Circling The Arguments (SCO thread v. 32)

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READ: The Mueller Report, With Redactions

» Read the roughly 400-page report.


https://www.npr.org/2019/04/18/708850903/read-the-full-mueller-report-with-redactions


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What up WR? You gotta wait for the talking heads to tell you what it says?

If you really cared you would read it yourself.

I barely care. I'm debating reading it. I will skim it for sure, but I'm guessing it is written in legalize.

Edit: I was wrong. It isn't written in legalize. Very readable.

Discuss .........
 
SBJJ said:
So fuck everyone but the partisans on one side in Congress.

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Nope, didn't say that at all. But you're so willing to follow President Trump that you'd believe it if he said his dad was born in Germany.
 
andnowweknow said:
It seems pretty obvious at this even early stage of reading through the report by people that he would have been indicted for sure on obstruction, and possibly on conspiracy were he not the sitting president.
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Yeah, in addition to the part already mentioned, which was new and pretty shocking (I mean, Trump and Co. lying isn't surprising, but when you consider that this is the president of America--yeesh), there was this:

Several features of the conduct we investigated distinguish it from typical obstruction-of-justice cases. First, the investigation concerned the President, and some of his actions, such as firing the FBI director, involved facially lawful acts within his Article II authority, which raises constitutional issues discussed below. At the same time, the President’s position as the head of the Executive Branch provided him with unique and powerful means of influencing official proceedings, subordinate officers, and potential witnesses—all of which is relevant to a potential obstruction-of-justice analysis.
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IGIT said:
hio MFIC,

there's probably some truth to that - much in the same way republicans never could seem to quite let go of Benghazi, in regards to Mrs. Clinton.

- IGIT
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I agree with that. I think the “Russia Collusion” obsession is a bit more ridiculous, but I’d have to say both are ridiculous.
 
kpt018 said:
How can it look great when there is evidence of obstruction?
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there is a fucking mountain of it lol

the ONLY reason this was not brought to indictment because Trump can't be indicted as president. Period.
 
HereticBD said:
Nope. You've already proven that you're incapable of accepting facts you don't like to hear. It will be no different when Congress does fuck all. Give it a rest.
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th
 
So is the collusion done now and the only thing that remains is the OOJ? I honestly never cared much about OOJ part of this report.
 
I'm a liberal but I always thought this was a witch hunt . Dumb waste of resources
 
HereticBD said:
Nope. You've already proven that you're incapable of accepting facts you don't like to hear. It will be no different when Congress does fuck all. Give it a rest.
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He's an admitted CNN and MSNBC viewer. #LostCause
 
If russia was involved in elections and then russian government publicly celebrating trump"s victory, how trump has nothing to do with it?
What the fuck
 
kpt018 said:
How can it look great when there is evidence of obstruction?
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Because a lot of behavior can be taken as "evidence of obstruction" (e.g., the firing of Comey or only responding to questions in writing) and the citizenry was already aware of it.

On the core question ("collusion"), Trump looks great so far. I'm about to start reading the report and it's possible I'll see it differently afterward.
 
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