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***Comparing UFC pay to Golfers***

Luvhawky said:
It feels like my point is falling on deaf ears, I am saying you can't answer that without more information. If one of the four major sports has a similar cost structure to the UFC, more so than the LPGA then it would be one of those sports. The fact that you've tied them because of athletes being "contractors" isn't enough to create this comparison.

If an athlete were to get more money based on their sport's current revenue, what would be impacted? Odds are at first it would be funded from profits, but at some point you would fun out of those profits. And if you were to continue funding athletes, what would the next source of funding be (what other aspect of the business would have to receive less funding)? I think the answer to that question would be different for everyone of those sports listed above because of how their business is done. Because they are different sources after profits, their businesses would differ, so which sport would have the most similar answer to the UFC. I believe the answer to that question answers which sport is most similar, not the fact the payroll costs are captured as contractors vs. full time employees.
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NFL player portion of revenues = 48%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_C...ers receive 48% of the,any 17-game NFL season.

NHL player portion of revenues = 50%
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/lig...e collective,percentage is withheld in escrow.

NBA player portion of revenues = 50%
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...9-20-season-dropped-10-83-billion-sources-say
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/10/1...w-cba-players-want-money-for-retired-players/

MLB player portion of revenues = 47%
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...haring-fight-coronavirus-pandemic/3110292001/

UFC fighter portion of revenues = 16 - 20%
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/06/jorge-masvidal-questions-ufc-revenue-share-dana-white
https://www.lowkickmma.com/ufc-paid...o a report from,total $900 million in revenue.

PGA player portion of revenues = ~14 - 28%
IN 2011 PGA reported revenues any where between 1 - 2B and total purses were $279M
https://www.forbes.com/sites/monteb...not-for-profit-money-machine/?sh=4f758d415733
https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.ATR856.html
 
Corona said:
Womens MMA cant even be compared to Womens golf. Women golfers are actually good, and occasionally hot.


This


Compared to this.

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yeah that's my point my dude, top 10 UFC male fighters are taking home less than a top 50 LPGA

hahah
 
Tomorrow's thread; Comparing UFC undercard fighters pay to Russian oligarchs
 
HereticBD said:
What makes you think Golf is niche? Because you don't like it?

There's a reason no UFC fighter is ever going to be a bigger name than Tiger Woods.
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Arnold palmer the conor of golfing has his own drink too
 
wlu.29 said:
NFL player portion of revenues = 48%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Collective_Bargaining_Agreement#:~:text=Players receive 48% of the,any 17-game NFL season.

NHL player portion of revenues = 50%
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/lightning/2020/07/03/what-is-the-nhl-escrow-system-and-why-is-it-relevant-right-now/#:~:text=Under terms of the collective,percentage is withheld in escrow.

NBA player portion of revenues = 50%
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...9-20-season-dropped-10-83-billion-sources-say
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/10/1...w-cba-players-want-money-for-retired-players/

MLB player portion of revenues = 47%
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...haring-fight-coronavirus-pandemic/3110292001/

UFC fighter portion of revenues = 16 - 20%
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/06/jorge-masvidal-questions-ufc-revenue-share-dana-white
https://www.lowkickmma.com/ufc-paid-fighters-16-percent-2019-revenue/#:~:text=According to a report from,total $900 million in revenue.

PGA player portion of revenues = ~14 - 28%
IN 2011 PGA reported revenues any where between 1 - 2B and total purses were $279M
https://www.forbes.com/sites/monteb...not-for-profit-money-machine/?sh=4f758d415733
https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.ATR856.html
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Are you actively not trying to understand my point? Payroll is only one component of cost structure, what if all the sports above have the same operating profit margin, despite different % of rev for payroll?
 
Luvhawky said:
Are you actively not trying to understand my point? Payroll is only one component of cost structure, what if all the sports above have the same operating profit margin, despite different % of rev for payroll?
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I presented facts to support my points with sources and links, all you have done is say it's not a good comparison without contributing anything substantive
 
Frank McEdgar said:
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Who is that fat ass?
 
wlu.29 said:
I presented facts to support my points with sources and links, all you have done is say it's not a good comparison without contributing anything substantive
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I'm letting you know that payroll as a % of rev isn't enough to draw conclusions. To create a good comparison you need more information. But yet you just recycle the same points with links. If you understood my previous points, you wouldn't expect me to provide sources and links as I am not bringing specific facts to the conversation as much as a framework to help you create a meaningful comparison. Because as it stands, it falls wildly short.
 
Luvhawky said:
I'm letting you know that payroll as a % of rev isn't enough to draw conclusions. To create a good comparison you need more information. But yet you just recycle the same points with links. If you understood my previous points, you wouldn't expect me to provide sources and links as I am not bringing specific facts to the conversation as much as a framework to help you create a meaningful comparison. Because as it stands, it falls wildly short.
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Lol ok hedge fund

Im not doing a business valuation

Im presenting facts comparing two types of athletes (ufc top 10 fighters and top 50 lpga women golfer)

You want to talk deeper that's fine go ahead put something on the board
 
wlu.29 said:
Lol ok hedge fund

Im not doing a business valuation

Im presenting facts comparing two types of athletes (ufc top 10 fighters and top 50 lpga women golfer)

You want to talk deeper that's fine go ahead put something on the board
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Oh, I get it, so you wanted to do a shitty analysis, carry on.
 
wlu.29 said:
NFL player portion of revenues = 48%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Collective_Bargaining_Agreement#:~:text=Players receive 48% of the,any 17-game NFL season.

NHL player portion of revenues = 50%
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/lightning/2020/07/03/what-is-the-nhl-escrow-system-and-why-is-it-relevant-right-now/#:~:text=Under terms of the collective,percentage is withheld in escrow.

NBA player portion of revenues = 50%
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...9-20-season-dropped-10-83-billion-sources-say
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/10/1...w-cba-players-want-money-for-retired-players/

MLB player portion of revenues = 47%
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...haring-fight-coronavirus-pandemic/3110292001/

UFC fighter portion of revenues = 16 - 20%
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/06/jorge-masvidal-questions-ufc-revenue-share-dana-white
https://www.lowkickmma.com/ufc-paid-fighters-16-percent-2019-revenue/#:~:text=According to a report from,total $900 million in revenue.

PGA player portion of revenues = ~14 - 28%
IN 2011 PGA reported revenues any where between 1 - 2B and total purses were $279M
https://www.forbes.com/sites/monteb...not-for-profit-money-machine/?sh=4f758d415733
https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.ATR856.html
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I think what people miss is that the “leagues” have franchises competing with each other. The ufc is a franchise that competes with other franchises / promotions. The cowboys and the yankees pay a much smaller % than the average. Closer to the ufc % than to the average.
 
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