Classic stance- Are Hips/Shoulders level? (Sinister)

[austin2016]

Hey everybody,
I have some questions on the specifics of the classic stance i.e. how to get into the stance properly and would appreciate your input.

Is the rear hip joint actually lower than the left hip joint?
The rear shoulder of the classic stance appears lower than the lead shoulder to me. How is this slant of the shoulders achieved- If not through the spine being bent, is in fact the rear hip socket actually lower the front hip? This feels odd to me, and I ask because I have also heard the cue “hips level”.
Thank you

 

[Lucas Coradini]

The lead shoulder higher is achieved through sitting more on the rear leg, not bending your back. The way it worked for me was that I would take a neutral, most normal/modern square stance, and subtly slip a jab by using my rear hip and slightly rotating my torso. Spine 100% straight, chest out, shoulders down on their sockets, shoulder blades down, sitting on my rear leg (weight distribution biased towards the rear leg)

 

[austin2016]

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The lead shoulder higher is achieved through sitting more on the rear leg, not bending your back. The way it worked for me was that I would take a neutral, most normal/modern square stance, and subtly slip a jab by using my rear hip and slightly rotating my torso. Spine 100% straight, chest out, shoulders down on their sockets, shoulder blades down, sitting on my rear leg (weight distribution biased towards the rear leg)

Thank you for the response, so the rear hip would be lower than the lead hip, or should the hips be level?

 

[SandisLL]

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2. Thank you for the response, so the rear hip would be lower than the lead hip, or should the hips be level?

   I will start with advice to watch stance, set up moments etc when you are starting to watch from floor level, ankles, knees and then hips, back etc...

For demo mode it doesn't matter, if before punch ....depends from a lot of variables.

Since a lot of impact might be generated by legs , not alone hips movement it is ....one from most important things in order to watch for possible setups....

 

[WDSTK]

Should the rear foot be perpendicular the body alignment as shown in the picture or pivoted the same way as the lead foot?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Should the rear foot be perpendicular the body alignment as shown in the picture or pivoted the same way as the lead foot?

I like a 45° back foot but I also prefer my guys to have their leadfoot pointing at the opponents centerline which is a little unique for Boxing

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Thank you for the response, so the rear hip would be lower than the lead hip, or should the hips be level?

definitely close to level. If you try to put one hip higher than the other you will look and feel fuckin ridiculous lmao. Just tried it.
Put your lead hip higher and try to box lmao. It’s like you tryin to hump them or something

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Should the rear foot be perpendicular the body alignment as shown in the picture or pivoted the same way as the lead foot?

I like how the picture shows. I feel like you would point more forward when you are leaning forward for pocket boxing or pull counters/high guard

 

[Lucas Coradini]

 

[Lucas Coradini]

As someone suggested the position of the hips is dynamic. It depends on what you need/want to do.

In these stills from Joe you can see him at long distance standing more neutral. In the other still he's either perceiving a threat or getting set to throw a hard right.

definitely close to level. If you try to put one hip higher than the other you will look and feel fuckin ridiculous lmao. Just tried it.
Put your lead hip higher and try to box lmao. It’s like you tryin to hump them or something

I can see why one feel that way, but I think the trick is not to think about putting the lead hip higher, but rear hip lower (sitting on the back leg). Makes sense?

 

[biscuitsbrah]

As someone suggested the position of the hips is dynamic. It depends on what you need/want to do.

In these stills from Joe you can see him at long distance standing more neutral. In the other still he's either perceiving a threat or getting set to throw a hard right.



I can see why one feel that way, but I think the trick is not to think about putting the lead hip higher, but rear hip lower (sitting on the back leg). Makes sense?

Ah I see

 

[SandisLL]

As someone suggested the position of the hips is dynamic. It depends on what you need/want to do.

In these stills from Joe you can see him at long distance standing more neutral. In the other still he's either perceiving a threat or getting set to throw a hard right.



I can see why one feel that way, but I think the trick is not to think about putting the lead hip higher, but rear hip lower (sitting on the back leg). Makes sense?

Like this.
While I usually watch boxers starting from floor... it does makes sense cos for power punches you are starting with legs ... and from floor.

There was @Dexter and about body mechanics he was decent poster. Ofc we do have different opinions in some fields because he is hardcore Kremlin's supporter, however about boxing he was good and normal.

 

[austin2016]

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Great example and explanation, much appreciated!

 

[Frode Falch]

Some great stuff in this thread. Good input guys. This is why i like this sub forum alot