Considering Voluntary Celibacy

MikeMcMann said:
Well no need to leave this question hanging when we have our local expert in this field.

Calling @Zer
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I'm banned from the catholic church bro. Had to turn in my badge and my gun and everything.
 
MikeMcMann said:
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How's that?
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Respect the effort
<mma4>
 
Those fucking sex robots are almost to the point where they make women obsolete.

Another decade and they will change their ways when men don’t need to put up with their shit anymore.
 
Pugilistic said:
I'm sure I'll get called an Incel or a MTGOW weirdo but I'm coming from a different place than those people. Well I'm not trying to be totally celibate because that would be ludicrous. But I realized how much of a waste of time and energy chasing pussy has been.

This conclusion comes from a combination of several reflections
  • I been there done that
  • Getting laid takes too much time and work and as a manlet I have to work extra hard
  • The net result of it is emotional emptiness
  • Chicks catch feelings and try to guilt-trip you
  • They also tend to be vain and uninteresting
  • My experiences and observations with relationships have left me disillusioned
  • That time and effort is better spent on learning something new, traveling, and making money.
[*]While it feels good, sex is one of those "I been there, done that" kind of things. I'm more interested in more extreme highs and novel experiences (for me surfing, sky-diving, drugs, traveling, etc), as well as working towards cultivating myself into a better person, whatever that may mean.

[*]My looks and game aren't good enough that I can approach and take a woman home within a reasonable time frame. It would take me a long time for me to convince a drunk chick at a bar to go home with me and it's never a guarantee. At this point in my life, that time is better spent on sleep.

[*]And honestly, unless I have a deep connection with the girl, I tend to find sex to be a pretty emotionally empty affair. I'm only doing it because of my physiological needs, and I feel bad about that. Physically pleasurable, but emotionally shitty. It makes me feel like I'm using women as a hole to fuck, and that is not the kind of person I want to be.

[*]I always try to be honest about my intentions. I never want to lie or mislead people, but some of these chicks catch feelings and they try to make me feel like a shitty person for being honest about not wanting anything serious than the occasional booty call. And it works. I do feel like an asshole even though I was honest from the get-go.

[*]My slew of negative experiences with dating and relationships has disillusioned me from dating or finding a woman I connect with. I don't want to villainize women since I know it's not just them. My last relationship really put the nail in the coffin for my wanting a serious relationship. I've seen so many people around me cheat, saw so many toxic relationships, and I encountered more crazy chicks than I'd like. When my friends complain about the issues they have with their girlfriends, I can't help but think, 'I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that shit.'

[*]I live in a city, in many people's opinions, which has one of the highest ratio of hot chicks per capita. But I think it also comes with the price of extreme vanity and general brain-deadness (that even a word?). Everybody is obsessed with how they look. They also have their heads buried in their phones all the time. This is a trait prevalent across the board but women in their 20s and early 30s are the most egregious offenders. They are physically attractive but they are also more concerned with how their selfies look on instagram than anything else. Women complain about how they're objectified but honestly they do it to themselves. A lot of these people tie their sense of worth with how good they look. Some of these chicks might as well be walking, talking sex-dolls. They look plastic and are just as brain-dead.

[*]The probability of me meeting a woman who I can be really interested in seems pretty low. I have met incredible women before, but they are extremely rare. When people ask me why I don't have a girlfriend, a part of me wants to say, "I haven't met a woman who's an actual human being."

I used to think monks are stupid for denying their nature but I think they have a point.

Becoming celibate seems like a clear cut way to clear out a lot of this bullshit so I can focus entirely on bettering myself and have deeper connections with the people without sex getting in the way. I have a lot of female friends now but I also have lost potential friendships in the past because I tried too hard to bang. I can't objectify women if I don't see them as sexually viable candidates in the first place.

As the old adage goes, "Never say never." Perhaps someday I will meet somebody who will blow my socks off with how amazing she is and I will take back everything I say here. But until then, I'm not giving much thought to meeting chicks.

I realize I can't be 100% celibate because physical needs are a reality. If I can get laid without effort, I will probably go through with it. Wanking only does so much and I get horny quite often due to my lifestyle. I rarely drink, eat healthy, sleep earlier, and I work out which ironically makes me hornier. Wish there was a way to subdue this part of me in a healthy way.

Thoughts on voluntary celibacy?
Tips on reducing horniness welcome.
In before jokes about my celibacy being "voluntary" or me being gay.
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Everything you do in life, from making money, right down to creating an account on Sherdog to troll, is about getting laid. Everything. The whole fucking planet is based on life and evolution. You can't evolve if you can't knock a kid out. You are FAILING in life!
 
Please

Turn down an 8+ sure thing then talk about Voluntary Celibacy.

It's easy to diet when there's no food
It's anothet thing when there's a 5* meal in front of you
 
Pugilistic said:
I'm sure I'll get called an Incel or a MTGOW weirdo but I'm coming from a different place than those people. Well I'm not trying to be totally celibate because that would be ludicrous. But I realized how much of a waste of time and energy chasing pussy has been.

This conclusion comes from a combination of several reflections
  • I been there done that
  • Getting laid takes too much time and work and as a manlet I have to work extra hard
  • The net result of it is emotional emptiness
  • Chicks catch feelings and try to guilt-trip you
  • They also tend to be vain and uninteresting
  • My experiences and observations with relationships have left me disillusioned
  • That time and effort is better spent on learning something new, traveling, and making money.
[*]While it feels good, sex is one of those "I been there, done that" kind of things. I'm more interested in more extreme highs and novel experiences (for me surfing, sky-diving, drugs, traveling, etc), as well as working towards cultivating myself into a better person, whatever that may mean.

[*]My looks and game aren't good enough that I can approach and take a woman home within a reasonable time frame. It would take me a long time for me to convince a drunk chick at a bar to go home with me and it's never a guarantee. At this point in my life, that time is better spent on sleep.

[*]And honestly, unless I have a deep connection with the girl, I tend to find sex to be a pretty emotionally empty affair. I'm only doing it because of my physiological needs, and I feel bad about that. Physically pleasurable, but emotionally shitty. It makes me feel like I'm using women as a hole to fuck, and that is not the kind of person I want to be.

[*]I always try to be honest about my intentions. I never want to lie or mislead people, but some of these chicks catch feelings and they try to make me feel like a shitty person for being honest about not wanting anything serious than the occasional booty call. And it works. I do feel like an asshole even though I was honest from the get-go.

[*]My slew of negative experiences with dating and relationships has disillusioned me from dating or finding a woman I connect with. I don't want to villainize women since I know it's not just them. My last relationship really put the nail in the coffin for my wanting a serious relationship. I've seen so many people around me cheat, saw so many toxic relationships, and I encountered more crazy chicks than I'd like. When my friends complain about the issues they have with their girlfriends, I can't help but think, 'I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that shit.'

[*]I live in a city, in many people's opinions, which has one of the highest ratio of hot chicks per capita. But I think it also comes with the price of extreme vanity and general brain-deadness (that even a word?). Everybody is obsessed with how they look. They also have their heads buried in their phones all the time. This is a trait prevalent across the board but women in their 20s and early 30s are the most egregious offenders. They are physically attractive but they are also more concerned with how their selfies look on instagram than anything else. Women complain about how they're objectified but honestly they do it to themselves. A lot of these people tie their sense of worth with how good they look. Some of these chicks might as well be walking, talking sex-dolls. They look plastic and are just as brain-dead.

[*]The probability of me meeting a woman who I can be really interested in seems pretty low. I have met incredible women before, but they are extremely rare. When people ask me why I don't have a girlfriend, a part of me wants to say, "I haven't met a woman who's an actual human being."

I used to think monks are stupid for denying their nature but I think they have a point.

Becoming celibate seems like a clear cut way to clear out a lot of this bullshit so I can focus entirely on bettering myself and have deeper connections with the people without sex getting in the way. I have a lot of female friends now but I also have lost potential friendships in the past because I tried too hard to bang. I can't objectify women if I don't see them as sexually viable candidates in the first place.

As the old adage goes, "Never say never." Perhaps someday I will meet somebody who will blow my socks off with how amazing she is and I will take back everything I say here. But until then, I'm not giving much thought to meeting chicks.

I realize I can't be 100% celibate because physical needs are a reality. If I can get laid without effort, I will probably go through with it. Wanking only does so much and I get horny quite often due to my lifestyle. I rarely drink, eat healthy, sleep earlier, and I work out which ironically makes me hornier. Wish there was a way to subdue this part of me in a healthy way.

Thoughts on voluntary celibacy?
Tips on reducing horniness welcome.
In before jokes about my celibacy being "voluntary" or me being gay.
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I'm sort of in the same dilemma as you regarding the emptiness of the sex. Many times a wave of regret and shame immediately surged in me after blowing my load onto a girl's back or face. And then I would ask myself, "Why can't I just settle down and find a nice girl with whom I can genuinely enjoy making love and whose company I can truly cherish?"

It's a question that's been popping up with more frequency ever since I turned 30 this year.
 
Pugilistic said:
I'm sure I'll get called an Incel or a MTGOW weirdo but I'm coming from a different place than those people. Well I'm not trying to be totally celibate because that would be ludicrous. But I realized how much of a waste of time and energy chasing pussy has been.

This conclusion comes from a combination of several reflections
  • I been there done that
  • Getting laid takes too much time and work and as a manlet I have to work extra hard
  • The net result of it is emotional emptiness
  • Chicks catch feelings and try to guilt-trip you
  • They also tend to be vain and uninteresting
  • My experiences and observations with relationships have left me disillusioned
  • That time and effort is better spent on learning something new, traveling, and making money.
[*]While it feels good, sex is one of those "I been there, done that" kind of things. I'm more interested in more extreme highs and novel experiences (for me surfing, sky-diving, drugs, traveling, etc), as well as working towards cultivating myself into a better person, whatever that may mean.

[*]My looks and game aren't good enough that I can approach and take a woman home within a reasonable time frame. It would take me a long time for me to convince a drunk chick at a bar to go home with me and it's never a guarantee. At this point in my life, that time is better spent on sleep.

[*]And honestly, unless I have a deep connection with the girl, I tend to find sex to be a pretty emotionally empty affair. I'm only doing it because of my physiological needs, and I feel bad about that. Physically pleasurable, but emotionally shitty. It makes me feel like I'm using women as a hole to fuck, and that is not the kind of person I want to be.

[*]I always try to be honest about my intentions. I never want to lie or mislead people, but some of these chicks catch feelings and they try to make me feel like a shitty person for being honest about not wanting anything serious than the occasional booty call. And it works. I do feel like an asshole even though I was honest from the get-go.

[*]My slew of negative experiences with dating and relationships has disillusioned me from dating or finding a woman I connect with. I don't want to villainize women since I know it's not just them. My last relationship really put the nail in the coffin for my wanting a serious relationship. I've seen so many people around me cheat, saw so many toxic relationships, and I encountered more crazy chicks than I'd like. When my friends complain about the issues they have with their girlfriends, I can't help but think, 'I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that shit.'

[*]I live in a city, in many people's opinions, which has one of the highest ratio of hot chicks per capita. But I think it also comes with the price of extreme vanity and general brain-deadness (that even a word?). Everybody is obsessed with how they look. They also have their heads buried in their phones all the time. This is a trait prevalent across the board but women in their 20s and early 30s are the most egregious offenders. They are physically attractive but they are also more concerned with how their selfies look on instagram than anything else. Women complain about how they're objectified but honestly they do it to themselves. A lot of these people tie their sense of worth with how good they look. Some of these chicks might as well be walking, talking sex-dolls. They look plastic and are just as brain-dead.

[*]The probability of me meeting a woman who I can be really interested in seems pretty low. I have met incredible women before, but they are extremely rare. When people ask me why I don't have a girlfriend, a part of me wants to say, "I haven't met a woman who's an actual human being."

I used to think monks are stupid for denying their nature but I think they have a point.

Becoming celibate seems like a clear cut way to clear out a lot of this bullshit so I can focus entirely on bettering myself and have deeper connections with the people without sex getting in the way. I have a lot of female friends now but I also have lost potential friendships in the past because I tried too hard to bang. I can't objectify women if I don't see them as sexually viable candidates in the first place.

As the old adage goes, "Never say never." Perhaps someday I will meet somebody who will blow my socks off with how amazing she is and I will take back everything I say here. But until then, I'm not giving much thought to meeting chicks.

I realize I can't be 100% celibate because physical needs are a reality. If I can get laid without effort, I will probably go through with it. Wanking only does so much and I get horny quite often due to my lifestyle. I rarely drink, eat healthy, sleep earlier, and I work out which ironically makes me hornier. Wish there was a way to subdue this part of me in a healthy way.

Thoughts on voluntary celibacy?
Tips on reducing horniness welcome.
In before jokes about my celibacy being "voluntary" or me being gay.
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If it makes you feel better I always thought you might be an incel.
 
Pugilistic said:
Why are you so interested in Korean chicks? They're hot sure, but stay away from them imo.
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Cuz back when I had BJJ classes I almost always pass by them while commuting to the gym. Here they were, all PDA while I was all sweaty getting into another bro's guard. This was when Korean dramas were at its peak in the Philippines.
 
I don't understand why guys think it's focus on your career and self improvement OR a relationship.

Why not both?
 
I feel you my friend.

A couple of months ago I separated from a 7 years relationship (in pretty awesome terms) and I decided to not jump in bed with the first girl that crossed my path... I think is really healthy.
Also has been trying to do nofap (no masturbation or porn) for the last 6 months or so and it is really good... though but awesome results overall.

Now Im dating a girl I really like and sex is an amazing experience.

Sex is everywhere and it kind of make us sick in excess.
 
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