Cormier is still a paper champion, no. 2 in the world

Margarito beat Cotto. Doesn't matter that his gloves where loaded he still landed those punches and they still stopped Cotto.
 
What?

You'd rather be someone who is so insecure of himself he had to cheat to get where he is (err, was) in his career, has ruined that career due to being a complete sociopath, breaks rules and is such a shitty human being he loses huge sponsorship deals because of it, breaks the law repeatedly, crashes into and injures innocent people with no concern for anyone but himself, all while initially being fake as fuck and an enormous hypocrite bragging about things like snitching on kids for smoking weed and having bible verse tattoos until his true character is inevitably revealed?

You'd rather be that person than an olympic champion, family man, and best fighter in the world against anyone who isn't cheating, with an extremely successful career who will be able to continue that success for years to come if he so choses, and even after retirement will have numerous opportunities at his fingertips, based on the simple fact that he got publicly emotional after pouring his heart and soul into something and being genuinely and understandably disappointed he didn't accomplish what he'd hoped to? Not to mention the fact the most likely reason he didn't accomplish it was because his opponent was cheating?

Speaks volumes to your character. You're going to spend the last years of your life miserable and alone if you're not that way already.

I'd rather be the younger more talented fighter whom sent the other guy home crying TWICE. This isn't rocket science.
 
Margarito beat Cotto. Doesn't matter that his gloves where loaded he still landed those punches and they still stopped Cotto.

This is true. HAS ANYONE HERE EVEN BEEN IN A REAL FIGHT?

IF YOU LOST A FIGHT, DID YOU TELL YOUR FRIENDS HE ONLY BEAT ME CAUSE HE DOES STERIODS? HOW DID THAT GO?

I'd rather be the guy who wins. In the real world fights are never fair.

Was it fair that Jon Jones came back to fight number one active fighter after 2 year layoff? No!

THEY'RE FIGHTERS, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO MAKE EXCUSES.
 
I'd rather be the younger more talented fighter whom sent the other guy home crying TWICE. This isn't rocket science.

LOL, rocket science? You're definitely going places in life with decision making skills like that.

First of all, we don't know how talented Jones truly is because he's likely been cheating the whole time. Without PEDS he might just be average, no one can possibly know for sure at this point. Evidence such as pre vs post TRT Belfort supports the idea that he'd never be better than mediocre had he been clean during his career.

Either way, you just admitted you'd rather be the (possibly) more talented, younger fighter with the utterly ruined career who may never fight for a premier mma organization or see a major sponsor dollar again, than a beloved successful family man who is almost guaranteed continued success in his career long after he retires.

Fine by me. But you should probably rethink your priorities in life.
 
People who still side with Jones are true-blue, literal cucks.

Trust me, I'm a scientist.
 
This is true. HAS ANYONE HERE EVEN BEEN IN A REAL FIGHT?

IF YOU LOST A FIGHT, DID YOU TELL YOUR FRIENDS HE ONLY BEAT ME CAUSE HE DOES STERIODS? HOW DID THAT GO?

I'd rather be the guy who wins. In the real world fights are never fair.

Was it fair that Jon Jones came back to fight number one active fighter after 2 year layoff? No!

THEY'RE FIGHTERS, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO MAKE EXCUSES.

this is a sport, not a street fight.
HINT : have you noticed they were in a cage and had a referee ? I don't think street fights have referees, at least not where I live
 
This is true. HAS ANYONE HERE EVEN BEEN IN A REAL FIGHT?

Have you? If you got sucker punched or jumped by 3 dudes would you just say, "those guys are better fighters than me"?

How about if you agreed to a fist fight with someone and they beat the shit out of you with a baseball bat?

Jones on PEDs vs DC was not a fair fight, period.
 
The fact is that everyone will always know that there was and is a guy out there that can beat him. Steroids or not, that headkick still landed, and those elbows still gave Cormier a concussion.



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LOL, rocket science? You're definitely going places in life with decision making skills like that.

First of all, we don't know how talented Jones truly is because he's likely been cheating the whole time. Without PEDS he might just be average, no one can possibly know for sure at this point. Evidence such as pre vs post TRT Belfort supports the idea that he'd never be better than mediocre had he been clean during his career.

Either way, you just admitted you'd rather be the (possibly) more talented, younger fighter with the utterly ruined career who may never fight for a premier mma organization or see a major sponsor dollar again, than a beloved successful family man who is almost guaranteed continued success in his career long after he retires.

Fine by me. But you should probably rethink your priorities in life.

Get off your high horse. Jon Jones absolutely destroyed DC in a devastating fashion. The fights were barely competitive. DC never had a chance and you know it.

Steroids don't make champions. If that were the case a lot more people WOULD be fighters.

DC is not the best and he never will be as long as Jon Jones walks the earth...and he knows this. That is why he cries every night while taking a shower.
 
This is true. HAS ANYONE HERE EVEN BEEN IN A REAL FIGHT?

IF YOU LOST A FIGHT, DID YOU TELL YOUR FRIENDS HE ONLY BEAT ME CAUSE HE DOES STERIODS? HOW DID THAT GO?

I'd rather be the guy who wins. In the real world fights are never fair.

Was it fair that Jon Jones came back to fight number one active fighter after 2 year layoff? No!

THEY'RE FIGHTERS, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO MAKE EXCUSES.

this isn't a real fight

this is a sport and according to the rules of the league jones lost

deal with it
 
It's paper vs. juice at this point. Sorry, alleged juice. However you see it, it's a complete mess. You have two of the best fighters of all time and their legacies are clouded by this whole fiasco.
I don't think you have to say alleged juice. Hi s test failure is a fact, not just an allegation. We're in the process of double-checking that fact now. But in the meantime, the facts say Jones used anabolic steroids.
 
Have you? If you got sucker punched or jumped by 3 dudes would you just say, "those guys are better fighters than me"?

How about if you agreed to a fist fight with someone and they beat the shit out of you with a baseball bat?

Jones on PEDs vs DC was not a fair fight, period.

An azz wippen is an azz wippen in the real world. And DC got woooooped.
 
LOL, rocket science? You're definitely going places in life with decision making skills like that.

First of all, we don't know how talented Jones truly is because he's likely been cheating the whole time. Without PEDS he might just be average, no one can possibly know for sure at this point. Evidence such as pre vs post TRT Belfort supports the idea that he'd never be better than mediocre had he been clean during his career.

Either way, you just admitted you'd rather be the (possibly) more talented, younger fighter with the utterly ruined career who may never fight for a premier mma organization or see a major sponsor dollar again, than a beloved successful family man who is almost guaranteed continued success in his career long after he retires.

Fine by me. But you should probably rethink your priorities in life.

"no one can possibly know for sure at this point".


"TRT Belfort supports the idea that he'd never be better than mediocre."

Drug affect people differently btw.


But lets be real, Jones did cheat, but I think its BS to say he cheated his whole career.


If I had to guess, I'd say after the Gusstaffon (sp?) fight is when he lost some confindence.


But I think Jones beat DC 10/10 times, just match up wise, he beats DC.
 
Yes Bones is a rood user like 75 to 80% of tbe roster hes just dumb I mean like retard dumb and does it stupid an gets easily busted.

Fact is DC was beat once and brutally KOd the next time . The belt was now handed to him twice he NEVER won the belt from tbe champ he lost. Hence the man is Paper.
 
Support your local cheater...

you jones dickriders need fucking 12 step program..

Denial is the first stage right???
 
I will always believe it and I will keep saying it:

that is the ugliest and most awkward ''high'' kick of all time.
 
Get off your high horse. Jon Jones absolutely destroyed DC in a devastating fashion. The fights were barely competitive. DC never had a chance and you know it.

Steroids don't make champions. If that were the case a lot more people WOULD be fighters.

DC is not the best and he never will be as long as Jon Jones walks the earth...and he knows this. That is why he cries every night while taking a shower.

I'm not really disagreeing with anything you just said here, other than more people being fighters if steroids made champions. Maybe you mistyped but anyway...

I'm just baffled that you'd rather be a guy who was able to beat some of the best guys in the world, but only because he's a sociopathic, lying, cheating, scumbag who has now ruined his life and career because of it.

Jesus, Jones fans are starting to look even worse than McGregor fans and I never thought I'd ever say that. I was a HUGE fan of Jones as a fighter for a long time, even after most of his fuck ups I still considered him the GOAT and even gave him the benefit of the doubt with the 'dick pill' excuse. Not any more, the guy is a complete fraud and I hope karma has finally caught up to him.

EDIT: Actually there's one more thing I disagree with here; that DC never had a chance and I know it. Untrue. What I know is that DC would've had a much better chance if Jones wasn't cheating, and the first fight was close enough that PEDs could've easily been the deciding factor.

You can believe whatever you want, but the most likely scenario moving forward is Jones gets stripped and suspended for 4 years, the fight is overturned to a no-contest, DC regains the belt, Jones never fights in the UFC again, and in most people's minds every one of his wins is questionable and his legacy ruined.
 
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