Cormier, Sonnen say no way Jones gets 30mil, will never happen

[fedorthegoat777]

“To me, 30 just seems strong. ‘Cause how many pay-per-views break down? I mean, breaking down, that’s 15 million pay-per-views. That’s just silly. That’d be about 11 and a half million. That’s just not going to happen.”

Daniel Cormier agreed with The American Gangster’s comments, “Yeah, the largest pay-per-view of all time is 2 million pay-per-views, two and a half for Khabib and Conor. There’s no way you get to 30 million. But hey, if you ask for 30 and you get 15, when you probably got eight—hey, that’s a good day. Or you get to 20—that’s a good day. I don’t believe he gets to 30 million,” said Cormier.

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So I guess Jones has successfully priced himself out?

First off, Chael is about as reliable as Dana.

Second, are you suggesting the best mma organization in the world can't afford what is considered an average salary by boxing standards to the greatest fighter who every lived and pound for pound best? Dana said all this. Seems weird he can't get a paltry 30 mill for a send off for the greatest of all time.

 

[PeterGriffin]

Thing is, Jones hasnt even said the number, 30 million while crazy is still doable, when Canelo makes $30 million his opponent gets a small fraction of that and he isnt this huge PPV draw, the same would happen here, they could do it but they wont cause it would set a precedent, imagine Conor demanding $30 million cause he actually sells over 1 million PPV´s, or at least has done in the past, who knows how his next fight could do, if ever.

Rogan: Jon Jones is demanding $30 million to fight Tom Aspinall

On the latest episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Rogan said $30 million is the number Jones is asking for, and the UFC is prepared to pay it.

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Upset at his pay, Jon Jones says he is giving up UFC light heavyweight title

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So, the promoters of ‘Fight Island’ think Jon Jones’ contract demands are absurd?

Just over one week ago, Forbes released its list of the 100 highest-paid athletes in the world. It included boxers like Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury, stars from the NBA, NFL and MLB, golfers,...

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Jones' contract demands aren't just some made up numbers by haters. Everyone knows he said it.

Buuuuuuttttttt.... maybe "Fuck You money" is actually code for "less than Deontay Wilder money" and we're all reading Saint Jon completely wrong.

 

[ArtardFiesta]

pro athleltes in the mlb and nba are getting $50+M now. in the nba it is not even stars getting $40+M. People said that would never happen as well.

according to chael himself there is some illuminati type that makes sure boxers get the promised purse even if the gate is shit. so i would never say never here.

 

[PeterGriffin]

First off, Chael is about as reliable as Dana.

Second, are you suggesting the best mma organization in the world can't afford what is considered an average salary by boxing standards to the greatest fighter who every lived and pound for pound best? Dana said all this. Seems weird he can't get a paltry 30 mill for a send off for the greatest of all time.

Look at the $30m figure objectively though how it relates to the real total expenses.

The UFC still has to pay all the other fighters, the venue, insurance, flights and hotels, staff... and I am sure there are a litany of other things I forget/don't know of. Someone did the numbers before and I think Jon's average PPV buyrate was around 700k. Beyond all that, the UFC uses PPV point bonusing to support a lower base pay, and it doesn't seem like Jon is interested in that route either.

The UFC can 100% take a financial hit and operate one event at a (near) break even point for the sake of making one particular fight happen. I believe it's the precedent they are trying to avoid establishing. If they acquiesce to Jon, then there will just be others who follow suit sooner or later.

Jon's already announced he's on the way out, so there is no real incentive for the UFC to just bend over and take it for someone who's leaving.

 

[Tweak896]

Never doubt oil money, they seem to be the only ones dumb enough to pay these purses even if the event is unprofitable.

I find it hilarious how many people want to pay fighters what they are worth while simultaneously ignoring what profit margin a Jones/Aspinall event brings. Super fights should just be a higher ppv share, whatever that is.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Look at the $30m figure objectively though how it relates to the real total expenses.

The UFC still has to pay all the other fighters, the venue, insurance, flights and hotels, staff... and I am sure there are a litany of other things I forget/don't know of. Someone did the numbers before and I think Jon's average PPV buyrate was around 700k. Beyond all that, the UFC uses PPV point bonusing to support a lower base pay, and it doesn't seem like Jon is interested in that route either.

The UFC can 100% take a financial hit and operate one event at a (near) break even point for the sake of making one particular fight happen. I believe it's the precedent they are trying to avoid establishing. If they acquiesce to Jon, then there will just be others who follow suit sooner or later.

Jon's already announced he's on the way out, so there is no real incentive for the UFC to just bend over and take it for someone who's leaving.

Great point.
But if Dana doesn't put this together, then he has failed to deliver with 3 heavyweight champs. Frank, Fedor, and Jon.

 

[El Fernas]

Rogan: Jon Jones is demanding $30 million to fight Tom Aspinall

On the latest episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Rogan said $30 million is the number Jones is asking for, and the UFC is prepared to pay it.

www.mmamania.com

Upset at his pay, Jon Jones says he is giving up UFC light heavyweight title

www.sportsnet.ca

So, the promoters of ‘Fight Island’ think Jon Jones’ contract demands are absurd?

Just over one week ago, Forbes released its list of the 100 highest-paid athletes in the world. It included boxers like Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury, stars from the NBA, NFL and MLB, golfers,...

www.mmafighting.com

Jones' contract demands aren't just some made up numbers by haters. Everyone knows he said it.

Buuuuuuttttttt.... maybe "Fuck You money" is actually code for "less than Deontay Wilder money" and we're all reading Saint Jon completely wrong.

3 articles, neither has Jones saying the number, thats my point, he refuses to say a number, the media is just going by some rumour created by Joe Rogan.

First off, Chael is about as reliable as Dana.

Second, are you suggesting the best mma organization in the world can't afford what is considered an average salary by boxing standards to the greatest fighter who every lived and pound for pound best? Dana said all this. Seems weird he can't get a paltry 30 mill for a send off for the greatest of all time.

Thats far from "average" even in Boxing, having said that, its not like they absolutely cant, they wont cause it sets a precedent for other fighters, its not like they will have to pay Aspinall a similar number, he will be more than fine taking 2 million + PPV Points, just like some boxers do to get the big fights.

 

[PeterGriffin]

3 articles, neither has Jones saying the number, thats my point, he refuses to say a number, the media is just going by some rumour created by Joe Rogan.

Jones himself told Dana and Hunter Campbell he wanted Deontay Wilder money, and this all began back in 2021 right after Wilder got paid $30m to fight Fury when the UFC was trying to put Ngannou and Jones together.

Do you think Jones is asking for less money to fight Tom?

 

[El Fernas]

Jones himself told Dana and Hunter Campbell he wanted Deontay Wilder money, and this all began back in 2021 right after Wilder got paid $30m to fight Fury when the UFC was trying to put Ngannou and Jones together.

Do you think Jones is asking for less money to fight Tom?

He is asking for something dumb, 30m? probably, or even more, my point is that he isnt bringing the discussion to the public this time, he is saying he doesnt want the fight, or will fight for a shit load of money, back then he said "Wilder Money", more recently it was "fuck you money", my bet is that we will never know the actual number, Jones will vacate, Dana White will say "kid didnt want to fight, we had to go with the next guy" when he makes Gane vs Aspinall for the title, potentially stripping Jones untill fight night like he has done in the past.

PS: 30M is a very decent number, thats elite boxing money, they can do it but they wont, and even then, he might be asking for more, similar to Canelo saying 200million to fight Benavidez, but at least Canelo said a number.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

I don't know about all of this but I think Luke Thomas take on the matter makes the most sense.

Basically Jon deserves 30 mill and not only can the UFC afford it, they would profit from it. Money isn't the issue here. It's the fact that the organisation doesn't like getting leveraged on, no matter what. So yeah it's a problem.

I really wanna see this fight obviously but I don't think it happens. Jon doesn't give a fuck about pleasing the fans or his image or doing "what's right". He'll vacate the belt and that's it.

Aspinall/Gane for the undisputed title in June.

Jones will never vacate. History has shown more then once, Jones will have to be stripped of the Belt. There is a difference.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

If they pay a huge sum to Jones, then Pereira will ask for the same, as he is the biggest draw right now. Then Topuria will ask, then Islam will ask. They will not risk opening the Pandora box.

And for good reason. One, theres a good chance Jones gets KO'd by Aspinal, Two, even if he wins, he will most certainly retire, so that just leaves the UFC without a legit Champ.

 

[humperdoo]

Maybe if Dana gets a cut from Connor Vs Jake Paul fight, he'd share It with Jones .

 

[Cooliox]

Cormier with that BS deduction - Why would the event need to sell 15 million PPVS?

That's just basing the revenue share off the old 80:20 model, where the UFC gets 80% and the fighter gets 20% including $2 a ppv in bonus.

Dana been going around the whole year calling Jones the GOAT... but won't even pay him $30Mil?

Dana already lost Ngannou because U Fight Cheap will never let the fighters gain any value, despite being worth billions of dollars and stock prices doubling from last year.

Fk Jones the human-being, but Jon Jones the Fighter deserves $30 Million to fight Tom Aspinal in what Dana calls "The Biggest HW Fighter Ever".

Jones vacated the LHW belt years ago because Dana laughed at Jones when Jones asked to move up to fight Ngannou at HW- because he wanted more money. Dana told him that the old contract stands.

GSP also retired for years because the Bald Goof laughed at him and refused to pay for GSP's vada testing when GSP was trying to bring good name to the sport.
Dana would become petty after GSP won the MW belt, and straight up refused Khabib VS GSP even though both of them wanted the fight.

How many great fights are we going to be deprived of, thanks to the Bald Goof Dana?

 

[Captain Herb]

First off, Chael is about as reliable as Dana.

Second, are you suggesting the best mma organization in the world can't afford what is considered an average salary by boxing standards to the greatest fighter who every lived and pound for pound best? Dana said all this. Seems weird he can't get a paltry 30 mill for a send off for the greatest of all time.

I guess it depends if they want to make a profit on the event. If they don't, then pay him the money.

 

[wh4tttt]

I always thought the first number thrown out was to get people to the table to hash out numbers.

 

[cburm]

Let's be real if any combat athlete should be getting 50+ Mill a fight today it should be Jon he should be the first paid ..

He accomplished something that well probably never see again.. and he's an exciting fighter....

 

[13Seconds]

Jones will never vacate. History has shown more then once, Jones will have to be stripped of the Belt. There is a difference.

Ok stripped then.