Cormier is still a paper champion, no. 2 in the world

[The Cysko Kid]

Yeah. Lance Armstrong won all those races too but were any of them really legit?

 

[Meaningful Gregory]

The fact is that everyone will always know that there was and is a guy out there that can beat him. Steroids or not, that headkick still landed, and those elbows still gave Cormier a concussion.

AGREED, either way I'd much rather be Jon Jones than cry me a river DC.

 

[gotBooched]

Wrong. If you are in a race and you opponent takes a short-cut and wins did he really beat you?

Good analogy

 

[Chuck]

Fuck Jones....
He knew all along that he couldn't guarantee a win on a level playing field with DC.
I would have liked to have seen them fight once without any grey areas.

 

[ShreddinMMA]

It's more like if your opponent takes steroids and runs 20 mph and you run 18 mph, did he still run faster than you?

Cormier might be the best natural 205er. But he's not the best 205er.

So basically, you just admitted Cormier is better than Jones if Jones didn't cheat.

Not making a very convincing argument here.

 

[Ely Slade]

Ok. He still won all those fights and no other man could beat him.

Cormier is the #1 LHW that just got knocked out cold

You clearly have more confidence in Jones than he has in himself. He didn't believe he could naturally! He is mentally weak!

 

[compressed]

DC beat Gus without controvercy. Beat Rumble without help.

 

[mangokush]

To be honest the Jon Jones "wins" against DC should both be NC due to steroids.

Need to see a clean Jones against DC.

 

[Deleted member 409801]

I'm a fan, but some of these people are absolutely delusional in their defense of Jones. Jones is an obvious cheater, his victories are tainted because of that. Getting caught once is one thing where I can see how people will buy his excuses, but getting caught multiple times puts him in rare company with the likes of Barnett, Belfort, and Sonnen.

This^

Barnett , Belfort , Sonnen, Jones

 

[Limbo Pete]

Wrong. If you are in a race and you opponent takes a short-cut and wins did he really beat you?

Such a basic concept... yet so elusive to some.....

 

[Sosua]

The fact is that everyone will always know that there was and is a guy out there that can beat him. Steroids or not, that headkick still landed, and those elbows still gave Cormier a concussion.

He cheated, is a cheater and dirty as fuck.

No doubt he has hurt Cormiers career almost as much as his own but if you think a young guy like Jones juicing up a storm to take on a guy much older than him is a clean win... you've got rocks in your head.

 

[Towerworld]

Cormier is the best natural 205er in the world. But he's not the best 205er in the world.

You're automatically the loser of the fight once you cheat so no DC is the best 205ee.

 

[IamStryker]

It's more like if you take adderall and win. Then, yes, you are in fact a better chess player on adderall.

The point is that cheating nullifies the accomplishment.

 

[Parapikoo]

The fact is that everyone will always know that there was and is a guy out there that can beat him. Steroids or not, that headkick still landed, and those elbows still gave Cormier a concussion.

Come on... think about it. Without PEDs he might might get ragdolled in the clinch by Cormier or gas in a couple of rounds.

He may not be the superhuman athlete that you think he is.

All his previous wins come into question.

 

[Dorkman]

You do realize steroids will make that kick, and elbows land quicker, and harder than they would if he wasn't on them right? And would have let him prepare better due to the healing factors of anabolic steroids. Do you not see how that most likely changes a lot of interactions during their encounter? Hence why the win gets removed, cause it calls to question whether you could have actually pulled it off clean and abiding by the rules.

 

[Oooxente]

The fact is that everyone will always know that there was and is a guy out there that can beat him. Steroids or not, that headkick still landed, and those elbows still gave Cormier a concussion.

Nope!!
ANY claim Jones have,had or will may have in the future is SERIOUSLY TAINTED by being caught 3times by regulatory agencies.

 

[ferrisjso]

Yeah. Lance Armstrong won all those races too but were any of them really legit?

Pretty well documented that everyone was roided so yeah(you'll notice they didn't award his races to anyone else). Best cyclist won.

 

[45ACP]

AGREED, either way I'd much rather be Jon Jones than cry me a river DC.

What?

You'd rather be someone who is so insecure of himself he had to cheat to get where he is (err, was) in his career, has ruined that career due to being a complete sociopath, breaks rules and is such a shitty human being he loses huge sponsorship deals because of it, breaks the law repeatedly, crashes into and injures innocent people with no concern for anyone but himself, all while initially being fake as fuck and an enormous hypocrite bragging about things like snitching on kids for smoking weed and having bible verse tattoos until his true character is inevitably revealed?

You'd rather be that person than an olympic champion, family man, and best fighter in the world against anyone who isn't cheating, with an extremely successful career who will be able to continue that success for years to come if he so choses, and even after retirement will have numerous opportunities at his fingertips, based on the simple fact that he got publicly emotional after pouring his heart and soul into something and being genuinely and understandably disappointed he didn't accomplish what he'd hoped to? Not to mention the fact the most likely reason he didn't accomplish it was because his opponent was cheating?

Speaks volumes to your character. You're going to spend the last years of your life miserable and alone if you're not that way already.

 

[drbolony]

"hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate"

 

[SG123]

The fact is that everyone will always know that there was and is a guy out there that can beat him. Steroids or not, that headkick still landed, and those elbows still gave Cormier a concussion.

Serious question, in other areas of your life how stupid are you?

Are you generally at this level or retardation or do you save it all up for Sherdog?