Crime Cohen pleads guilty, says he lied

[MikeMcMann]

Yall mf'er's really want a Pence Presidency huh?

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Lord Voldemort been too gotdamn quiet.

Assuming Trump does fall...
Pence would have no power for the remainder of his term without Congress and he would not win the next election but the Repub would probably have to run him regardless. They will need a squeaky clean, no conflict type to wash away the Trump stain and it would be hard for them to abandon Pence and not give him his chance.

 

[foxnoob]

Don't worry everyone, this wasn't a witch hunt. Mueller and co will subpoena every business associate, lawyer of Trump's etc. Not a witch hunt. They went in with good faith to uncover every stone for the good of the democratic republic.

Trump Legal team complains for 18 months that this is a trap.

Steps directly into trap.

lol

 

[method115]

Assuming Trump does fall...
Pence would have no power for the remainder of his term without Congress and he would not win the next election but the Repub would probably have to run him regardless. They will need a squeaky clean, no conflict type to wash away the Trump stain and it would be hard for them to abandon Pence and not give him his chance.

I'm confused how would Pence have no power if Trump was impeached? He would be the president at that point. Does he have less power than a normal president because of the way it happened or something?

 

[sickc0d3r]

@Throttlehead

The fact of the matter is that a dossier funded by the opposition presidential nominee's (and former SOS) campaign, without substantiated claims, was the impetus for the Mueller investigation. Not only this, but most of the principle persons involved were documented having an anti-Trump bias.

It's a hit job.

Except Trump wasn't even part of the investigation until he publicly announced his reasons for firing Comey. Here in America, we like Presidents who don't incriminate themselves.
Also, nearly everything in the Dossier has turned out to be accurate.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Parody- making a joke here and there.
Fantasy- making a joke about Trump and Putin engaging in homosexual acts in every thread.

You may choose to ignore the avalanche of building evidence but it is pretty clearly pointing to Trump being the very willing bitch to Putin and Russia and bending over in every way to cultivate that relationship and investments. So the homo-jokes flow naturally and expectedly from that.

I honestly think Trump never really thought he would the Presidency and therefore he was truly just pushing along on what was his Plan A which was to use the Presidential race to signal to the Russians "look how important I am. Look how close i came. You guys needs to invest in Trump Inc.' And then to his surprise he actually won and Trump being Trump did not see the jeopardy that posed instead thought he would just get all the levers of gov't to bend the knee and sweep it all under the rug.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I'm confused how would Pence have no power if Trump was impeached? He would be the president at that point. Does he have less power than a normal president because of the way it happened or something?

Because there is less than 2 years left of this Trump term. The Dem's take the Congress starting in January and will have the House through that election. They will ensure this Trump session, or Pence should he get it handed to him, will be a lame duck session until then.

Why would they do that in a case like this?

Well because Trump's Presidency and therefore the Republican White House, would be illegitimate if this ends up true and him impeached. He should have never made it through the Presidency race and he certainly should not have been allowed to stay if the Repub Senate and COngress had done their EXPECTED job and asked for his tax returns and investigated this stuff as it expected.

So now if you are stuck with Pence, who is inheriting an illegitimate Republican win and you are the Congress you are not going to allow this illegitimate Repub White House to continue to make impactful decisions for the country.

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On another note...
I will now venture out in to speculation realm that if Trump is impeached on this Russian Collusion, which WOULD invalidate any legitimacy of his presidency and if the Dem's also take the Senate in 2020, they will undue much of what Trump has done. His supreme Court justices amongst other things will impeached and undone. Not because they did anything wrong but because they were put in by a POTUS with no legitimacy.

 

[method115]

Because there is less than 2 years left of this Trump term. The Dem's take the Congress starting in January and will have the House through that election. They will ensure this Trump session, or Pence should he get it handed to him, will be a lame duck session until then.

Why would they do that in a case like this?

Well because Trump's Presidency and therefore the Republican White House, would be illegitimate if this ends up true and him impeached. He should have never made it through the Presidency race and he certainly should not have been allowed to stay if the Repub Senate and COngress had done their EXPECTED job and asked for his tax returns and investigated this stuff as it expected.

So now if you are stuck with Pence, who is inheriting an illegitimate Republican win and you are the Congress you are not going to allow this illegitimate Repub White House to continue to make impactful decisions for the country.

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On another note...
I will now venture out in to speculation realm that if Trump is impeached on this Russian Collusion, which WOULD invalidate any legitimacy of his presidency and if the Dem's also take the Senate in 2020, they will undue much of what Trump has done. His supreme Court justices amongst other things will impeached and undone. Not because they did anything wrong but because they were put in by a POTUS with no legitimacy.

I see what you mean but he's still the president to pretend he would have no power is silly. He could still use EO's to get stuff done.

 

[bufetadanacara]

He's in prison right?

 

[TheComebackKid]

Because there is less than 2 years left of this Trump term. The Dem's take the Congress starting in January and will have the House through that election. They will ensure this Trump session, or Pence should he get it handed to him, will be a lame duck session until then.

Why would they do that in a case like this?

Well because Trump's Presidency and therefore the Republican White House, would be illegitimate if this ends up true and him impeached. He should have never made it through the Presidency race and he certainly should not have been allowed to stay if the Repub Senate and COngress had done their EXPECTED job and asked for his tax returns and investigated this stuff as it expected.

So now if you are stuck with Pence, who is inheriting an illegitimate Republican win and you are the Congress you are not going to allow this illegitimate Repub White House to continue to make impactful decisions for the country.

-------

On another note...
I will now venture out in to speculation realm that if Trump is impeached on this Russian Collusion, which WOULD invalidate any legitimacy of his presidency and if the Dem's also take the Senate in 2020, they will undue much of what Trump has done. His supreme Court justices amongst other things will impeached and undone. Not because they did anything wrong but because they were put in by a POTUS with no legitimacy.

Libs are rabid, out for blood

 

[HereticBD]

I see what you mean but he's still the president to pretend he would have no power is silly. He could still use EO's to get stuff done.

Wishful thinking on his part. The House will make things problematic for Trump(he ain't getting impeached), but this idea that the Dems will run the show now, and the Republicans will be absolutely powerless, is hilarious. As are the musings of Trump's Presidency being deemed invalid, no matter what happens.

 

[kenetics]

Actually a lot of them do, this is what baffles me.

Others are just CT nutters and hard racists.

Umm, have you seen the Trump rallies interviews? Very low IQ lol.

 

[zebby23]

Are people still on here defending Trump? I haven’t been on much and was wondering that the latest right wing defenses are?

 

[zebby23]

Libs are rabid, out for blood

Out for justice more like it. God, imagine if the roles were reversed and a dem was under investigation like Trump. You lunatic right wingers would be so rabid you might start shooting each other indiscriminately. But since daddy has an R in front of his name you guys act like it’s all the libs fault. lol

 

[Andy Capp]

If you are having problems right now, I understand why.

And since you seem to have "erect" problems, this one's for you:

We found that support for Trump in the 2016 election was higher in areas that had more searches for topics such as “erectile dysfunction.” Moreover, this relationship persisted after accounting for demographic attributes in media markets, such as education levels and racial composition, as well as searches for topics unrelated to fragile masculinity, such as “breast augmentation” and “menopause.”

How Donald Trump appeals to men secretly insecure about their manhood

That's fuckin' awesome. I love science.

Edit: in this case I'm willing to fully submit to confirmation bias and not check into the source lol

 

[MikeMcMann]

Libs are rabid, out for blood

Like I said 'IF' this evidence holds up and 'IF' the russian collusion stuff on the run up the election is enough to get him impeached either now (with Repub Senate turning on him if all his support collapses and it threatens to drag them down if they protect him) or after the 2020 elections (impeached and/or convicted) if the Dem's have both houses then everything he did while in office would have to be considered illegitimate.

Think of it this way if it helps as a parallel example that might make it a little clearer. A foreign double agent manages to rise to POTUS and is outed and impeached and convicted. You would not leave in place the things the double agent did after you got them out.

 

[LuchaBear]

 

[MikeMcMann]

haha,

I would bet my own money that Cohen's school transcripts were better than Trumps.

 

[franklinstower]

@Throttlehead

The fact of the matter is that a dossier funded by the opposition presidential nominee's (and former SOS) campaign, without substantiated claims, was the impetus for the Mueller investigation. Not only this, but most of the principle persons involved were documented having an anti-Trump bias.

It's a hit job.

It is a true hit job though....... I mean even if the steele dossier is bullshit it was true fiction--- Trump is corrupt and we are finding that out daily.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Are people still on here defending Trump? I haven’t been on much and was wondering that the latest right wing defenses are?

So far those arguments have and will boil down to iterations of "It wasn't illegal".

I jokingly predicted in another thread that someone would post "It's not like he killed somebody" but then someone actually posted it pages later in sincerity.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

It is a true hit job though....... I mean even if the steele dossier is bullshit it was true fiction--- Trump is corrupt and we are finding that out daily.

+1 to those of us who knew he was shady af before he was even nominated.

It wasn't rocket science.