Crime Cohen pleads guilty, says he lied

splendica said:
As far as I see it, and as far as most Republican supporters see it, this whole Mueller investigation has been a witch hunt/red herring misdirection from the actual Russia collusion of Obama, Hillary and the Democrat party. This is a deep state operation IMO, little doubt about it.
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Haahahahahahahhahhahahahah you are serious too.

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jamel said:
Yall mf'er's really want a Pence Presidency huh?

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Lord Voldemort been too gotdamn quiet.
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Nah, it would take a year to impeach and Pence would be the most insignificant lame duck in history. The entire administration is joke and the most unqualified in history.
Pence and the remaining turds would slip down the drain to another sewer someplace. Romney will be standing there as the GOP savior still wanting to get more money for horses and bayonets.
 
MC OverPressure said:
Talking bets on the next distraction tweet.
Gays? Immigrants? Football players? An unexpected, out of nowhere pivot to lock her (Hillary) up?
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He will try to act like he is going to do something about Russia besides not go to dinner with Putin lol.
 
MMAViewer said:
He will try to act like he is going to do something about Russia besides not go to dinner with Putin lol.
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I think it's far too late to fool anyone into believing he can "lead" on Russia unless it's the line to get bent over.
 
MC OverPressure said:
I think it's far too late to fool anyone into believing he can "lead" on Russia unless it's the line to get bent over.
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It’s concerning how the left is so frequently fantasizing about Trump and Putin engaging in homosexual acts. The level of obsession is just bizarre.
 
rokzilla said:
It’s concerning how the left is so frequently fantasizing about Trump and Putin engaging in homosexual acts. The level of obsession is just bizarre.
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The difference between fantasy and parody is hard and difficult to get a handle on. But once you grasp it, you can fondle the words and discover the associated mental imagery together in an orgy of comprehension.

In the case of snowflakes v. humor, I find rokzilla's argument to be without merit and so the judgement goes to the defendant, humor.
 
MC OverPressure said:
The difference between fantasy and parody is hard and difficult to get a handle on. But once you grasp it, you can fondle the words and discover the associated mental imagery together in an orgy of comprehension.

In the case of snowflakes v. humor, I find rokzilla's argument to be without merit and so the judgement goes to the defendant, humor.
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Parody- making a joke here and there.
Fantasy- making a joke about Trump and Putin engaging in homosexual acts in every thread.
 
splendica said:
@Throttlehead

The fact of the matter is that a dossier funded by the opposition presidential nominee's (and former SOS) campaign, without substantiated claims, was the impetus for the Mueller investigation. Not only this, but most of the principle persons involved were documented having an anti-Trump bias.

It's a hit job.
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False. Read here. Its just more the crazy right Fox News spewing BS.
Mr. Trump and Ms. Sanders repeated a false claim the president made in May, when he said the F.B.I. began investigating possible links between his presidential campaign and Russian election interference based on a dossier compiled by Christopher Steele, a former British spy.

The New York Times has reported — and Republicans who hold the majority vote on the House Intelligence Committee have concluded — that the investigation began in July 2016 and was prompted by the actions of George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign.

Mr. Papadopoulos told an Australian diplomat in May 2016 that Russia had political “dirt” on Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential candidate. Australian officials then alerted their American counterparts of the conversation with Mr. Papadopoulos.

The information provided by Mr. Steele did not reach F.B.I. officials who were investigating Mr. Trump’s campaign until mid-September of 2016, The Times reported in May

according to previously top-secret documents released by the Trump administration on Saturday. But the application also cited other information.


Also, please point out what has been disproven in the dossier.
 
Fanu said:
hit job by who exactly?
trump owns the presidency (and has employed his family onto various positions) while republican party (which supports trump) controls the congress and senate

trump said he would drain the swamp and yet the only swamp going around is the one underneath his ground
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His reply will be "deep state".
 
InternetHero said:
Cohen lies every-time he opens his mouth, but I wonder, who hired him and why?

I think the neighborhood cat is more likely to be colluding with Russia at this point, but also know that Donald Trump is not a good guy, not up for debate.

Should he be President? Not in my estimation. Should we "find something," to overcome an election? Not in my estimation.

Could Donald Trump end his own Presidency by putting both shoes in his mouth? He does that everyday, and even in today's jaded and hyper politicized America, that would and should probably be the reason to step down.

I hope when the end comes, it somehow does something good for the US of A and faith in many things, not just faith in our favorite tribe getting a "W" and end-zone dance over their largely fictional enemies.
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Then you didn't read all the articles. If Cohen lies every time he opens his mouth to Mueller from his agreement and forward, he will spend the rest of his life in prison.
 
rokzilla said:
Parody- making a joke here and there.
Fantasy- making a joke about Trump and Putin engaging in homosexual acts in every thread.
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Well you do have to balance out the Kenyan Muslim with a transgender wife talk from the right.

So, saying Putin bent him over in the art of the deal is pretty mild.
 
Tired of winning?
 
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Throttlehead said:
Then you didn't read all the articles. If Cohen lies every time he opens his mouth to Mueller from his agreement and forward, he will spend the rest of his life in prison.
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Just because he signed a deal, does not mean everything he says from that point forward is taken as fact. Things that can't be proven, will still be a matter of he said/he said. He doesn't get to accuse Trump of everything under the sun now, and Trump must admit to it or be taken as lying about it, because Cohen said otherwise.
 
Trump controls the senate and DOJ. Nothing will happen.
 
HockeyBjj said:
Yeah, it definitely comes across as a perjury trap. What Cohen admitted he lied about under oath, was that plans for Trump tower in Moscow didn't end January 2016, but rather June 2016 further into his presidential campaign. That's it.

The business meeting in general isn't actually illegal, but the lying to cover it up so hard and avoid the bad pr is. And that is what they got Cohen on here and may get Trump with with his written under oath answers.

I do admit it raises the question of why lie so hard to hide a legal thing? Was it just because of narcissism and thinking they could do whatever they wanted and not get caught? Or is it more?
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I find this term 'perjury trap' funny as it is being applied far too often with regards to Trump.

A Perjury Trap would be if you had a witness you knew or thought was lying but you accepted their testimony anyway and then when you questioned the accused you knew if he answered honestly you would be able to prosecute him for perjury, even though he was truthful by using your witness testimony.

So the trap is set because the accused is getting prosecuted if he admits the crime ...or he denies it (due to the trap).

It is not a perjury trap if you simply cannot lie because they know the truth.
 
MikeMcMann said:
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I find this term 'perjury trap' funny as it is being applied far too often with regards to Trump.

A Perjury Trap would be if you had a witness you knew or thought was lying but you accepted their testimony anyway and then when you questioned the accused you knew if he answered honestly you would be able to prosecute him for perjury, even though he was truthful by using your witness testimony.

So the trap is set because the accused is getting prosecuted if he admits the crime ...or he denies it (due to the trap).

It is not a perjury trap if you simply cannot lie because they know the truth.
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They invent terms that are transparently self serving.
The mark of honesty.
 
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