Conor never fought against an opponent that avoided the standup match.

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  1. migeru29

    migeru29 Purple Belt

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    Conor KO/TKO when his opponent engage him toe to toe. Only examples where he didn't are ironically when his opponents are good strikers with a good chin (Diaz and a young Max).

    The only example of Conor finishing an opponent that somewhat (not completely) didn't engage him toe to toe was a 2 week notice much smaller fighter (Mendes) but he got beaten after being out of gas.

    In other words you don't have any example of Conors finishing opponents that avoid the striking department.

    So please enlighten me and tell me how exactly is that KO/TKO going to happen if Khabib won't be stupid as Alvarez and others and will avoid the stand up match?
     
  2. Fight Professor

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    Mendes wanted to get to the ground asap.
     
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    This is what's more interesting-

    For anyone who's trained/competed in MMA or wrestling - you know how to do a good sprawl when a guy shoots in on you. Now think of how you would throw an uppercut (or an uppercut-style hook).

    Two completely different, mutually exclusive movements. If you decide to punch, you can't really sprawl in time. Vice versa. So for all these guys saying Conor will hit Khabib on the way in, he better knock him out on literally the first punch, because if he goes for a punch he's 100% going to be on his back. And he won't get up unless the ref or bell saves him.
     
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    Rittsy Red Belt

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    Khabib never fought someone from Crumlin.
     
  5. Final Say

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    Mendes tried and failed

    Alvarez made attempts and was completely hopeless

    Diaz tried to take him down a lot
     
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    loisestrad Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    So, basically what you're saying is that Conor never fought anyone who avoided the stand up (except "somewhat" Mendes), whom Conor finished, and therefore he sucks at finishing fighters who doesn't engage?

    Great logic!
     
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    It's easier said than done. You can't just rush for takedown against Conor without setting it up because he is one of the better counter strikes of history.
     
  8. Sjb1888

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    That's only coz he didn't allow them to avoid it.

    Aldo, Mendes and Alvarez had 100% intention of taking Conor to the ground.
     
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  9. WhosTheBoss

    WhosTheBoss E-Thug Ass-Whooper

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    There’s 10 of these threads a day

    Anyone with a brain understands how this fight goes 99/100 times

    Khabib by mauling .... or Conor by KO within 2 rounds.
     
  10. Jack Reacheround

    Jack Reacheround Never Go Black

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    Pretty sure Mendes took him down at will until he gassed. Had he not been coming off a bender, it would have been 5 rounds of that. And Conor tried to take Diaz down, then got choked.

    Conor is really good. Great stand up, good takedown defense. But he has also had the benefit of favorable matchups for the most part. However, he capitalized on those and should get plenty of credit for it. Except Diaz. He got merc’d by Diaz, then squeezed out a decision in which everyone knew all he had to do was survive 5 rounds and the judges would give it to him.
     
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    I mean it's a fair point, and he never said he sucks at finishing fighters who don't engage.

    We've never seen someone fight Conor who is planning on only fighting on the ground. That could play right into Conor's hands for all we know, or it could be his downfall.
     
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    Dbreiden83080 Danger Zone

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    This is not a wrestling match. It is a fight. Your man is going to have to get inside consistently over and over in the first 10 minutes to get the job done. And he’s going to have to walk through some serious fire to get there.
     
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    Chad Was supposed to be a bad matchup. Jose was supposed to destroy him. How was that a favorable matchup? How was Eddie a favorable matchup another man that was supposed to destroy him? I love the revisionist history.
     
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    Sprawling isn't really Conor's chosen defence to takedowns, he tries to time them coming in with a little spring back followed by a counter.
     
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    Yeah but not like in a desperate way. Anyways he was successful until he got tired. Do you see Khabib getting tired?
     
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    Well scouted..
     
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    nope, watch again
    he gassed because of conor
    lol'd at bender. Conor got up from every take down by himself and beat the hell out of Chad every time they were standing. There would be no five round version of that fight, period.

    Not relevant at all this discussion. But prior to that, Nate took Conor down and got instantly swept and ended up on his back.
     
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    Dbreiden83080 Danger Zone

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    If Khabib is coming in desperate for a takedown the odds of a knockout go way up. He needs to come in with some footwork and technique on the feet. Because he’s facing a man with tons of footwork and technique. Also power..
     
  19. PlatinumAmerican

    PlatinumAmerican Plat Naysh never dies

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    I think the question is khabibs chin can he take the punches without changing anything about his speed or chain grappling wrestling forward pressure - if he starts thinking too much after he gets cracked it’s over for him
     
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    migeru29 Purple Belt

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    Lol Alvarez never even attempted until he realized that didn't hace any business in the striking department
     

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