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Conor having bad cardio is a myth

FlyingDeathKick said:
I mean it was his first pro boxing match and he went into the 12th rd. I've seen boxers in the lighter weight classes get tired before. Usually pros start at 4 rds and then it goes 6, 8, 10 and then championship fights are 12. Also Mayweather poured a ton of pressure on him.

Also according to compubox stats Mcgregor through 430 punches... That's 110 more than Mayweather threw and 1 more than Pacquiao threw in his fight with Mayweather...
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Mayweather carried him though....
 
Poirierfan said:
He also cheats when he gets in trouble, it's like he becomes desperate and will do anything to not be made to look like a loser in people's eyes. The guys a man child, he's probably one of the most insecure celebs I've ever seen.
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Pretty much nailed it.
 
DjolexMTL said:
Not a diss, but when has Conor batantly gassed except for the Diaz fight?
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I think everyone has given multiple examples for you akredy. No need for me to chime in.:)
 
Izzysexboyfriend said:
He’s only gassed in ONE fight and that was his first fight moving up 2 weight classes. It’s easily excusable that he gassed in the first Nate fight, he spent almost 2 rounds butchering Nate and trying to finish him. I think he really just wasn’t prepared to go 5 rounds against a cardio machine and thought he would get rid of Nate early, which wasn’t happening so he mentally broke which led to him gassing.

Then he went 5 grueling rounds with Nate and won the rematch. So
what other fight did he gas? The Khabib fight he was getting grappled for 4 rounds which would happen to any one. The Dustin fight he lost mobility in his leg which led to the KO. He even went 10 rounds with Floyd while having a heavy output throughout the fight.

Just watch the Mendes and Nate 2 fights. Conor having horrible cardio is a myth
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when did conor move up 2 classes an fight at 185 or 205. conor fighting at 170 isnt going up 2 classes cause the contract was to fight at 155.

conor gassed vs khabib, floyd and in both nate fights at the end he was bassed.
 
BBMN said:
Na, man. He did not "move up" two classes. He went from cutting an insane amount of weight, and nearly killing himself in the process, to saying 'fuck it' and more or less cutting a couple pounds to get down to 170. He was like 173 or something in the cage that night... literally the easiest cut he has ever done. Literally.

And then he gassed.

HOW DO WE NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT CUTTING IS YET, GUYS?

True welterweights are often cutting from 180-190, down to 170, then hydrating back up to 180-190 the following day, and that is what they enter the cage at. That is what cutting is. Eating light for a couple days and not drinking water for a day, so you lose 3lbs is not what these guys are typically doing. Yes, there are exceptions to the rule like Edgar and Colby, but no, this is not what Connor is doing when he fought Nate. He simply didn't want to worry about being 155, so he fought at the higher class and avoiding even a moderate cut. He was just a lightweight, refusing to cut to 155, to help his cardio, and it didn't work.
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Correct, McGregor has never been an actual WW in the UFC to this point. We'll see if he's bigger now that he clearly juiced up more than normal (they all do, most do)

But to his credit, he did fight Cerrone and Diaz at 170, both of which did legitimately compete at 170 and had success. So the idea that his cardio was bad "up two classes" is bullshit, correct. But he did fight there and fought two tweeners so he did actually compete there imo, he's just not a "Real WW" size wise.

If McGregor fought a big WW like Khamzat, hypothetically they stood the whole time and didn't even wrestle, yeah he would likely get mogged and son'd in size in the cage.
 
There are things that I would critique about McGregor's game, but cardio has never really been one of them. His cardio WON him the fight against Mendes. He surely gassed against Nathan Diaz, but he expended a lot of energy beforehand. Even against Khabib where he got soundly defeated, the cardio didn't look all too bad to me -- just a beaten man, but he seemed okay stamina-wise.
Izzysexboyfriend said:
He’s only gassed in ONE fight and that was his first fight moving up 2 weight classes. It’s easily excusable that he gassed in the first Nate fight, he spent almost 2 rounds butchering Nate and trying to finish him. I think he really just wasn’t prepared to go 5 rounds against a cardio machine and thought he would get rid of Nate early, which wasn’t happening so he mentally broke which led to him gassing.

Then he went 5 grueling rounds with Nate and won the rematch. So
what other fight did he gas? The Khabib fight he was getting grappled for 4 rounds which would happen to any one. The Dustin fight he lost mobility in his leg which led to the KO. He even went 10 rounds with Floyd while having a heavy output throughout the fight.

Just watch the Mendes and Nate 2 fights. Conor having horrible cardio is a myth
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VAfan said:
it's debatable he even gassed in the first nate fight. accumulated damage tends to make you look tired and he was eating a whole lotta shots.
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He said himself he gassed himself.
 
campbecc said:
Khabib was gassed in the third, he even admitted he made himself tired by letting his emotions get the better of him and fought mad.
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I don't know about that. Conor won the striking in that round, but if you watch it back, Khabib is clearly the fresher fighter. He was quite obviously testing himself on the feet because at that point Conor's power was gone and there was little risk. He certainly did not look at all gassed in the 3rd.
 
He loses fights because he can't keep throwing power shots because he doesn't run or train hard enough and he ends up gassing because his stamina is under developed
 
The problem is Conor's cardio seems to be getting significantly worse. In my eyes, it looked like Conor lost his last two fights because he could no longer keep up with the pace. When Conor "turned into a wrestler" in his last fight, it wasn't because Poirier was hurting him on the feet. Poirier barely landed anything. Conor was exhausted to keep up with the striking exchanges.

I think Conor is done. It's not because his power doesn't translate in the lightweight division or because he became "flat-footed." It's because of his conditioning. I don't know if he can get into striking exchanges where he has throw more than three or four shots without it taking a toll on his gas tank. This is coming from someone who still thinks he is the best striker in the division.
 
He cardio is decent at best, and only when he’s controlling the fight.

Once things start not going his way, he isn’t the kind of guy that you expect to dig deep and rally, he just coasts.
 
The people saying he gassed against Diaz II and Floyd are pretty ridiculous. Try actually looking at the numbers he put out instead before just saying he has a poor gas tank:
  • He threw 322 strikes against Diaz and combined they set the most strikes in history until Max/Kattar (still #2 to this day though)
  • He threw 430 against Floyd
Those are massive numbers. Nearly anybody else would gas at that rate, as did Diaz that fight too. He clearly has a deep gas tank otherwise those numbers would be way less. He's not gassing throwing 30 strikes. THAT would be a bad gas tank.

That's not to say he didn't gas in those fights. He did. But that's because he has a pacing problem. He throws way more than he needs to, in part because he wants to panic his opponents under his pressure.

His gas tank is deep. He just throws it all out there too fast and in unnecessary amounts. That makes it look worse than it really is. It's fine.
 
The champ champ doesn’t need cardio when the left lands… especially at 170…

mark me wurds!
 
First off, he didnt moved up 2 divisions to fight Nate Diaz, he was supposed to fight at 155lbs and ended up fighting "at 170", against a guy that used to fight at 155lbs...did he really moved up 2 weight classes? more like 1 and didnt made the full weight cut, he only went up to 168lbs? If you get two BW's that usually fight at the 150 range to fight without weight cut, that makes it a LW fight, did they really moved up 2 divisions? thats sort of what Conor did...either way, did he gassed in that fight? yes before two rounds he was exhausted, got tagged by a simple 1-2 combination and folded.

There comes the rematch, he did finished the full 5 rounds, was he having decent output the whole fight? no, he did managed his cardio way better, still not that great, but he made it "work".

Floyd fight, iirc he was exhausted by the 6-7th round, made it up to the 10th round, 100% exhausted.

Myth? Doubt it, but its not great, specially at LW where guys can still go full 5 rounds with decent output and he just cant, he went 3 full rounds at FW, not LW.
 
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44 threads of pure trash created by this guy. He’s clipping along with a troll thread a day.
 
No Skill Gap said:
But to his credit, he did fight Cerrone and Diaz at 170, both of which did legitimately compete at 170 and had success.
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I guess my point is that I can't comprehend how folks can think that he would somehow have similar cardio cutting a couple pounds, versus cutting a couple dozen pounds. I honestly feel like it's gonna give me a stroke if I have to tell someone here one more time, that Conor was not in fact getting into the cage at like 190bs when he got smashed by Nate. It's not a complex issue in anyway, and guys here just can't fucking grasp it.

It's like I'm explaining cutting to someone that is just now watching UFC 3, because they're a time traveler and simply don't know better.
 
He pretty consistently drops off around the 7-9 minute mark of his fights. He just doesn't adapt well to be being the nail
 
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