Cormier is still a paper champion, no. 2 in the world

aichokyu said:
this is a sport, not a street fight.
HINT : have you noticed they were in a cage and had a referee ? I don't think street fights have referees, at least not where I live
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If Jon Jones legitimately got away with taking PEDS before than 95% of fighters are on juice so it doesn't matter either way.

At the end of the day DC was destroyed in the octagon like some amateur by a guy who came back from 2 year layoff. ALL the roids in the world wouldn't have saved him.
 
Dr Brian Pepper said:
"no one can possibly know for sure at this point".


"TRT Belfort supports the idea that he'd never be better than mediocre."

Drug affect people differently btw.


But lets be real, Jones did cheat, but I think its BS to say he cheated his whole career.


If I had to guess, I'd say after the Gusstaffon (sp?) fight is when he lost some confindence.


But I think Jones beat DC 10/10 times, just match up wise, he beats DC.
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Nothing I said was incorrect. You might be right as well but it's all speculation. It's also possible that without steroids Jones is unable to stop DCs take downs and is ragdolled the same way most of DC's other opponents were. No one knows how good or bad Jones would've been without cheating, but what we do know is that there are numerous examples of athletes who looked amazing while on PEDS and didn't look anywhere near the same when they were clean.

For the record, I believe Jones would still be one of the best in the world without PEDs, there's no questioning his talent. But I also believe he loses to Gus and Cormier if he's clean.
 
45ACP said:
I'm not really disagreeing with anything you just said here, other than more people being fighters if steroids made champions. Maybe you mistyped but anyway...

I'm just baffled that you'd rather be a guy who was able to beat some of the best guys in the world, but only because he's a sociopathic, lying, cheating scumbag who has now ruined his life and career because of it.

Jesus, Jones fans are starting to look even worse than McGregor fans and I never thought I'd ever say that. I was a HUGE fan of Jones as a fighter for a long time, even after most of his fuck ups I still considered him the GOAT and even gave him the benefit of the doubt with the 'dick pill' excuse. Not any more, the guy is a complete fraud and I hope karma has finally caught up to him.
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Fighting is not like other sports. And in all professional sports...most top tier athletes are on roids. It's no big secret. Even in early days of mma...it was openly the norm. Steriods can't make you the best. They are one of many advantages that can be had in a fight.

The United States military is the most advanced in the world. We put our elite military up against an always inferior less equipped lessor trained outnumbered enemy all the time...is this fair?

Are OUR soldiers cowards because of this?

War is war and is never fair. The objective is to win...and THAT is all.
 
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superpunch said:
The fact is that everyone will always know that there was and is a guy out there that can beat him. Steroids or not, that headkick still landed, and those elbows still gave Cormier a concussion.



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So if so shot Cormier in both knees and finished him off with elbows I'd be the best LHW in the world?

You're an absolute moron. Cheating is cheating. Anyone could beat D.C By cheating.

The way to tell if he is the best is to have an EVEN fight. You obviously can't comprehend that
 
Meaningful Gregory said:
This is true. HAS ANYONE HERE EVEN BEEN IN A REAL FIGHT?

IF YOU LOST A FIGHT, DID YOU TELL YOUR FRIENDS HE ONLY BEAT ME CAUSE HE DOES STERIODS? HOW DID THAT GO?

I'd rather be the guy who wins. In the real world fights are never fair.

Was it fair that Jon Jones came back to fight number one active fighter after 2 year layoff? No!

THEY'RE FIGHTERS, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO MAKE EXCUSES.
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it's not a fight. It's an athletic competition. Have you notice how people don't get shot or stabbed?
 
Meaningful Gregory said:
Fighting is not like other sports. And in all professional sports...most top tier athletes are on roids. It's no big secret. Even in early days of mma...it was openly the norm. Steriods can't make you the best. They are one of many advantages that can be had in a fight.

The United States military is the most advanced in the world. We put our elite military up against an always inferior less equipped lessor trained outnumbered enemy all the time...is this fair?

Our OUR soldiers cowards because of this?

War is war and is never fair. The objective is to win...and THAT is all.
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I can't even comprehend your stupidity. You're comparing MMA to a military. Lol. They are not even comparable.

Your post doesnt show that soldiers are cowards, only that you're a moron.

And it wouldn't be "Our our solders cowards". It would be ARE our soldiers cowards. Again, this is you showing your stupidity.

Just do everyone a favor and shut the hell up
 
Enigma87 said:
I can't even comprehend your stupidity. You're comparing MMA to a military. Lol. They are not even comparable.

Your post doesnt show that soldiers are cowards, only that you're a moron.

And it wouldn't be "Our our solders cowards". It would be ARE our soldiers cowards. Again, this is you showing your stupidity.

Just do everyone a favor and shut the hell up
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Go #### yourself. And remember DC went home crying...not once but TWICE.

Fighting = War
 
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Meaningful Gregory said:
Fighting is not like other sports. And in all professional sports...most top tier athletes are on roids. It's no big secret. Even in early days of mma...it was openly the norm. Steriods can't make you the best. They are one of many advantages that can be had in a fight.

The United States military is the most advanced in the world. We put our elite military up against an always inferior less equipped lessor trained outnumbered enemy all the time...is this fair?

Our OUR soldiers cowards because of this?

War is war and is never fair. The objective is to win...and THAT is all.
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Wrong, there ARE rules to war, Bozo.

The U.S. follows these war rules.

There are also rules to MMA. DC follows these rules.

Terrorists and weak ass fighters (ISIS/Jon Jones) cheat and don't follow the rules, attempting to gain an advantage because they know they are weak and stand no chance when on a level playing field.
 
Meaningful Gregory said:
Fighting is not like other sports. And in all professional sports...most top tier athletes are on roids. It's no big secret. Even in early days of mma...it was openly the norm. Steriods can't make you the best. They are one of many advantages that can be had in a fight.

The United States military is the most advanced in the world. We put our elite military up against an always inferior less equipped lessor trained outnumbered enemy all the time...is this fair?

Our OUR soldiers cowards because of this?

War is war and is never fair. The objective is to win...and THAT is all.
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There are rules in mma for a reason (which Jones broke repeatedly and will be punished for, AGAIN), just like there are rules in war (ever heard of the geneva convention?). I know it's a difficult concept for many younger people to grasp, but principle, character and honor used to be traits that were admired.

In case you haven't figured it out, the only reason some poorly trained shit heads with RPGs and IEDs have had any success against the US military at all is because we follow rules and protocol and they don't.

If we apply what you've said in this thread to a real war, it sounds like you'd be fine hiding behind women and children and bombing your own people if it meant you'd have a better chance at winning. Sounds like you're also the kind of person who'd pull a weapon on an unarmed person in a street fight. You're just as much of a scumbag as Jones if not worse.
 
Tnellie30 said:
Wrong, there ARE rules to war, Bozo.

The U.S. follows these war rules.

There are also rules to MMA. DC follows these rules.

Terrorists and weak ass fighters (ISIS/Jon Jones) cheat and don't follow the rules, attempting to gain an advantage because they know they are weak and stand no chance when on a level playing field.
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Yea THERE are rules to war my anus. Our country hasn't faced an equal military force since WW2. You don't know what the frick you're talking about.

The objective is to come home victorious. Jon Jones won both fights with incredible ease in a devastating fashion...TWICE.
 
Meaningful Gregory said:
Yea THERE are rules to war my anus. Our country hasn't faced an equal military force since WW2. You don't know what the frick you're talking about.

The objective is to come home victorious. Jon Jones won both fights with incredible ease in a devastating fashion...TWICE.
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Meaningful Gregory said:
Go #### yourself. And remember DC went home crying...not once but TWICE.

Fighting = War

No tears.
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No tears in war? You can't be fucking serious.

Go watch one of your best friends bleed out in your fucking arms when it could've easily been you who took that bullet and never shed a tear about it. You are literally a psychopath and the shit you're saying now is beyond disrespectful, it's downright disgusting. No wonder you're still a Jones fan.
 
45ACP said:
No tears in war? You can't be fucking serious.

Go watch one of your best friends bleed out in your fucking arms when it could've easily been you who took that bullet and never shed a tear about it. You are literally a psychopath and the shit you're saying now is beyond disrespectful, it's downright disgusting. No wonder you're still a Jones fan.
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I'm talking about fighting you idiot. People forget the origins of this sport. It's supposed to be the closest simulation of a real STREET fight. Fighting isn't tennis, it isn't golf, it isn't ballet.

You do whatever it takes to win. Real fighters don't cry like cowards like DC did. DC will never be a GOAT nor a real champion.

#PAPER
 
How did this Gregory guy get 800+ posts out in two months without getting banned?

Or is the trolling a recent phenomena?
 
Meaningful Gregory said:
I'm talking about fighting you idiot. People forget the origins of this sport. It's supposed to be the closest simulation of a real STREET fight. Fighting isn't tennis, it isn't golf, it isn't ballet.

You do whatever it takes to win. Real fighters don't cry like cowards like DC did. DC will never be a GOAT nor a real champion.

#PAPER
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Whatever it takes to win, including cheat. It seems like your only real problem with DC is that he showed emotion. Hiding your emotions because you're afraid of what others might think of you is the definition of a coward.

You're insecure and you're a scumbag, plain and simple.
 
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