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Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread v2
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Since not a single one of you right wingers care to actually address some of the outrageous and anti American shit the Trump admin is doing while people are dying, I'll post this again.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2010025
In Pursuit of PPE
"Our supply-chain group has worked around the clock to secure gowns, gloves, face masks, goggles, face shields, and N95 respirators. These employees have adapted to a new normal, exploring every lead, no matter how unusual. Deals, some bizarre and convoluted, and many involving large sums of money, have dissolved at the last minute when we were outbid or outmuscled, sometimes by the federal government. Then we got lucky, but getting the supplies was not easy."
They're having to set up logistics teams in order to investigate leads for supplies when the Fed ALREADY BOUGHT THEM using taxpayer dollars, and could simply use the military and their infrastructure to deliver them directly to the hospitals and state stockpiles, yet they are often getting outbid by the Fed itself, or are subject to confiscation from the Fed, per the FBI.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2010025
In Pursuit of PPE
"Our supply-chain group has worked around the clock to secure gowns, gloves, face masks, goggles, face shields, and N95 respirators. These employees have adapted to a new normal, exploring every lead, no matter how unusual. Deals, some bizarre and convoluted, and many involving large sums of money, have dissolved at the last minute when we were outbid or outmuscled, sometimes by the federal government. Then we got lucky, but getting the supplies was not easy."
They're having to set up logistics teams in order to investigate leads for supplies when the Fed ALREADY BOUGHT THEM using taxpayer dollars, and could simply use the military and their infrastructure to deliver them directly to the hospitals and state stockpiles, yet they are often getting outbid by the Fed itself, or are subject to confiscation from the Fed, per the FBI.
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That wasn't really what I was talking about. I was just acknowledging that Americans don't just fall in line with whatever the authorities tell them to do. Part of that is that they are extremely splintered on which voices or authorities are to be trusted, which comes with its negatives, sure... but it has some very clear and undeniable up sides, as well... and is a pretty big part of why America remains a powerhouse of innovation in all fields, from art, to entertainment, to science, to business, to philosophy, to politics.
I'm not a blind supporter of America and American influence. I wouldn't even consider leaving Canada to live in the US. But I'm also not inclined to shit on the US the way so many people are.
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Yeah, nobody wants our innovation in politics or philosophy at this point....
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Since you guys aren't on topic, would you care to take a crack at defending the Trump admin on what I brought in post #102?
Seems like all the Trump side has to offer is bitching complaints about how everyone thinks they're better than you..........
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It's so fucking hilarious that you think this is an election year hoax.
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Last month Trump said “Does anybody die from the flu? I didn’t know people died from the flu.”
He must have forgotten that his grandfather died in the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic.
He must have forgotten that his grandfather died in the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic.
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You're completely deranged finding outrage at everything due to your raging TDS. You have a TDS fever of 103.5.
The one saving grace is that we get to watch you here when he wins again and you criticize his every move for another 5 years.
That's my crack at post #102, Chief. How'd I do?
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Did he really say that? Context? I don't know, just asking for a friend.
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I was told there were extensive French studies even though @SBJJ posted Chinese studies instead I took him at his word.
I was bamboozled again
Or maybe I made it so the cure didn't work.... nobody knows
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You're completely deranged finding outrage at everything due to your raging TDS. You have a TDS fever of 103.5.
The one saving grace is that we get to watch you here when he wins again and you criticize his every move for another 5 years.
That's my crack at post #102, Chief. How'd I do?
You addressed nothing relating in any way to the content of what I provided.
Would you like to actually try to defend, or engage at all, on this issue? Do you have a problem with taxpayer funded medical supplies being given to corporations to auction off to the states? What about the Trump admin using the FBI to confiscate said medical supplies?
Care to actually engage with something but an orange man bad or claims of tds? Or is it futile, me holding you to such a low standard?
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It's hard to believe, but he really said it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-said-he-didnt-know-people-died-from-the-flu-2020-3
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Better isn't the right word.
Smarter is a much better and accurate word.
Comparatively Trump has handled this whole thing very well.
But bitch and moan on the internet all day and I'm sure things will improve
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Except that he said some really stupid shit until one day last month when he suddenly started taking it seriously. This is what he said on March 6, when he was still trying to downplay it: “Does anybody die from the flu? I didn’t know people died from the flu.”
There are many more quotes from him like this one. Let me know if you have forgotten them and want a reminder. I'd be happy to refresh your memory. Trump supporters are trying to rewrite history by pretending that he was on top of this all along.
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"He said some really stupid shit."
Oh no!
Sorry I'll take the bottom line over you're opinion over who said what and what is stupid or not.
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Better isn't the right word.
Smarter is such a much better and accurate word.
Comparatively Trump has handled this whole thing very well.
But bitch and moan on the internet all day and I'm sure things will improve
Some of his major stumbling blocks have been gridlocking PPE distribution, testing logjams at private labs and slowness to utilize authority to compel companies to manufacture equipment. Not comparing him to other leaders, in a vacuum some of it has just been baffling.
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So your opinion is that it was ok for Trump to be downplaying the pandemic in March? "My opinion" is that he either lied or he's mentally unfit, because he said that in spite of the fact that his grandfather died of the Spanish Flu. That's ok with you too?
What is this "bottom line" you speak of? You have some way of excusing Trump's mishandling of this? I can't wait to hear it.
Just accept it, he's a bumbling idiot who still can't stop treating his daily updates like campaign rallies. His insecurity is immense, his incompetence is overwhelming. He's been a disaster with this, as he has for most things. You don't have to defend everything he does and says, it's ok to acknowledge that he's a fool. It would make you look more logical and reasonable, tbh.
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Better isn't the right word.
Smarter is a much better and accurate word.
Comparatively Trump has handled this whole thing very well.
But bitch and moan on the internet all day and I'm sure things will improve
Do you care to address the content of what I provided? It highlights some huge corruption problems that are getting people killed at this very moment along with shuttering our economy.
I don't get the apathetic, leave Britney alone routine you play. You guys are always confident in your assertions until actual information is brought forth, then it's trolling like you're doing now....
If scrolling up isn't your thing, here's the same info again. Try to defend this practice by the admin, and use your words.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2010025
"Our supply-chain group has worked around the clock to secure gowns, gloves, face masks, goggles, face shields, and N95 respirators. These employees have adapted to a new normal, exploring every lead, no matter how unusual. Deals, some bizarre and convoluted, and many involving large sums of money, have dissolved at the last minute when we were outbid or outmuscled, sometimes by the federal government. Then we got lucky, but getting the supplies was not easy."
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Words are words are words.......I prefer the bottom line. And the bottom line is that we're doing well above average from a case to death ratio.
I don't defend everything he says or does, because there isn't a need to. Many people, myself included, don't like his personality. But personality is a far and away forgetful trait when it comes to a president to me. He was done GREAT as far as this virus is concerned, among other things.
It's ok to acknowledge that he's a great president, you might appear a little more logical and reasonable.
Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths worldwide per one million population as of April 21, 2020, by country
Showing entries 1 to 13 (134 entries in total)
Belgium 5,828 11.42 510.24
Spain 20,852 46.72 446.28
Italy 24,114 60.43 399.03
France 20,265 66.99 302.52
United Kingdom 16,509 66.49 248.3
Netherlands 3,751 17.23 217.69
Switzerland 1,429 8.52 167.79
Sweden 1,580 10.18 155.16
Ireland 687 4.85 141.55
United States 42,296 327.17 129.28
Portugal 735 10.28 71.49
Iran 5,209 81.8 63.68
Denmark 364 5.8 62.79
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
The numbers don't lie.
So I'm sorry you don't like his words, but words mean nothing compared to action.
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Would you care to address the Air Bridge corruption I've brought information regarding? You don't seem to ever address stuff that doesn't jive with your narrative.........
