Crime Cohen pleads guilty, says he lied

all he had to do was not lie at every turn. seems like it would be easy but........

I know this is the MSM narrative outside of FOX, but, I don't believe it. We'll see how this all shakes down.
 
As far as I see it, and as far as most Republican supporters see it, this whole Mueller investigation has been a witch hunt/red herring misdirection from the actual Russia collusion of Obama, Hillary and the Democrat party. This is a deep state operation IMO, little doubt about it.
 
As far as I see it, and as far as most Republican supporters see it, this whole Mueller investigation has been a witch hunt/red herring misdirection from the actual Russia collusion of Obama, Hillary and the Democrat party. This is a deep state operation IMO, little doubt about it.

We're well aware of how ignorant people see this. Thanks for the update.
 
As far as I see it, and as far as most Republican supporters see it, this whole Mueller investigation has been a witch hunt/red herring misdirection from the actual Russia collusion of Obama, Hillary and the Democrat party. This is a deep state operation IMO, little doubt about it.
Deep State? Stop it already, Infowars lost, Qanon is dead, conspiracies can't win anymore. How about the guy that lies 10 times a day is well....lying.

Please explain how Obama, Hillary colluded with Russia....this should be fun.
 
Unrelated?

Feds show up at former Trump tax attorney Ed Burke's office, block off windows with brown paper

CHICAGO — Brown paper covered the windows of Ed Burke's office at Chicago City Hall on Thursday after federal agents showed up there.

Burke, who is the City Council Finance Committee chairman in Chicago, once served as President Donald Trump's property tax attorney, the Chicago Sun-Times reports.


Klafter & Burke, his firm, has often sought to reduce the property taxes Trump Tower and other commercial properties have to pay.

The visit from federal agents was unannounced, and it has not been said why they might be there. Upon their arrival, everyone in the office was asked to leave, witnesses told WLS television station in Chicago.

Burke has served on Chicago's city council since 1969.
 
Deep State? Stop it already, Infowars lost, Qanon is dead, conspiracies can't win anymore. How about the guy that lies 10 times a day is well....lying.

Please explain how Obama, Hillary colluded with Russia....this should be fun.

https://nyti.ms/2iCeFoh

"The dossier of research into President Trump’s connections to Russia is the product of a research firm founded by a former journalist, Glenn R. Simpson.

It is a 35-page collection of research memos written by Christopher Steele, a respected former British intelligence agent, primarily during the 2016 presidential campaign. The memos, compiled by a research firm called Fusion GPS, allege a multifaceted conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to help Mr. Trump defeat Mrs. Clinton. The memos also detail unsubstantiated accounts of encounters between Mr. Trump and Russian prostitutes, and real estate deals that were intended as bribes, among other claims about Mr. Trump’s businesses.

Mr. Simpson founded Fusion GPS in 2010. The firm is paid to do research by a variety of clients, including political donors, corporations, hedge funds and law firms. During election years, the firm is mostly focused on political opposition research — digging up dirt on a client’s opponent. The firm’s website lists very few details — there is a two-paragraph description of what the firm does and a single email address.

During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information."

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"Republicans and campaign watchdogs have accused the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. of violating campaign finance laws by disguising the payments to Fusion GPS on mandatory disclosures to the Federal Election Commission. Their disclosure reports do not list any payments from the Clinton campaign or the D.N.C. to Fusion GPS. They do list a total of $12.4 million in payments to Perkins Coie, but that’s almost entirely for legal consulting, with only one payment — of $66,500 — for “research consulting” from the D.N.C.

In a complaint filed with the election commission in October, the Campaign Legal Center, a nonprofit group that urges stricter enforcement of election laws, alleged that “at least some of those payments were earmarked for Fusion GPS, with the purpose of conducting opposition research on Donald Trump.” The complaint asserts that the failure to list the ultimate purpose of that money “undermined the vital public information role that reporting is intended to serve.”

Graham M. Wilson, a partner at Perkins Coie, called the complaint “patently baseless,” in part because, he said, the research was done “to support the provision of legal services, and payments made by vendors to sub-vendors are not required to be disclosed in circumstances like this.”

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...ources-trump-dossier-report-article-1.3433372

"The British spy behind a salacious "dossier" on President Trump has told the FBI about his sources for the document, according to a report.

Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele authored the 35-page unsubstantiated report published online in January, which alleged that blackmail against Trump was being used by Kremlin officials in an election interference plot."

^^^^

The whole Mueller FBI witch hunt was initiated by a Clinton campaign funded dossier of unsubstantiated claims meant to link Trump to Russian corruption and election meddling. Mueller is operating an unconstitutional hit mission plain and simple.

Regarding Obama' and Hillary's Uranium One deal with Russia:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017...ministration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering

Oh, and:

 
Only the best people
Drain the swamp
But her emails

Etc etc
 
Don't bother TS Trump supporters don't have the highest IQ to understand any of this.
 
https://nyti.ms/2iCeFoh

"The dossier of research into President Trump’s connections to Russia is the product of a research firm founded by a former journalist, Glenn R. Simpson.

It is a 35-page collection of research memos written by Christopher Steele, a respected former British intelligence agent, primarily during the 2016 presidential campaign. The memos, compiled by a research firm called Fusion GPS, allege a multifaceted conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to help Mr. Trump defeat Mrs. Clinton. The memos also detail unsubstantiated accounts of encounters between Mr. Trump and Russian prostitutes, and real estate deals that were intended as bribes, among other claims about Mr. Trump’s businesses.

Mr. Simpson founded Fusion GPS in 2010. The firm is paid to do research by a variety of clients, including political donors, corporations, hedge funds and law firms. During election years, the firm is mostly focused on political opposition research — digging up dirt on a client’s opponent. The firm’s website lists very few details — there is a two-paragraph description of what the firm does and a single email address.

During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information."

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"Republicans and campaign watchdogs have accused the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. of violating campaign finance laws by disguising the payments to Fusion GPS on mandatory disclosures to the Federal Election Commission. Their disclosure reports do not list any payments from the Clinton campaign or the D.N.C. to Fusion GPS. They do list a total of $12.4 million in payments to Perkins Coie, but that’s almost entirely for legal consulting, with only one payment — of $66,500 — for “research consulting” from the D.N.C.

In a complaint filed with the election commission in October, the Campaign Legal Center, a nonprofit group that urges stricter enforcement of election laws, alleged that “at least some of those payments were earmarked for Fusion GPS, with the purpose of conducting opposition research on Donald Trump.” The complaint asserts that the failure to list the ultimate purpose of that money “undermined the vital public information role that reporting is intended to serve.”

Graham M. Wilson, a partner at Perkins Coie, called the complaint “patently baseless,” in part because, he said, the research was done “to support the provision of legal services, and payments made by vendors to sub-vendors are not required to be disclosed in circumstances like this.”

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...ources-trump-dossier-report-article-1.3433372

"The British spy behind a salacious "dossier" on President Trump has told the FBI about his sources for the document, according to a report.

Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele authored the 35-page unsubstantiated report published online in January, which alleged that blackmail against Trump was being used by Kremlin officials in an election interference plot."

^^^^

The whole Mueller FBI witch hunt was initiated by a Clinton campaign funded dossier of unsubstantiated claims meant to link Trump to Russian corruption and election meddling. Mueller is operating an unconstitutional hit mission plain and simple.

Regarding Obama' and Hillary's Uranium One deal with Russia:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017...ministration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering

Oh, and:


Tell me, what part of the dossier has been disproved ?

Uranium One conspiracy huh, still trying to push that nonsense? Some of you Trump people really need to start dealing in reality and things that are factual.

Nonetheless, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, known as CFIUS, approved the deal by a unanimous vote, according to public reports. Clinton was just one member of the nine member CFIUS by virtue of her role as Secretary of State. The other eight members of CFIUS came from Treasury, Homeland Security, Commerce, Defense, Energy, the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the Office of Science & Technology, and the Justice Department.


Defenders of the deal point out that the Russians don't have a license to export the uranium out of the U.S., and that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission found no risk to national security.
Clinton has said she was not involved in the deliberations and played no role in the decision.

Jose Fernandez, a former assistant secretary of state, told the Times that he represented the department on the committee, and that "Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter." He did not respond to a request for comment by NBC News.

A spokesman for Hillary Clinton did not answer whether she was ever briefed on the Uranium One deal.


"At every turn this storyline has been debunked on the merits," said the spokesman, Nick Merrill. "This latest iteration is simply more of the right doing Trump's bidding for him to distract from his own Russia problems, which are real and a grave threat to our national security."

Stewart Baker, a former top lawyer in the George W. Bush administration and an expert in the CFIUS process, said he doubted that the Uranium One decision ever reached Clinton's desk.

About the donations, he said, "Is it possible that the Russians thought they needed to do this and that it would help them? Yeah, but that doesn't mean that it actually did."

Baker said it was disquieting that the Sessions Justice Department was re-examining a case that career officials already concluded warranted no charges.


"You'd like to think that that wouldn't happen often in a mature democracy," he said.

However, he pointed out that Eric Holder, President Obama's attorney general, ordered a new investigation into brutal CIA interrogations after career prosecutors had looked but filed no charges in the Bush administration. In the end, Holder's department didn't file charges, either.


Im disappointed you didn't go heavy on Benghazi or Seth Rich.
 
@Throttlehead

The fact of the matter is that a dossier funded by the opposition presidential nominee's (and former SOS) campaign, without substantiated claims, was the impetus for the Mueller investigation. Not only this, but most of the principle persons involved were documented having an anti-Trump bias.

It's a hit job.
 
Cohen lies every-time he opens his mouth, but I wonder, who hired him and why?

I think the neighborhood cat is more likely to be colluding with Russia at this point, but also know that Donald Trump is not a good guy, not up for debate.

Should he be President? Not in my estimation. Should we "find something," to overcome an election? Not in my estimation.

Could Donald Trump end his own Presidency by putting both shoes in his mouth? He does that everyday, and even in today's jaded and hyper politicized America, that would and should probably be the reason to step down.

I hope when the end comes, it somehow does something good for the US of A and faith in many things, not just faith in our favorite tribe getting a "W" and end-zone dance over their largely fictional enemies.
 
Lol I'm not a Trump fan. It was just a standard response for any new shit surfacing about Trump and people getting their hopes up. I would much rather have Pence as the president but Trump seems to be teflon.
Mueller has experience with breaking teflon.
 
But if Cohen’s telling the truth this time, then this conclusion, at least, is inescapable: The president, who has followed this drama obsessively, knew that his personal lawyer was lying to Congress about his business activities, and stood by while it happened.

Wouldn't Trump have continued that lie at some point, not simply through omission but saying the same thing, possibly even to congress?
 
@Throttlehead

The fact of the matter is that a dossier funded by the opposition presidential nominee's (and former SOS) campaign, without substantiated claims, was the impetus for the Mueller investigation. Not only this, but most of the principle persons involved were documented having an anti-Trump bias.

It's a hit job.

hit job by who exactly?
trump owns the presidency (and has employed his family onto various positions) while republican party (which supports trump) controls the congress and senate

trump said he would drain the swamp and yet the only swamp going around is the one underneath his ground
 
they could dig up some dirt on obama too if they question like hundreds of people and play them against each other in days long hearings, threatening them with jail time, no problem.
i guess they didn't care back then.
 
Cohen Says Trump Remained Involved in Moscow Tower Project During Campaign
Michael Cohen told special counsel Robert Mueller he lied to Congress to play down President Trump’s involvement during the 2016 campaign in efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, raising the pressure on his former boss as investigators probe his business relationship with Russia.

In a surprise court hearing Thursday, Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty to one charge brought by Mr. Mueller’s office of lying to Congress about the Russian real-estate project, saying he purposely minimized Mr. Trump’s connection to the project. It was the first time Mr. Cohen, who served as Mr. Trump’s self-described fixer for more than a decade, has been publicly implicated in the Mueller investigation.


Before a crowded courtroom at the U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Mr. Cohen said he submitted false written statements to Congress in August 2017, including assertions that he’d had “limited” discussions about the proposed real-estate deal with Mr. Trump, identified in the charging document as “Individual 1.” The discussions were, in fact, “more extensive,” Mr. Cohen said in court.

After Mr. Cohen’s court appearance Thursday, Mr. Trump called him a “weak person” and accused him of lying to get a reduced sentence. Mr. Trump said he had opted not to do the Moscow project because he was “focused on running for president.”

During the campaign, Mr. Cohen asked Mr. Trump if he wanted to travel to Russia to pursue the project, Mr. Cohen said, and consulted a senior campaign official about it. He said he had lied when he told Congress he “never considered asking” Mr. Trump to make the trip.

During the discussions, Felix Sater, a longtime associate of Mr. Trump who worked on the Russian real-estate project, proposed to Mr. Cohen giving Russian President Vladimir Putin a $50 million penthouse in the Moscow tower as a marketing tool, Mr. Sater said in an interview. He said he believed that would allow them to raise prices on the rest of the units by a total of $250 million for oligarchs who would likely want them. Mr. Cohen loved the idea, Mr. Sater said. Buzzfeed News first reported the proposal.

Mr. Cohen also said he made false statements that the Moscow project efforts ended in January 2016 before the Republican primaries began. Mr. Cohen said those efforts continued through June 2016 when the deal fell apart, a month after Mr. Trump had secured his claim on the Republican Party’s presidential nomination. That same month, top campaign officials met at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer linked to the Kremlin, another key episode Mr. Mueller is investigating.

Mr. Cohen told the court he lied “out of loyalty” to Mr. Trump.

 
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