Conor with an elite level gas tank at 145

[leatherf4ce]

Edgar's one of those guys that fights better as the fight goes on and when the pain gets dished out. Connor better not overlook him if he plans on doing well.

 

[runnpray]

Edgar and Holloway.

this

 

[runnpray]

What the hell is wrong with his cardio?

His problem was pacing. Nobody can push themselves at their sprinting pace for a marathon.

His sprinting pace was Nate's jogging pace. That is a bit of a cardio issue.

 

[Jimmy jump]

What's with all these crap ''If Conor.....'' threads by all the salty McGregor fans?

 

[Ryan McGizzle]

I don't think cardio was the only reason he lost to Nate.

Conor's flaws
1) Doesn't bother to protect his chin and relies on head movement alone.
2) Major grappling issues (subbed by a 125er and controlled by 2 week Mendes)
3) Doesn't throw set up punches and relies on bombs.
4) Flashy kicks that waste energy

Kid is a great fighter but could be so much better.

 

[Jimmy jump]

His biggest problem is training out of a gym with some fraud black belt and some on roids who thinks moving is the way to win fights.

 

[hoh112]

He wasn't getting 'outgunned' or 'outplayed' in the first round.

Diaz and Mcgregor landed the same percentage of shots. Mcgregor had more sure, but Diaz absorbed his punches, not simply by standing but by rolling with them, countering and getting his own hits in.

He took him down, was able to keep mcgregor out of the gaurd and made mcgregor work more than he should have. He outplayed, he outhustled him.

http://www.fightmetric.com/

First round doesn't matter when you are on the ground in the second like an Irish garden gnome, stiff as a board. How did Mcgregor get there? Wah Wah

wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah

buhh....buhhhh...mcgregor hittted him!

 

[Deleted member 262153]

Lets assume that Conor has an elite level gas tank (which i dont think that he does) at 145 and can go 5 rounds no problem.

Do you see anyone at 145 beating him in this case?

Lets assume Aldo has a 80 inch reach. Would he remain champion for the next 30 years?

 

[own1997]

Diaz and Mcgregor landed the same percentage of shots. Mcgregor had more sure, but Diaz absorbed his punches, not simply by standing but by rolling with them, countering and getting his own hits in.

He took him down, was able to keep mcgregor out of the gaurd and made mcgregor work more than he should have. He outplayed, he outhustled him.

http://www.fightmetric.com/

First round doesn't matter when you are on the ground in the second like an Irish garden gnome, stiff as a board. How did Mcgregor get there? Wah Wah

wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah

buhh....buhhhh...mcgregor hittted him!

McGregor won the first round, therefore wasn't outgunned or outplayed. I doubt Diaz's game plan involved him eating heavy shots.

Having discussions with people on this forum is becoming a more and more laborious task

 

[mikehunt]

 

[Fergelmince]

He wasn't getting 'outgunned' or 'outplayed' in the first round.

too bad he had to come out for the 2nd round.

 

[own1997]

too bad he had to come out for the 2nd round.

Had he not gassed out, then I would think it would be more of the same as the first half. Saying that, it is merely conjecture and speculation and Diaz is worthy of his win. Looking forward to a rematch down the line though

 

[hoh112]

McGregor won the first round, therefore wasn't outgunned or outplayed. I doubt Diaz's game plan involved him eating heavy shots.

Having discussions with people on this forum is becoming a more and more laborious task

WAIT A FIGHTER GOES INTO A FIGHT EXPECTING NOT TO GET HIT? YET THEY ARE IN A FIGHT?

Hold on - Diaz's gameplan....he trained for 3 days and he went in with the skills, mindset and heart that he had! Diaz said in the interview himself he could have avoided more if he was in shape. But if you are telling me a Diaz was not expecting to get hit by heavy shots, you obviously have not seen a diaz fight. Or have you?

Again. HE LOST THE FIGHT. He can win the round. Good for him. Diaz still fought very well in the first round and made even in percentages. HE LOST THE FIGHT. On the ground. In front of millions of people. Exposed his neck did not even defend it and tapped out. Also, that was not a 10-8 round at all if you even go there.

I'm pretty sure Diaz wouldn't mind losing a round as compared to as NOT DEFENDING AT ALL. Shows the difference between both fighters. The dude is a fighter. The differences between them could not have been any more obvious.

 

[Hoop]

well he didn't do much when he was on top of Holloway and he didn't do anything when Mendes was on top of him except as the ref to stand him up while he was getting elbowed in the face

Well, in the Holloway fight he took him down in the 3rd round as he couldn't stand on his leg and controlled him from top. I'm not sure what you mentioned with Mendes says about his cardio.

Wasn't he visibly tired against Mendes?

I didn't think so at the time and looking at it again. After Mendes being in his guard and landing shots - albeit it infrequently - he got straight back up after the sub attempt and put pressure on Mendes before finishing him. Did you think he looked visibly tired?

 

[Fergelmince]

Had he not gassed out, then I would think it would be more of the same as the first half. Saying that, it is merely conjecture and speculation and Diaz is worthy of his win. Looking forward to a rematch down the line though

Yeah, I hate to speculate how bad it would've been had Diaz finished a full camp.

 

[basementdweller]

Well, in the Holloway fight he took him down in the 3rd round as he couldn't stand on his leg and controlled him from top. I'm not sure what you mentioned with Mendes says about his cardio.



I didn't think so at the time and looking at it again. After Mendes being in his guard and landing shots - albeit it infrequently - he got straight back up after the sub attempt and put pressure on Mendes before finishing him. Did you think he looked visibly tired?

well yeah, I didn't watch it today or anything but he looked tired, breathing through his mouth etc.

 

[jimbob27]

His sprinting pace was Nate's jogging pace. That is a bit of a cardio issue.

There was a big difference in the way they were both fighting. Conor was loading up on everything, expecting every single shot of his to be the final blow. Nate isn't like that at all. He throws most of his punches with very little force, only occasionally slipping in more powerful ones when his opponent isn't expecting them.

Conor calls himself a "master of movement" but appears to have very little understanding of the concept of economy of movement, which is pretty damn important in martial arts.

 

[touchedbyjab]

Moving up in weight so quickly hurt his cardio. It's also not a good idea to swing for the fences with every shot. He was not "efficient with his energy."

 

[own1997]

WAIT A FIGHTER GOES INTO A FIGHT EXPECTING NOT TO GET HIT? YET THEY ARE IN A FIGHT?

Hold on - Diaz's gameplan....he trained for 3 days and he went in with the skills, mindset and heart that he had! Diaz said in the interview himself he could have avoided more if he was in shape. But if you are telling me a Diaz was not expecting to get hit by heavy shots, you obviously have not seen a diaz fight. Or have you?

Again. HE LOST THE FIGHT. He can win the round. Good for him. Diaz still fought very well in the first round and made even in percentages. HE LOST THE FIGHT. On the ground. In front of millions of people. Exposed his neck did not even defend it and tapped out. Also, that was not a 10-8 round at all if you even go there.

I'm pretty sure Diaz wouldn't mind losing a round as compared to as NOT DEFENDING AT ALL. Shows the difference between both fighters. The dude is a fighter. The differences between them could not have been any more obvious.

All I see a whole bunch of straw man argumentation skills. My point was pretty simple; McGregor with a full gas tank wasn't outgunned by Diaz in the first one and won that round comfortably. It really isn't that difficult. Anything else is an extension of an argument you've made up.

 

[own1997]

Yeah, I hate to speculate how bad it would've been had Diaz finished a full camp.

I would assume that Nate would be sharper but, then again, I would assume McGregor would make better use of his skills. The path to victory against Nate is there similar to McGregor but I feel McGregor can beat Diaz