Circling The Arguments (SCO thread v. 32)

[andnowweknow]

So is the collusion done now and the only thing that remains is the OOJ? I honestly never cared much about OOJ part of this report.

None of this is done now, it's clear he wasn't indicted on obstruction by the DOJ due to regulations they can't indict a sitting president FOR ANYTHING. There is a shitload of smoke on the collusion front.

The ball is in the court of congress now, Barr is just a partisan and that is painfully obvious, it's over for this iteration of the AG.

 

[MikeMcMann]

LOL at Mueller determining the POTUS tried to obstruct and was ONLY stopped because those around him refusing to carry out his orders.

That is 'by definition' obstruction. Obstruction does not require success and in fact fi successful by definition there is no charges. They obstructed successfully. in all cases where obstruction is prosecuted is is because the person TRIED and failed just as Trump did. It is the ATTEMPT that is illegal.

 

[all caps]

if you have been paying attention to what is coming out of this, essentially that Bill Barr is a joke and Trump would have been indicted were he not the president, you might consider a different opinion. Just a thought.

No thanks

 

[andnowweknow]

it's amazing how will the Trumpers are to excuse all this obvious criminal behavior. Impressive loyalty to the orange one.

 

[DeJulez]

Maybe you should stop watching FN?

Never seen it.

 

[SBJJ]

Since when did a prosecutor or investigation have to prove someone's innocence?

This is some pretty dangerous shit we are seeing.

 

[Sketch]

I'm a liberal but I always thought this was a witch hunt . Dumb waste of resources

This is the first step in clearing up your TDS, I am proud of you being able to admit this. Good work.

 

[waiguoren]

Hey guys, this quotation is directly from the Mueller report, page 2:

"the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

Link to the full Mueller report: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html

 

[Joe]

 

[Strychnine]

Remember a few years ago when saying the trump campaign and russia were conspiring against hillary was crazy talk?

 

[zebby23]

Honest question - could he have said that because he believed the special counsel would be on a witch hunt to end his presidency?

Your assumption that "I'm fu****" implies wrongdoing on Trump's behalf has no more merit than the assumption that "I'm fu****" implies Trump believes the special counsel would be out to get him.

Drawing any conclusion from his statement without knowing the intent behind it is nothing more than pure conjecture.

It’s not what an innocent person would say.

 

[bobgeese]

None of this is done now, it's clear he wasn't indicted on obstruction by the DOJ due to regulations they can't indict a sitting president FOR ANYTHING. There is a shitload of smoke on the collusion front.

The ball is in the court of congress now, Barr is just a partisan and that is painfully obvious, it's over for this iteration of the AG.

it's amazing how will the Trumpers are to excuse all this obvious criminal behavior. Impressive loyalty to the orange one.

 

[Strychnine]

You've gotta be freaking kidding me...

Law and order President my arse!

 

[andnowweknow]

On the core question ("collusion"), Trump looks great so far. I'm about to start reading the report and it's possible I'll see it differently afterward.

 

[bobgeese]

It’s not what an innocent person would say.

 

[DrDune]

It’s not what an innocent person would say.

Are you claiming that no innocent person has ever uttered "I'm fu****" because they believe the odds are stacked against them? That would be completely asinine.

I'm willing to agree with you that "I'm fu****" COULD imply Trump wrongdoings, but again, it's pure conjecture without more substance. To act like that's irrefutable proof of wrongdoing is foolish, and you know that.

 

[Joe]

Lmfao

 

[andnowweknow]

there's not much else for you to do Bob...this is a nightmare of shit behavior you seem obligated to defend. Which is nuts but whatever.

On the real though, and while it is super iffy politically, congress basically has no choice but to impeach the president at this point. Just from a duty standpoint...this report is a novel of criminal behavior that was only not treated as such because he's president.

 

[SBJJ]

Remember when everyone was screaming how they would accept the findings and conclusions of the Mueller Report

War Room gonna War Room

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Lol sounds like a perfectly innocent man

One should always be skeptical of 4th hand information.....

<Lmaoo>