International Coronavirus Breaking News, v6

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Can somebody get a separate thread going for the political trolls and retards shitting this thread up by posting irrelevant political garbage?

I don't feel like posting in these anymore when half of the posts are about muhhh dumbocrats and republitards. Take that shit somewhere else please.

Why did @irish_thug stop deleting all the off-topic rubbish? Please come back
 
Trump can make things way worse in the US, though. And since the US doesn't exist within a vacuum, the potential for harm is great. When you combine that with huge cuts to relevant agencies, political mercenaries being appointed to places like the HHS, rampant understaffing across those agencies, and putting a guy who believes in praying away the gay in charge of the response to a possible pandemic?

Yeah.......

Trump is doing all he can to prevent panic. The last thing you want is for everyone to pack the ERs across the country for coughing and for people to start rushing grocery stores and emptying all the food and water supply.
 
Theoretically, if one were to wear an n95 mask, and say swimming goggles, that should protect against infection right?
Yes

Not 100%, but a lot better than not doing it. Aerosols might pass through an n95 filter, but it will protect against droplets.

If nothing else, it prevents you from touching your face.
 
Updates should not have to be cleared by Pence or any other government organization. This pandemic is most likely the result of foolish government tinkering with viruses. Health officials and doctors should be able to openly give updates as needed.
 


I thought NZ would have a chance at stopping this, but they kept letting people fly in from China
 
Trump can make things way worse in the US, though. And since the US doesn't exist within a vacuum, the potential for harm is great. When you combine that with huge cuts to relevant agencies, political mercenaries being appointed to places like the HHS, rampant understaffing across those agencies, and putting a guy who believes in praying away the gay in charge of the response to a possible pandemic?

Yeah.......

They are going to get the money, in the billions, so the "agency cuts" are not going to play a factor here. One thing you have to realize is that the U.S. government and its various tentacles have been unprepared for something like this since long before Trump came along. Its the entire reason we only have 30 million masks in stockpile for health care workers when we need ten times that amount, 300 million. As I said though, it wold take a miracle to stop this virus from being a true pandemic. Its far too infectious. When I saw what China was doing I realized that the rest of the world was going to be in trouble because we aren't going to weld apartment buildings shut.
 
Trump is doing all he can to prevent panic. The last thing you want is for everyone to pack the ERs across the country for coughing and for people to start rushing grocery stores and emptying all the food and water supply.

Going out and spreading false information before introducing experts that directly contradict you, that is not doing the right thing. The Chinese/Iranian method is fucking retarded.

They are going to get the money, in the billions, so the "agency cuts" are not going to play a factor here. One thing you have to realize is that the U.S. government and its various tentacles have been unprepared for something like this since long before Trump came along. Its the entire reason we only have 30 million masks in stockpile for health care workers when we need ten times that amount, 300 million. As I said though, it wold take a miracle to stop this virus from being a true pandemic. Its far too infectious. When I saw what China was doing I realized that the rest of the world was going to be in trouble because we aren't going to weld apartment buildings shut.

They have been issuing billion dollar cuts to agencies related to public health every single year since Trump has come into office. There are massive vacancies in the CDC and other relevant agencies, along with acting directors in many of them, including Alex Azar, a Trump appointee with ZERO EXPERTISE at the head of the HHS.

Systematic maladministration, corruption and ineptitude is not to be looked at with derision like "Meh, they'll be fine. Hey, it could get worse, right?"

The responses of the Trump admin to disasters and public health emergencies compared to previous competent admins that were properly staffed and appointed could not be clearer.
 
****Disclaimer - This is potential tinfoil conspiracy stuff but I thought it was interesting*****
I was watching a YouTube video about the Virus and someone wrote this big comment on it and it has information and links to purely speculative things but it would not surprise me at this point the way the world governments could care less about us.
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Ken Adachi-- 5G is a Factor in Coronavirus Deaths - 5G is a kill grid that will lead to forced vaccinations "First Comment from James Perloff: Thanks for posting this important article, Henry. I found the video it links to very compelling: . The coronavirus outbreak coinciding with 5G rollout in Wuhan is too much of a coincidence. People walking down the street don't drop dead instantly from a virus. The severe impact of 5G's frequency on oxygen uptake makes much more sense. The cruise ship had advanced connectivity. Italy was also implementing 5G. It looks like the plan is this: roll out 5G worldwide, while simultaneously blaming all the illness it causes on the "the spreading coronavirus," then kill even more people with mandatory vaccines funded by Bill Gates. Those who resist get SWAT-teamed on orders from President Michael "I'm coming for your guns" Bloomberg." — "Ken Adachi-- 5G is a Factor in Coronavirus Deaths" - https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/02/5-G-Factor-in-Coronavirus-Deaths.html "60 GHz is the oxygen molecule absorption spectrum. I repeat that. This is the frequency that the oxygen molecules start reacting to. So they're using Wi-Fi to mess with the water. They're going to use WiGig and 5G to mess with the oxygen." — Joe Imbriano - "Urgent! Forbidden information, a must watch! 5G is a kill grid that will lead to forced vaccinations." - https://invidio.us/watch?v=oY5SReQ2Kqc 5+ NWO Agendas Accompanying the Coronavirus Epidemic" - https://thefreedomarticles.com/5-nwo-agendas-accompanying-coronavirus-epidemic/ - 1. Centralized Control of Information, i.e. Censorship and Narrative Control - 2. The Cashless Agenda - 3. Martial Law Quarantines - 4. Mandatory Vaccination - 5. Bill Gates’ ID2020: Digital Identification via Microchipping And: "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING: "Severe Disruptions"" - And then imagine there is even no such thing like a virus at all. They have never extracted one single disease causing virus ever! It's all a big scam from the beginning, it's openly led warfare on the population. "Dismantling The virus Theory - The “measles virus” as an example Why should we doubt the existence of viruses? What are viruses and what are they not? How are viruses being scientifically demonstrated to exist? ...During his experiments, Enders et al. sterilised the tissue cultures in order to exclude the possibility of bacteria killing the cells. What he didn’t take into consideration was that the sterilisation and the treatment of the cell culture when preparing it for the alleged infection was exactly what was killing the cells. Instead, he interpreted the cytopathic effects as the existence and the action of polio viruses, without ever having isolated a single virus and described its biochemistry. The necessary negative control experiments, which would have shown that the sterilisation and the treatment of the cells prior to the “infection” in the test tube was killing the cells, have never been performed. However, for this “performance” Enders received the Nobel prize in 1954. 1954 is also the year in which Enders applied and introduced the same technique in order to allegedly replicate the measles virus. As he had been awarded the Nobel prize for the alleged polio virus the same year, all researchers believed his technique to be scientifically valid. Thus, to date, the entire concept of measles has been based upon this technique. Thus, the measles vaccines do not contain viruses, but particles of dead monkey kidney tissue or human cancer cells." — Dr. Stefan Lanka - "Dismantling The virus Theory" - https://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/Dismantling-the-Virus-Theory.pdf
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I myself think that 5G is unnecessary and will do more harm then good and it is scary to think there could be issues related to it that are being masked by the Corona Virus. Also I have not heard previously that Wuhan rolled out 5G right before or around the time of the outbreak so who knows.
 
I've already got my mask on my Av to keep it catching anything from you f*ckers.
Nice. You beat me to it. I sent a PM to a shooper friend about an hour ago to see if he could hook up my AV with a mask but I haven't heard back from him yet.

But back on topic. I just want to say that I am a conservative but I am not at all cool with the White House's move to silence the health officials handling this thing. That is a bad move.
 
The numbers seriously doesn't even come close to make sense. We have a couple hundred confirmed cases in northern Italy so far. Just a couple hundred. Which is still just a tiny amount in the large scale of things.

At the same time, case after case after case of people testing positive after returning from vacation in northern Italy are coming in. Given the large amount of infected tourists you just have to wonder what the actual scale of the outbreak in northern Italy is.
 
Governments are withholding their cases. I know some people working in the Middle East and a lot of their colleagues have taken leave since the outbreak and public spaces are empty.
Our governments would want to avoid mass panic. If employees don’t show up to work, consumers don’t spend and investors pull out their money all of a sudden then the economic losses will be huge. They could care less about citizens’ well-being.
Although we should wait on how truly deadly this outbreak is.
 
There is reason to believe China may be incinerating millions of people. One of their billionaires in exile has claimed the incinerating capacity to do this has been put in place. Videos from Wuhan at night used to show people shouting "Jiyo!" and a couple days ago it was people screaming in agony, and now, it's silent. No more videos from Wuhan at night. We also have videos of people being hauled away. So why would China do this? If the virus comes back again and again, like a herpes sore, and gets worse, then China may have concluded that the only way to get rid of it is to get rid of all infected people. I hope this is not true.
 
Alot of yall act like straight children. This thread was intended for information, not political opinions

Exactly and a few just can’t seem to grasp that.

Seems like a political thread blaming Trump for the virus could be made separately to allow for this one to be more informational, even given we're in the WR. It's more international than orange man bad.

Can somebody get a separate thread going for the political trolls and retards shitting this thread up by posting irrelevant political garbage?

I don't feel like posting in these anymore when half of the posts are about muhhh dumbocrats and republitards. Take that shit somewhere else please.

Why did @irish_thug stop deleting all the off-topic rubbish? Please come back

Yeah, this place went down the toilet fast whenever Irish_thug is too busy to help taking out the trash.

The moment Trump held his press conference and started tweeting afterwards, I knew the thread gonna take a sharp turn away from the actual outbreaks still happening all around the world to Sherdogger's opinions about Trump, which are once again virtually identical to any of the other thousand threads about Trump in the hyper-partisan WR.

It make little sense to continue with the actual International Coronavirus Breaking News now, when they are quickly buried under all the U.S-centric political muck, so I suggest we take a little break while waiting for the Mods to split all that crap to a separate thread about "Your personal opinion on the Trump administration's handling of the Coronavirus", then continue from there.

After all, that's the REAL reason for most of these new people to finally shows up after 5 long and informative threads about the Coronavirus, and didn't even bother to read the OP before jumping in face-first, isn't it.
 
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China got this under control no problem.

 
Jesus dude. Chillax. You're letting your Paranoia get away from you Bro.

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ETA: This is going to be fine. Trust me. The media is always full of shit. You can almost know what the truth is by believing the opposite of what they report. They are trying to create a panic to get views and clicks. In a couple of months we'll all be talking about something else.


So...... can we trust non media sources? Like a Microsoft saying they expect to not meet earnings because China is fucked up? Cause that happened. Maybe microsoft is just listening to the media about their supply chains though.

https://news.microsoft.com/2020/02/26/microsoft-update-on-q3-fy20-guidance/

How about investing in general? Can we trust that? How does the DOW look?

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia

Wiped out a year's growth, and dropping fast. Think that might be an indicator of something?
 
So...... can we trust non media sources? Like a Microsoft saying they expect to not meet earnings because China is fucked up? Cause that happened. Maybe microsoft is just listening to the media about their supply chains though.

https://news.microsoft.com/2020/02/26/microsoft-update-on-q3-fy20-guidance/

How about investing in general? Can we trust that? How does the DOW look?

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia

Wiped out a year's growth, and dropping fast. Think that might be an indicator of something?
Nah man... All that stuff actually makes logical sense to be concerned about. I'm talking more to posts like this one:
"There is reason to believe China may be incinerating millions of people. One of their billionaires in exile has claimed the incinerating capacity to do this has been put in place. Videos from Wuhan at night used to show people shouting "Jiyo!" and a couple days ago it was people screaming in agony, and now, it's silent. No more videos from Wuhan at night. We also have videos of people being hauled away. So why would China do this? If the virus comes back again and again, like a herpes sore, and gets worse, then China may have concluded that the only way to get rid of it is to get rid of all infected people. I hope this is not true."
I sincerely believe that this will pass fairly quickly and there's no reason for people to be getting so freaked out and start panicking about contracting this themselves. It's passed through coughs and sneezes as I understand it and the overwhelming majority of people recover in thier homes in a couple of weeks. As for the Market, well...people are panicking and let's get real, a lot of the the posts in here today are simply Concern Trolls using this as an excuse to bust on Trump. :rolleyes:

The market was due for a correction anyway... It's been on quite a run. Quite frankly I think I'll probably be looking to buy some more stock myself pretty soon as I guarantee we're gonna recover a good chunk of that loss. In the mean time it would help everyone if people could just take a deep breath and not get dragged into crazy conspiracy theories.
 
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First Welsh case of Coronavirus. Man contracted it in Italy.

Seems quite a lot of people are catching it in Italy. I have to imagine its bigger in Italy than what they believe to be true.
 
I'm not sure if I'm remembering this properly due to slightly too many edibles last night, but people were posting about testing in america iirc

I heard Fauci on my public radio station. He is known from his work with AIDS among other things. Said the CDC are randomly testing in significant numbers in five cities- LA, SF, SEA, CHI, and NY.
 
Second confirmed case in The Netherlands, a woman who recently visited, wait for it, Lombardy, Italy.
 
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