Elections Clinton vs. Trump Polls thread, v2

Who wins Florida on election day?


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Also don't count Trump out because Crooked Hillary needs to do 2 things. She needs to stay out of prison, and keep from being admitted into the mental ward of a hospital. Those might be harder tasks for her than people think.

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Hadn't seen that last one. She Must have seizures- that sucks. Going to be hard to not address that issue and keep it under wraps.
 
Wow, what a horrible week for Trump. Besides the fact he is now 8% behind Hillary (irrespective of whether you include Stein / Johnson in polls or not), there are many points that make me believe he stands no chance in hell.

Trump is behind in all swing states.


Clinton is leading New Hampshire by 15%, Pennsylvania by 11%, and Florida - which Trump needs to win at all cost - by 6%. The Clinton team knows it will win Virginia and Colorado and thus currently even air TV spots according to Politico.

Trump's support among Blacks is abysmal.

According to NBC, Clinton is leading 91% to 1% (!!) among Blacks. According to McClatchy, it is 93% to 2%. Even if Fox is right (they say he's got 4%) this still would be worse than Romney in 2012.

Millennials don't give a fuck about Trump.

Among voters below 30, Trump is on rank 4. I repeat: rank 4.

Clinton 41%
Johnson 23%
Stein 16%
Trump 9%

GOP Politicians who want to get (re-)elected are working on Anti-Trump plans.

The NYT quoted several donors and politicians who are considering when the best time is to break with Trump to save re-election and Congress majority.

The nuclear issue is a big one.

People consider Trump to be better to fight ISIS, but if you ask people who should get the nuclear codes, Clinton leads by 22 percentage points in a Fox poll.

Open questions about Trump remain.

Trump shot himself in the knee with the Khan controversy. Not only are people overwhelmingly on the soldier's family's side, we now know how Trump dodged the draft. Trump still has not published his tax documents, so there's no way to know whether he even is a billionaire. And there have been strong arguments that Melania was an illegal immigrant via visa overstay that have not been refuted so far.

His rumored economic plans are a disaster and will be torn to pieces.

If what I read is true about Trump's plans (lower corporate tax from 35 to 15%, tax cuts for all Americans), punitive tariffs for Chinese and Mexican imports of 45 and 35%, respectively (thereby starting trade wars), then I doubt people will follow him. After all, he concurrently wants to increase military spending when he reduces the amount of taxes paid by about a third. And his economic expert team is quite funny, too. Bankers, hedgefund managers, fracking and real estate folks.

I honestly don't trust any poll that puts Hillary at or near 50% and Trump in the mid 30s. Trump can win if he can get Ohio and New Hampshire. It's a pity that he and Kasich don't like each other. I say that as somebody who dislikes Kasich, myself. Obviously Hillary got a post convention bounce but I think there are a lot of people who can be swayed. The debates will have a say in that.
 
Well let's discuss it.
What is the reality of our discussion of Hillary? Is she sick physically, sick mentally, or influenced by an evil force? All 3 or none? Will she stay healthy enough to win office and take office? What is your take?

If you want to actually discuss it, go back and respond to my questions rip. Don't pose a random set of new ones to deflect from an already established topic.

Dude, he's not trolling. He's just dumb. You need to come to terms with that. You're wasting your time on him.

Stupid people answer questions stupidly, they don't avoid them and attempt to steer discussion elsewhere. I'm surprised all it takes is politeness to keep people oblivious to that.
 
If you want to actually discuss it, go back and respond to my questions rip. Don't pose a random set of new ones to deflect from an already established topic.



Stupid people answer questions stupidly, they don't avoid them and attempt to steer discussion elsewhere. I'm surprised all it takes is politeness to keep people oblivious to that.
Which questions do you want answered Bern? Post them here and I'll answer.
 
Hadn't seen that last one. She Must have seizures- that sucks. Going to be hard to not address that issue and keep it under wraps.

I have epilepsy and would love an example of hers that isn't one gif out of context.

Show.me her epilepsy , I'll confirm it for you.

Which questions do you want answered Bern? Post them here and I'll answer.

Post them here? I did rip. Read every post you responded to, and answer the questions in them.

God doesn't like sloth...
 
I have epilepsy and would love an example of hers that isn't one gif out of context.

Show.me her epilepsy , I'll confirm it for you.



Post them here? I did rip. Read every post you responded to, and answer the questions in them.

God doesn't like sloth...

 
Aren't you just a little curious about what a Trump presidency would look like lol

He's a male Sarah Palin except with less political experience and maturity. I must admit, I want to see how a Trump presidency would play out. Bush Jr. had Republican control of Congress and he all sorts of BS. I don't think a Trump presidency could be any worse since a lot of politicians in his party don't even want to back him.

Some Republicans don't want to back him but it's either because they have moral objections to his campaign, they genuinely think that he could cause major harm with a foreign-policy blunder, or (most common) they don't want to hitch their wagon to a likely big loser. On domestic policy, his agenda is theirs, pretty much, and they'll be happy to give him stuff to sign that he's been asking for, like a repeal on taxes of large estates, rollbacks of financial regulations, tax cuts for the rich, etc..
 
Murica should have taken Ron Paul when they had the chance. Now its just a mess either way.
 
I have epilepsy and would love an example of hers that isn't one gif out of context.

Show.me her epilepsy , I'll confirm it for you.



Post them here? I did rip. Read every post you responded to, and answer the questions in them.

God doesn't like sloth...

It seems she's somewhat coherent when whatever happens... Happens and she tries and play it off. That last one she tries to play it like she's looking up but it looks involuntary.

I feel bad for her if she does have some medical issue.
 
Post them here? I did rip. Read every post you responded to, and answer the questions in them.

God doesn't like sloth...
It's not my job to post your questions. If you truly want them answered, you'll post them here in response to this. But I doubt you really want an answer.
 
It seems she's somewhat coherent when whatever happens... Happens and she tries and play it off. That last one she tries to play it like she's looking up but it looks involuntary.

I feel bad for her if she does have some medical issue.

Your video starts with 5 replays of an obviously conscious movement. You're insulting people with a debilitating medical condition by comparing it to a woman's silly faces.

Not very christian of you...
 
That's a pity, I'm pulling for Trump. What Hillary and the Obama administration did in Libya and Syria, and it's flow on effect to Europe is unforgivable.

Anyone even slightly informed on the matter voting Democrat is a sociopath.
I love the Trump voter mindset:
"Anyone who disagrees with my highly debatable position is a sociopath."
Top kek
 
Trump is struggling to hold on to even the "deep red" state of Arizona. He's down in Georgia.

The GE polls don't do the electorate map justice. This is what happens when you ride a weak plurality pony through the primaries. All the anti-intellectual conservatives should have taken the political science a bit more seriously, but this election was about which party's base could stay less spittin' mad, and the Democrats won.
The GOP needs to fall out of love with populist demagogues in a fucking hurry or they're done for good .
 
It's not my job to post your questions. If you truly want them answered, you'll post them here in response to this. But I doubt you really want an answer.

Post them here? As in this thread? Where they already are?

I would love an answer to my questions in this thread, but I'm not helping you be lazy. You know which questions you avoided, you know all you have to do is click on the previous page.

So go ahead and run away scared. It's about what I expected. Just didn't expect a man of god to use laziness as his excuse....
 
Your video starts with 5 replays of an obviously conscious movement. You're insulting people with a debilitating medical condition by comparing it to a woman's silly faces.

Not very christian of you...

Idk that looks more than just a woman's silly face. What do you think it is? Nothing?
 
Idk that looks more than just a woman's silly face. What do you think it is? Nothing?

It's her reacting to a lot of questions as if she's hit by bullets.

It's not a seizure of any kind and suggesting it is insults people with the actual condition.
 
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