Combating PEDs

Paolo Delutis

Paolo Delutis

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Okay so I have a new theory about how the UFC could combat PEDs if they were serious about getting rid of it and that would be to start getting the gyms involved in the penalties associated with PEDs so for instance if a fighter from AKA is caught with PEDs then the gym will also receive a fine against them just like the fighter will and this will put the onus on the gyms to know what is going on with their guys and to nip this at the butt at the problem which is pre-fight not post fight right now you get introuble for post fight what u should be really get in trouble for what you do pre-fight as well the the gyms need to be more involved in stopping PEDs cuz that's where the PEDs start in training...
 
Paolo Delutis said:
Okay so I have a new theory about how the UFC could combat PEDs if they were serious about getting rid of it and that would be to start getting the gyms involved in the penalties associated with PEDs so for instance if a fighter from AKA is caught with PEDs then the gym will also receive a fine against them just like the fighter will and this will put the onus on the gyms to know what is going on with their guys and to nip this at the butt at the problem which is pre-fight not post fight right now you get introuble for post fight what u should be really get in trouble for what you do pre-fight as well the the gyms need to be more involved in stopping PEDs cuz that's where the PEDs start in training...
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Could do all kinds of things. I think currently the ufc is trying to “slow it down”, but doesn’t want to stop it entirely.

For example, if you wanted you could test every single fighter at a gym immediately if anyone from that gym tests positive. But they don’t.

They could increase testing volume, set required intermittent testing every week once a fighter sounds a bout agreement.

But they don’t.

They just want the image of a clean sport, or that they are doing their best so they can maintain high profile partners like ESPN.
 
Paolo Delutis said:
Okay so I have a new theory about how the UFC could combat PEDs if they were serious about getting rid of it and that would be to start getting the gyms involved in the penalties associated with PEDs so for instance if a fighter from AKA is caught with PEDs then the gym will also receive a fine against them just like the fighter will and this will put the onus on the gyms to know what is going on with their guys and to nip this at the butt at the problem which is pre-fight not post fight right now you get introuble for post fight what u should be really get in trouble for what you do pre-fight as well the the gyms need to be more involved in stopping PEDs cuz that's where the PEDs start in training...
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You have to be completely ignorant to
Believe that the UFC wants all of their fighters to be clean

they are just playing the game to uphold some kind of false image. UFC knows PEDs=better training which equals better fighters and better entertainment overall.
 
That just shelves the cost of drug prevention onto the camps, which would be insanely expensive, more expensive than any reasonable fine they could incur in response to a fighter flagging. Around the clock drug testing is unreasonable and only serves to further delude morons who still think their favorite athlete is drug free. lol I can't even take that seriously. Possibly the best way to go about it would be to house the fighters in bubble like environments until they have to fight, there you can have checkpoints for teams and fighters for any contraband, wouldn't prevent drugs 100% but would severely limit most of it, imo. I don't care for a clean sport though, so that idea is just off the top of my head.
 
That’s a bit harsh. If my roommate goes out and kills somebody should I go to jail too. Afterall I actually lived with the guy. I MUST have known what he was doing every second of the day.

No that is the slipperiest of slopes. One society knows it can’t possibly hope to climb while being fair.

I want peds gone from all sports. But, this isn’t how to do it.And it’s not like the UFC would ever have a say in such matters. At least not on the surface.
 
B-Level said:
You have to be completely ignorant to
Believe that the UFC wants all of their fighters to be clean

they are just playing the game to uphold some kind of false image. UFC knows PEDs=better training which equals better fighters and better entertainment overall.
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It insane how ignorant most sports fans are towards drug usage, but then again it's insane how ignorant most people are in general. The furthest the UFC went to prevent drugs just led to major cards being deleted and fighters having to face state sanctioned punishments preventing them for fighting for a very long time, just money lost to drug testing on top of canceled cards solely to please delusional people. Silly.
 
The cooks are always a few steps ahead. People that get caught are usually just lazy, dumb, or naive. They're all on some shit, bros. Gotta be.
 
Fioretti said:
The cooks are always a few steps ahead. People that get caught are usually just lazy, dumb, or naive. They're all on some shit, bros. Gotta be.
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You could always pop randomly if a sport was really pushing for it, but this just shows that most sports aren't really pushing for it. But yeah, for the most part, morons do get caught because they don't respect the science that goes into it.
 
Blank7 said:
You could always pop randomly if a sport was really pushing for it, but this just shows that most sports aren't really pushing for it. But yeah, for the most part, morons do get caught because they don't respect the science that goes into it.
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Yeah. That's why I said usually. Not everyone who pops is being a moron, but mostly. There's always going to be that occasional "Fuck, nothing I can do" occurrence.
 
Fioretti said:
The cooks are always a few steps ahead. People that get caught are usually just lazy, dumb, or naive. They're all on some shit, bros. Gotta be.
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That's why you got put Jon on a different level. Has access to the best cooks, labs and advice and still keeps popping. I honestly believe if Jon wasn't a fighter the only way he'd make a successful career out of anything was by snitching on people and kissing ass.
 
B-Level said:
You have to be completely ignorant to
Believe that the UFC wants all of their fighters to be clean

they are just playing the game to uphold some kind of false image. UFC knows PEDs=better training which equals better fighters and better entertainment overall.
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I'm not ignorant as I said in my post if they wanted to if they really wanted to get rid of it this is what they would want to do so I'm alluding to the fact that they're not all that serious about it but if they were this could be a potential avenue
 
TempleoftheDog said:
That’s a bit harsh. If my roommate goes out and kills somebody should I go to jail too. Afterall I actually lived with the guy. I MUST have known what he was doing every second of the day.

No that is the slipperiest of slopes. One society knows it can’t possibly hope to climb while being fair.

I want peds gone from all sports. But, this isn’t how to do it.And it’s not like the UFC would ever have a say in such matters. At least not on the surface.
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Well my reason being is that the ped use and gym culture sometimes goes hands and hand we've seen that before and other sports as well as an MMA where members from the same team have been caught with ped use so it's kind of to combat the culture while also combating the usage but I can understand your point of view that you know it's not always Fair
 
Reach4theSky said:
I say let them juice..

Better fights..

quicker recovery time, which means fighters can fight more frequently..

everyone jacked..

What else do you want!?
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This is all correct. Theyre juicing regardless (most of em anyways)
Humans will always cheat. It's just what we do.
So let them cheat I say bc it produces a better product
 
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Blank7 said:
That just shelves the cost of drug prevention onto the camps, which would be insanely expensive, more expensive than any reasonable fine they could incur in response to a fighter flagging. Around the clock drug testing is unreasonable and only serves to further delude morons who still think their favorite athlete is drug free. lol I can't even take that seriously. Possibly the best way to go about it would be to house the fighters in bubble like environments until they have to fight, there you can have checkpoints for teams and fighters for any contraband, wouldn't prevent drugs 100% but would severely limit most of it, imo. I don't care for a clean sport though, so that idea is just off the top of my head.
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It's not that it would push the cost of testing which really isn't that much to the coaches or anything that it causes them to get to be more involved than what their Fighters are doing so for instance the fighter wants to join their gym who had a ped history then maybe they don't get to join the gym because there's a chance that they bring that element to their gym which would cost them a penalty or if like you know there's Fighters that are using inside their gym the coaches have to make a decision now to whether or not they're going to allow it or not because it also affects them versus how the current setup is where everyone just hopes nobody gets caught and you know even if they do get caught whatever the gym survives and the fighter gets dinked but the gym was involved in it the gym knew what was going on or allowed what they allowed
 
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