Elections Clinton vs. Trump Polls thread, v2

[Lead]

Soo, if he loses, you're saying he can brag cause it's like a small MLB team going against the Yankees in the finals?

 

[Joe]

Amazing piece on the trump campaign. How he refuses to take advice or want to understand how campaigns are run. Lots of great quotes.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/1...gop.html?_r=1&referer=https://t.co/GcXGuLim4J

In private, Mr. Trump’s mood is often sullen and erratic, his associates say. He veers from barking at members of his staff to grumbling about how he was better off following his own instincts during the primaries and suggesting he should not have heeded their calls for change.

Occasionally, Mr. Trump blows off steam in bursts of boyish exuberance: At the end of a fund-raiser on Long Island last week, he playfully buzzed the crowd twice with his helicopter.

 

[HOLA]

The reason he finally started tanking was all Trump.

I doubt attacking Khan was heeding someone's call for change. He just doesn't want to accept responsibility.

Frankly folks, good sources...people tell me all the time...tremendous sources...they say...Trump is a bitch. I'm being sarcastic. He's not really, but I'm serious. He is.

 

[Madmick]

right before the election black robed thugs overturn voter ID laws in several states, followed by bill clinton blowing his dog whistle that the coast is clear

voter fraud is a given with these criminals

You and I inhabit different realities. Do you think our election is an episode in The Matrix?

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Yeah it is NOT looking good for Trump right now. He's gotta actually start putting out more marketing and hope the debates can cause a huge swing, otherwise he's hosed.

There will be no debates.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

It's done Clinton gots it

Measuring the Oval Office curtains early didn't work out well for Gore.

 

[Quipling]

Measuring the Oval Office curtains early didn't work out well for Gore.

Gore was substantially behind in the polls at this point 16 years ago. He hardly was declaring victory at that point.

 

[Irenaeus]

Jesus. He's down by 5 in the latest poll by LA Times/USC, which is usually very friendly to him.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Measuring the Oval Office curtains early didn't work out well for Gore.

This is a completely different scenario tho

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

This is a completely different scenario tho

Same feeling of overconfidence in an election that was supposedly in the bag.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Same feeling of overconfidence in an election that was supposedly in the bag.

I don't know this seems a bit different to me. Bush didn't have his own party turning on him while being this far behind in the polls plus Gore didn't have demon assassins and evil spirits to help him.

 

[Space]

Headline is a paraphrase for cliffs, but here we go:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2016/08/13/app-maker---trump-win-election/88640044/


App maker: Trump will win election

LOS ANGELES — Despite a majority of opinion polls showing the 2016 presidential election going to Democrat Hillary Clinton, a smartphone app developer says his data suggests challenger Donald Trump will be the victor.

“Based on the stats we see, he looks strong,” says Ric Militi, co-founder of San Diego-based Crazy Raccoons, maker of the Zip question and answer app. His app poses questions and polls responses based on an average of 100,000 daily users. “I go with Trump, based on what we see.”

According to the RealClearPolitics average of opinion polls, which are performed by calling people on landlines and cell phones, and answering questions on websites, Clinton leads with 47.8%, to Trump’s 41.0%.

How can Zip’s results be so different?

“We’re not a poll. We’re a conversation, and 100% anonymous,” Militi says. “People feel comfortable answering questions without fear of being bullied or being called a racist. People can express themselves safely, and you get a pure answer.”

Some Zip questions:

— ”New polls suggest Trump is getting crushed by Clinton. Do they reflect how you are going to vote?” Some 64% told Zip they would vote for Trump, compared to 36% for Clinton. In the latestReuters/Ipsos poll, Clinton leads Trump, 42% to 36%.

— ”California, who you voting for?” Trump got 55%, compared to 45% for Clinton. In the latest Public Policy Institute of California poll, Clinton has a 16-point advantage over Trump, 46% to 30%.

— "What do you honestly think Trump meant by saying "The 2nd amendment people can do something about Hillary? Vote against her? 63% Assassinate her 37%”


And another who's used Zip:

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ta-predict-donald-trump-presidential-victory/

Why would “media polling” be any less fraught with intentional bias than the presentations they broadcast on a daily basis? In short, they wouldn’t.

We first noticed this in the fall of 2015 during the later phase of the GOP primary race. The media narratives were not the same as the visible realities of what was taking place.

Donald Trump’s “engagements”, not just rally attendance – which is historic in scope, are magnitudes beyond the media talking points. Tracking social media, geographic non media polling, and alternate media matrices led us to believe Trump would dominate in the presidential primary.

The indications are evident and clear, however they are also indications that are relatively new to the world of politics. One example: look at the traffic for anti-Trump vs pro-Trump web sites. The #NeverTrump GOP web sites are at their lowest point of interest in the past 10+ years.

After looking at some of the more obscure statistics we concluded an epic landslide was about to take place in the Feb, March, April, May GOP primary. We were correct and Donald Trump won the nomination with the largest increase of primary votes in the history of presidential politics. Part of that success was the ‘Monster vote’.

The Zip App prediction is yet just another dot, another pixel, in a presidential and electoral map picture that is historic, uncomfortable and too challenging for those who are stuck in arcane political metrics for valuations.

This isn’t Romney or Bush’s milquetoast GOP. Nor is it recognizable to quisling’s like Bill Kristol, John McCain, Jonah Goldberg, Mark Levin or a host of other insufferable barking moonbats who are much more comfortable with their cozy UniParty, Hillary/Jeb Clinton/Bush.

 

[7437]

Oh, well if an app developer says he knows how to poll better than real pollsters, i guess we can pack it in. Nothing further needs to be said.

 

[ripskater]

I think Hillary could very well lose this.

 

[Tekk]

Clinton 2016 by a landslide.

 

[KungFuJones]

The race will be a lot closer than the polls say but there is no way trump wins california.

 

[carlos cadona]

I see that after the longroom was exposed to be nothing more than an American separatist in New Mexico claiming to be a market researcher the Trump bots have drudged up some other bullshit to claim that he's really leading in the polls and not getting his shit pushed in.

 

[funcrusher2007]

Hard to take the word of an app developer who's very app is what's used to provide evidence of this..

He has a financial incentive to say and pitch this, advertising...hell..it's already worked.

 

[carlos cadona]

I'm surprised you aren't using that Wikileaks poll as well while your at it, or how about a few random twitter polls as well?

 

[vertical_leap]

LOL at this stupidity.