-tax states make a profit from the federal government’s system of taxing and spending.

HOUSE SPEAKER PAUL RYAN:

— Ryan said the rest of the country is “propping up profligate, big-government states.”

— “States that got their act together are paying for states that didn’t,” the Wisconsin Republican said.

TREASURY SECRETARY STEVEN MNUCHIN:

— “We are getting the federal government out of the business of subsidizing states. That is going to impact high-tax states.”

THE FACTS:

Connecticut residents paid an average of $15,643 per person in federal taxes in 2015, according to a report by the Rockefeller Institute of Government. Massachusetts paid $13,582 per person, New Jersey paid $13,137 and New York paid $12,820.

California residents paid an average of $10,510.

At the other end, Mississippi residents paid an average of $5,740 per person, while West Virginia paid $6,349, Kentucky paid $6,626 and South Carolina paid $6,665.

Low-tax red states also fare better when you take into account federal spending.

Mississippi received $2.13 for every tax dollar the state sent to Washington in 2015, according to the Rockefeller study. West Virginia received $2.07, Kentucky got $1.90 and South Carolina got $1.71.

Meanwhile, New Jersey received 74 cents in federal spending for tax every dollar the state sent to Washington. New York received 81 cents, Connecticut received 82 cents and Massachusetts received 83 cents.

California fared a bit better than other blue states. It received 96 cents for every dollar the state sent to Washington.

On average, states received $1.14 in federal spending for every tax dollar they sent to Washington. That’s why the federal government has a budget deficit."
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Trumps been on Twitter the past few weeks clamoring for entertainment expenses to be deductible by businesses again. I’d be for it if they revoked the limitation on the SALT deduction. But they won’t do that since it favors blue states and blue states are bad according to them.
 
 
Seano said:
Actually, the day after Trump mentioned Hydroxtchloroquine, Bloomberg had stories about how Trump was poisoning us with Hydroxychloroquine. CNN bashed him for touting an unproven drug based on anecdotal evidence, then did the exact same thing with remdesivir.
People wouldn't have to make excuses for the president if so many people didn't put words in his mouth and present it to the nation as fact. Injecting lysol, for example. Lets be real, we all know thats not really what he said, yet how many people act as though thats exactly what he said? Or when we laugh because he mentions UV light as an internal treatment only to find a few days later it actually is a legitimate treatment that is being tested and developed? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/26/pharmaceutical-firm-aytu-bioscience-testing-uv-lig/
Of course, CNN and Bloomberg fail to cover that. Oops, right?
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I wonder if those stories had anything to do with Trump bleating out the drug as some miracle cure, only for people to ingest it.

I wonder if that's what they meant by him killing people, hmmmmm. The idea that the President throwing out medical advice about treatments he hasn't a clue of leading to people's deaths, it seems beyond the pale to you.
 
PHATV said:
This is a silly, leftist talking point. Everybody knows the states in the worst trouble financially are, in general, the most liberal. You have to play a lot of "yeah, but..." to come to any other conclusion.
https://www.mercatus.org/publications/urban-economics/state-fiscal-rankings
https://www.multistate.us/insider/2018/1/9/twenty-five-states-face-revenue-shortfalls-in-2018
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You're welcome to add up the budget surpluses and deficits of said states and do a comparison.

I don't think that math will turn out well for your narrative.

But hey, nobody is stopping you from continually cheerleading for people who care for nobody but the corporate and rentier class...........
 
HereticBD said:
Oh', I'm sorry. The "Trump said to inject Lysol and drink bleach" crowd, want nothing but verbatim quotes, sans hyperbole? That's cute.

Look, they're fear mongering over every optimistic development. It's undeniable.
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Nobody brought up Lysol but you weirdos, in classic hyperbolic deflection.....
 
hillelslovak87 said:
I wonder if those stories had anything to do with Trump bleating out the drug as some miracle cure, only for people to ingest it.

I wonder if that's what they meant by him killing people, hmmmmm. The idea that the President throwing out medical advice about treatments he hasn't a clue of leading to people's deaths, it seems beyond the pale to you.
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Shhhhhhhhh! Shame on you for mocking Dr. Trump for talking hopefully about a treatment he knew nothing about.
 
hillelslovak87 said:
Nobody brought up Lysol but you weirdos, in classic hyperbolic deflection.....
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A small sampling:

Armbars said:
Buy Donny's Lysol cleanse today!
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James Bomb said:
It's hard to take Trump or his supporters seriously anymore now that you guys are staging pro-corona demonstrations and injecting yourselves with Bleach and Lysol.
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andnowweknow said:
Are you swallowing UV ray pills or Lysol?
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King in the North said:
Let it go and mainline some Lysol like a good boy.
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Any other lies you'd like to tell? The night is young.
 
computer fogie said:
I'm surprised to see you still posting here, after last week. Imagine if this wasn't the internet, and you had said those things to people in person. You'd never show your face around them again. But hey, keep having your masochistic fun.
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Most people wouldn't be so abjectly moronic in real life like @HereticBD is wont to do on a daily basis in the WR. I doubt even he would do it.

In this thread the guy has called everyone fools for thinking Covid-19's mortality rate is anywhere close to the seasonal flu AND a line of argument that essentially boiled down to "Trump wasn't serious because he's a damn moron! Gotcha!!"

He's goofed in similar, yet smaller measure, today, with his "You lefties said Trump told people to shove Lysol bottles up their asses!!!" when he and others brought it up in the first place, unprompted!!!

And he'll run back to the TDS thread he made.............
 
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