Elections Clinton vs. Trump Polls thread, v2

[J. Bernie Cunningham]

I've read every post in this thread and you're the one who has brought up and keeps bringing up epilepsy. Inserting your personal problems in internet discussions is a bad habit. If you're looking for pity, you're not getting any. People who criticize Hillary aren't critizing you, obviously, don't fish for reasons to be offended.

I'm sorry, you're suggesting you read this thread, then imply I was the first to bring up epilepsy?

Work on your reading comprehension. I don't want pity. I want people to understand equating her shitty attempts at physical comedy to something that's ruined mine, and countless other's lives is flat out bullshit. It's insulting and inconsiderate to people with a horrible condition who exist on every side of every issue.

If you wanna declare yourself inconsiderate, go for it. If you wanna pretend you're a wonderfully polite Christian like rip and colby13, I'm gonna point out what a shitty person you are.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Its way too early to say polls change all the time. The debates are real gamechangers, I would only look at polls seriously after that.

have debates really been game changers though?

I mean, even after John Kerry pushed GWB's shit in during their first debate....the polls didn't really sway one way or the other in large numbers..

or when Romney destroyed OBama in their first debate...

 

[InvestigatorIL]

have debates really been game changers though?

I mean, even after John Kerry pushed GWB's shit in during their first debate....the polls didn't really sway one way or the other in large numbers..

or when Romney destroyed OBama in their first debate...

I think this election cycle is different because I think there are many more people in this election who are still undecided or could be swayed. Not to mention nobody really has any idea how these debates will play out. I have a feeling Hillary will directly question Trump on specifics and really try and attack his ego. When this happens Trump tends to resort to personal attacks and hopefully that will sway a decent % of people to not vote for him.

 

[RhinoRush]

One of the most interesting parts of this election cycle on Sherdog has been watching Jack Savage lose his haughty aloofness. His biggest tool in the past was the fact he always kept his cool and stuck with just (what he saw as) the facts. This gave him an air of respectability as people who didn't know any better could be forgiven for thinking he was actually an expert in the field of political science.

All that is gone now. He's been dragged screaming into the trenches and turned into a completely different type of poster. It's been pretty fascinating just in a scientific sense. It reads as a study in the effect of paranoia and panic.

 

[MeatheadMike]

Its way too early to say polls change all the time. The debates are real gamechangers, I would only look at polls seriously after that.

Sure anything can happen, but I feel like things can only get worse for Trump in the debates. He runs the risk of saying some other ridiculous embarrassing thing, only this time on live TV. But aside from that, he's not a very good debater and would likely get destroyed. He knows this himself... he was already complaining about the debate schedule last week, laying the groundwork in for him to skip it, if he chooses to go that route.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Yeah, surely anyone who disagrees with you must simply not be paying attention.

Now who isn't paying attention.

So responses like that are not really the kind of honest discussion you were claiming to hope for, are they?

Funny how fast you degenerated into a standard WR nutjob.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

The replies from Trump supporters in this thread perfectly capture the far-right's idiocy and paranoia:

-Hillary makes faces, she can't be president

-Polls don't matter, enthusiasm matters

-Elections are rigged


It's the very thing that got Trump the nomination so it's fitting

 

[Rational Poster]

The replies from Trump supporters in this thread perfectly capture the far-right's idiocy and paranoia:

-Hillary makes faces, she can't be president

-Polls don't matter, enthusiasm matters

-Elections are rigged


It's the very thing that got Trump the nomination so it's fitting

Did you see how hyped they are for Trump in Omaha tho?

It's worth like 5 electoral votes!!

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Trump has simply finished the job the Tea Party started, turning the Republican party into the White Nationalist party. After the Republicans take a beating this November up and down the entire ballot, there will be a massive party overhaul to be more inclusive to gays and minorities. Their white power constituents will hate it, will protest, and will say disgusting things about the president for at least the next 4 years, but the party leaders will have no choice if they want to win future general elections.

This is exactly what I thought in 2008 with the Palin phenomenon.

They need an overhaul. They've sunk to a new low. They'll keep getting smashed if they continue.

Yet here we are, 8 years later and they not only haven't fixed these things, they doubled down on their insanity and bigotry.

 

[InvestigatorIL]

The replies from Trump supporters in this thread perfectly capture the far-right's idiocy and paranoia:

-Hillary makes faces, she can't be president

-Polls don't matter, enthusiasm matters

-Elections are rigged


It's the very thing that got Trump the nomination so it's fitting

Exactly 100% correct. I fear there is an intelligence gap we are dealing with here.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Did you see how hyped they are for Trump in Omaha tho?

It's worth like 5 electoral votes!!

A snarling, spitting voter SHOULD be worth more than a quiet one.

But this one person, one vote thing is an invention of the Cultural Marxists to get them in power.

 

[Joe]

gotta hold on to those talking points

 

[Madmick]

Nice attempt at doom and gloom, but perhaps you should stop judging by polls with shady polling methods like talking to more registered Dems than Repubs. Not to mention that Trump will draw many unregistered voters and independents.

The Sea Hag's support is largely artificial. How much energy is behind her? How many of her supporters do you even know?

Currently, she's struggling to fill gymnasiums, while Trump is drawing thousands to his rallies. And the debates haven't even started. This will go down to the wire, as always, but only because the Dems will do everything they can to rig the election.

Hillary rally:

Trump rally (with thousands of people watching outside):

Found this interesting:

Propaganda is a sign of the truly desperate.

This was obvious the second he floated the idea of a rigged election.

I've never seen a group of people so desperate to present someone who makes excuses before even failing as a figure of strength.

 

[Peteyandjia]

Funny how fast you degenerated into a standard WR nutjob.

Now you're just being silly.

Again: too much war room homey

I'm cool with us disagreeing on some stuff, even if you aren't. You can still come over my place and clink drinks with me anytime.

 

[Madmick]

So responses like that are not really the kind of honest discussion you were claiming to hope for, are they?

Funny how fast you degenerated into a standard WR nutjob.

Yeah, it's funny how quickly someone else bent you over about Hillary. Here is the guy who gave over $7 million to Hillary's campaign prior to the primaries (while hedging with $200k donated to Kasich):

Net worth? $24.9bn. Most famous for? Black Wednesday i.e. "Breaking the Bank of England."

 

[carlos cadona]

Clinton has increased her lead over Trump in Georgia to 7 points. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290725-georgia-poll-clinton-leads-by-7-points
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290725-georgia-poll-clinton-leads-by-7-points
Trump is still leading Clinton by 30 points in the state of denial though.

 

[Gervinho]

Read this and does this sound real to you?

Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

Yes its from Trumps latest rally. This rambling idiot can become the most powerful man in the world. Scary as hell lool

 

[Metusalemi]

I Wonder how gracefully Trump takes his loss after the election.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Don't do this to yourself. Same stuff happened in 2012. They even built a website then too. Kept saying media was oversampling Dems.

The result? Romney lost, and a whole bunch of professionals looked stupid, or had a melt down.

Don't deny the evidence, find a way to move those polls.

Great post. Clearly though many have forgotten. It is possible that Trump's populism is leading to assumptions being flawed but that's an assertion, not a fact.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Read this and does this sound real to you?

Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

Yes its from Trumps latest rally. This rambling idiot can become the most powerful man in the world. Scary as hell lool

I saw that posted somewhere... I thought it was a joke.
Please tell me that's not an actual quote.