Considering Voluntary Celibacy

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I'm sure I'll get called an Incel or a MTGOW weirdo but I'm coming from a different place than those people. Well I'm not trying to be totally celibate because that would be ludicrous. But I realized how much of a waste of time and energy chasing pussy has been.

This conclusion comes from a combination of several reflections
  • I been there done that
  • Getting laid takes too much time and work and as a manlet I have to work extra hard
  • The net result of it is emotional emptiness
  • Chicks catch feelings and try to guilt-trip you
  • They also tend to be vain and uninteresting
  • My experiences and observations with relationships have left me disillusioned
  • That time and effort is better spent on learning something new, traveling, and making money.
[*]While it feels good, sex is one of those "I been there, done that" kind of things. I'm more interested in more extreme highs and novel experiences (for me surfing, sky-diving, drugs, traveling, etc), as well as working towards cultivating myself into a better person, whatever that may mean.

[*]My looks and game aren't good enough that I can approach and take a woman home within a reasonable time frame. It would take me a long time for me to convince a drunk chick at a bar to go home with me and it's never a guarantee. At this point in my life, that time is better spent on sleep.

[*]And honestly, unless I have a deep connection with the girl, I tend to find sex to be a pretty emotionally empty affair. I'm only doing it because of my physiological needs, and I feel bad about that. Physically pleasurable, but emotionally shitty. It makes me feel like I'm using women as a hole to fuck, and that is not the kind of person I want to be.

[*]I always try to be honest about my intentions. I never want to lie or mislead people, but some of these chicks catch feelings and they try to make me feel like a shitty person for being honest about not wanting anything serious than the occasional booty call. And it works. I do feel like an asshole even though I was honest from the get-go.

[*]My slew of negative experiences with dating and relationships has disillusioned me from dating or finding a woman I connect with. I don't want to villainize women since I know it's not just them. My last relationship really put the nail in the coffin for my wanting a serious relationship. I've seen so many people around me cheat, saw so many toxic relationships, and I encountered more crazy chicks than I'd like. When my friends complain about the issues they have with their girlfriends, I can't help but think, 'I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that shit.'

[*]I live in a city, in many people's opinions, which has one of the highest ratio of hot chicks per capita. But I think it also comes with the price of extreme vanity and general brain-deadness (that even a word?). Everybody is obsessed with how they look. They also have their heads buried in their phones all the time. This is a trait prevalent across the board but women in their 20s and early 30s are the most egregious offenders. They are physically attractive but they are also more concerned with how their selfies look on instagram than anything else. Women complain about how they're objectified but honestly they do it to themselves. A lot of these people tie their sense of worth with how good they look. Some of these chicks might as well be walking, talking sex-dolls. They look plastic and are just as brain-dead.

[*]The probability of me meeting a woman who I can be really interested in seems pretty low. I have met incredible women before, but they are extremely rare. When people ask me why I don't have a girlfriend, a part of me wants to say, "I haven't met a woman who's an actual human being."

I used to think monks are stupid for denying their nature but I think they have a point.

Becoming celibate seems like a clear cut way to clear out a lot of this bullshit so I can focus entirely on bettering myself and have deeper connections with the people without sex getting in the way. I have a lot of female friends now but I also have lost potential friendships in the past because I tried too hard to bang. I can't objectify women if I don't see them as sexually viable candidates in the first place.

As the old adage goes, "Never say never." Perhaps someday I will meet somebody who will blow my socks off with how amazing she is and I will take back everything I say here. But until then, I'm not giving much thought to meeting chicks.

I realize I can't be 100% celibate because physical needs are a reality. If I can get laid without effort, I will probably go through with it. Wanking only does so much and I get horny quite often due to my lifestyle. I rarely drink, eat healthy, sleep earlier, and I work out which ironically makes me hornier. Wish there was a way to subdue this part of me in a healthy way.

Thoughts on voluntary celibacy?
Tips on reducing horniness welcome.
In before jokes about my celibacy being "voluntary" or me being gay.
 
Sounds like your close to escortceling. Man needs to get laid so often. But yes semen retention and focusing on yourself is powerful things. Good luck
 
I didn’t read all that, but it sounds like a horrible idea.
 
Enjoy your new #wincel meme.

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Sounds like your close to escortceling. Man needs to get laid so often. But yes semen retention and focusing on yourself is powerful things. Good luck

Semen retention? lol
As for escorts, if I was rich it seems like a logical path to take. I'm poor though
 
I think you mean that you will just stop worrying about it. That means opportunity will start flooding in!
 
Why not just have a part-time girlfriend and see how that goes.

I see my gf maybe 2x a week for short visits and weekends. Leaves time to do all the things you seem to want to do without castrating myself.
 
This conclusion comes from a combination of several reflections
  • I been there done that

I realize this part of me being gay.
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if you weed through all ts's post, you can find the underlying truth.
 
I've been in this exact position before. Start fucking guys and see how it feels.
 
What if you're celibate only heterosexually?

Does that count as cheating?

Probably some Catholic priest loophole.
 
I'm sure I'll get called an Incel or a MTGOW weirdo but I'm coming from a different place than those people. Well I'm not trying to be totally celibate because that would be ludicrous. But I realized how much of a waste of time and energy chasing pussy has been.

This conclusion comes from a combination of several reflections
  • I been there done that
  • Getting laid takes too much time and work and as a manlet I have to work extra hard
  • The net result of it is emotional emptiness
  • Chicks catch feelings and try to guilt-trip you
  • They also tend to be vain and uninteresting
  • My experiences and observations with relationships have left me disillusioned
  • That time and effort is better spent on learning something new, traveling, and making money.
[*]While it feels good, sex is one of those "I been there, done that" kind of things. I'm more interested in more extreme highs and novel experiences (for me surfing, sky-diving, drugs, traveling, etc), as well as working towards cultivating myself into a better person, whatever that may mean.

[*]My looks and game aren't good enough that I can approach and take a woman home within a reasonable time frame. It would take me a long time for me to convince a drunk chick at a bar to go home with me and it's never a guarantee. At this point in my life, that time is better spent on sleep.

[*]And honestly, unless I have a deep connection with the girl, I tend to find sex to be a pretty emotionally empty affair. I'm only doing it because of my physiological needs, and I feel bad about that. Physically pleasurable, but emotionally shitty. It makes me feel like I'm using women as a hole to fuck, and that is not the kind of person I want to be.

[*]I always try to be honest about my intentions. I never want to lie or mislead people, but some of these chicks catch feelings and they try to make me feel like a shitty person for being honest about not wanting anything serious than the occasional booty call. And it works. I do feel like an asshole even though I was honest from the get-go.

[*]My slew of negative experiences with dating and relationships has disillusioned me from dating or finding a woman I connect with. I don't want to villainize women since I know it's not just them. My last relationship really put the nail in the coffin for my wanting a serious relationship. I've seen so many people around me cheat, saw so many toxic relationships, and I encountered more crazy chicks than I'd like. When my friends complain about the issues they have with their girlfriends, I can't help but think, 'I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that shit.'

[*]I live in a city, in many people's opinions, which has one of the highest ratio of hot chicks per capita. But I think it also comes with the price of extreme vanity and general brain-deadness (that even a word?). Everybody is obsessed with how they look. They also have their heads buried in their phones all the time. This is a trait prevalent across the board but women in their 20s and early 30s are the most egregious offenders. They are physically attractive but they are also more concerned with how their selfies look on instagram than anything else. Women complain about how they're objectified but honestly they do it to themselves. A lot of these people tie their sense of worth with how good they look. Some of these chicks might as well be walking, talking sex-dolls. They look plastic and are just as brain-dead.

[*]The probability of me meeting a woman who I can be really interested in seems pretty low. I have met incredible women before, but they are extremely rare. When people ask me why I don't have a girlfriend, a part of me wants to say, "I haven't met a woman who's an actual human being."

I used to think monks are stupid for denying their nature but I think they have a point.

Becoming celibate seems like a clear cut way to clear out a lot of this bullshit so I can focus entirely on bettering myself and have deeper connections with the people without sex getting in the way. I have a lot of female friends now but I also have lost potential friendships in the past because I tried too hard to bang. I can't objectify women if I don't see them as sexually viable candidates in the first place.

As the old adage goes, "Never say never." Perhaps someday I will meet somebody who will blow my socks off with how amazing she is and I will take back everything I say here. But until then, I'm not giving much thought to meeting chicks.

I realize I can't be 100% celibate because physical needs are a reality. If I can get laid without effort, I will probably go through with it. Wanking only does so much and I get horny quite often due to my lifestyle. I rarely drink, eat healthy, sleep earlier, and I work out which ironically makes me hornier. Wish there was a way to subdue this part of me in a healthy way.

Thoughts on voluntary celibacy?
Tips on reducing horniness welcome.
In before jokes about my celibacy being "voluntary" or me being gay.


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You're not supposed to chase pussy in the first place. When you make yourself, your goals, and your money your main priorities it chases you.
 
There is no guy out there, that has actually had sex, who has genuinely thought of sex as "been there, done that."

Try selling your horseshit somewhere else, TS
 
You're going to catch a lot of shit but yeah chasing pussy is a huge waste of time that could be better spent. Of course that's easy for me to say because I'm spectacular and have always gotten laid without really trying so you and I might be coming to this from a different perspective.
 
This place gets stranger by the day.
 
One day you swear off sex

the next you're browsing ebay for fedoras
 
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