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***Comparing UFC pay to Golfers***

wlu.29 said:
Do UFC fighters/golfers have fully guaranteed contracts? NO

UFC fighters get show/win money, golfers get paid depending on where they finish in that tournament

they're more alike than ufc fighters to mlb/nfl/nba/nhl




a ufc fighter's in the top 10 is pretty short lived, so their potential window to make money is limited compared to how long a female golfer can stay in the top 50
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Pointing out a couple similarities doesn't really mean they are similar. Their cost structure could be wildly different resulting in different margins and such. So, flow-through to the athlete can be wildly different. Not to mention how revenue is generated and by percentage of each channel. There is so much you are just glossing over to drive this comparison home.

Also, not sure why a fighter's shelf life is relevant in this topic. I'd like fighters to make more money, as much as possible. But in the end, not sure shelf life is a real factor here in pay scale, but more so in decision making to become a fighter.
 
Skinnay said:
Backroom bonuses are not mythical and neither are ppv points which can make up the majority of a fighters purse in some instances.
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tell me how many of the guys that i mentioned in my OP, guys that are top 10 actually get PPV points?

backroom bonuses are unreliable, unverifiable, show me some data then we will work with that
 
Luvhawky said:
Pointing out a couple similarities doesn't really mean they are similar. Their cost structure could be wildly different resulting in different margins and such. So, flow-through to the athlete can be wildly different. Not to mention how revenue is generated and by percentage of each channel. There is so much you are just glossing over to drive this comparison home.

Also, not sure why a fighter's shelf life is relevant in this topic. I'd like fighters to make more money, as much as possible. But in the end, not sure shelf life is a real factor here in pay scale, but more so in decision making to become a fighter.
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never claimed it was a perfect comparison, in the world of sports it's the closest
 
wlu.29 said:
never claimed it was a perfect comparison, in the world of sports it's the closest
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I'm not sure it's the closest. How do LPGA and UFC margins compare? How is their sales mix across channels?

I'm not saying it isn't the closest, I'm saying we don't have nearly enough information to make that determination. And to stand on this hill as it is the closest comparison in sports feels premature based on being in the dark on so many relevant facts.
 
Luvhawky said:
I'm not sure it's the closest. How do LPGA and UFC margins compare? How is their sales mix across channels?

I'm not saying it isn't the closest, I'm saying we don't have nearly enough information to make that determination. And to stand on this hill as it is the closest comparison in sports feels premature based on being in the dark on so many relevant facts.
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is UFC closer to MLB/NFL/NBA/NHL or to LPGA?
 
wlu.29 said:
is UFC closer to MLB/NFL/NBA/NHL or to LPGA?
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It feels like my point is falling on deaf ears, I am saying you can't answer that without more information. If one of the four major sports has a similar cost structure to the UFC, more so than the LPGA then it would be one of those sports. The fact that you've tied them because of athletes being "contractors" isn't enough to create this comparison.

If an athlete were to get more money based on their sport's current revenue, what would be impacted? Odds are at first it would be funded from profits, but at some point you would fun out of those profits. And if you were to continue funding athletes, what would the next source of funding be (what other aspect of the business would have to receive less funding)? I think the answer to that question would be different for everyone of those sports listed above because of how their business is done. Because they are different sources after profits, their businesses would differ, so which sport would have the most similar answer to the UFC. I believe the answer to that question answers which sport is most similar, not the fact the payroll costs are captured as contractors vs. full time employees.
 
I'm going golfing on Friday afternoon!

No one's paying me a dime, I'm actually happily forking over 50$.
 
pv3Hpv3p said:
I'm going golfing on Friday afternoon!

No one's paying me a dime, I'm actually happily forking over 50$.
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not sure what relevance that has?

people are going to BJJ class, boxing class, muay thai class, paying $100 or more a month
 
It's a like double edged sword. On one hand, UFC fighters get paid shit, especially compared to boxers. On the other hand, more importantly so, MMA fighters have way bigger opportunities to get into the UFC relatively easily if they are skilled. Compared to boxing, there are so many different boxers and gyms out there, the chance of you getting to professional boxing career where you are making big bucks is very small.

Mma fighters might get paid less, but they have an easier road to a professional ufc career compared to a boxer trying to go for a professional career.

For example, if someone like Ngannou was to start a boxing career, he would never make it far enough to actually make proper money, especially at his age. Compared to UFC, it took him just a few years starting MMA to becoming UFC HW champ. He even said the same on Rogans podcast, that he was considering boxing, but it's a lot more complicated and harder to succeed as a professional compared an MMA career.

Keeping those things in mind, UFC fighters get paid shit but are given opportunities they would never have otherwise so it balances itself out in a way.
 
wlu.29 said:
Do UFC fighters/golfers have fully guaranteed contracts? NO

UFC fighters get show/win money, golfers get paid depending on where they finish in that tournament

they're more alike than ufc fighters to mlb/nfl/nba/nhl




a ufc fighter's in the top 10 is pretty short lived, so their potential window to make money is limited compared to how long a female golfer can stay in the top 50
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The NBA is the only one of those leagues where guaranteed contracts are the norm, aside from stars players get cut pretty often in most sports leagues.
 
Womens MMA cant even be compared to Womens golf. Women golfers are actually good, and occasionally hot.


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