Social Charleston White, who is this moron?

[Via Heeto]

i am going to go out on a limb and guess there are also videos of him complaining about racism against black people

 

[evergreenrider]

i am going to go out on a limb and guess there are also videos of him complaining about racism against black people

Hard pressed to find that

 

[koquerelle]

No idea who this guy is. Never heard of him till this thread.

Widespread internet availability and social media has given every crank an outlet to disseminate their crazy.

His videos pop often on WorldStar. He hates everyone and probably has beefs with a dozen rappers. I'm surprised he's still alive. He's a bad person, but has fans anyway.

 

[Loiosh]

did Looish hijack your account? lol.

well done btw. (leftists actually believe this shit. ^^^^^)

No, we don't. You never actually take part in discussions about what we believe, you just take shots from the cheap seats. Maybe one day we can actually talk about these issues and come to understand one another better.

I think it's interesting that you chose the name Dantes while I used Tilting at Windmills for decades. Tempered cynicism and hate vs delusional, idealistic naivete. Dantes was very similar to a young Quixote before the world buried him in a hole.

Did you used to be me, I wonder?

 

[Edmond_Dantes]

No, we don't. You never actually take part in discussions about what we believe, you just take shots from the cheap seats. Maybe one day we can actually talk about these issues and come to understand one another better.

I think it's interesting that you chose the name Dantes while I used Tilting at Windmills for decades. Tempered cynicism and hate vs delusional, idealistic naivete. Dantes was very similar to a young Quixote before the world buried him in a hole.

Did you used to be me, I wonder?

you obviously haven't read the novel.

Dantes wasn't delusional, he was a person who give his fellow man the benefit of the doubt, treated everyone with kindness always attempted to do the right thing. It wasn't until he saw man's true nature that his eyes opened, and he knew exactly how to deal with those who betrayed him.

I have attempted to discuss issues with you honestly, but you lied, obfuscated and double downed. I have no interest in discourse with dishonest racists like yourself. I know your true nature.

 

[Loiosh]

you obviously haven't read the novel.

Dantes wasn't delusional, he was a person who give his fellow man the benefit of the doubt, treated everyone with kindness always attempted to do the right thing. It wasn't until he saw man's true nature that his eyes opened, and he knew exactly how to deal with those who betrayed him.

I have attempted to discuss issues with you honestly, but you lied, obfuscated and double downed. I have no interest in discourse with dishonest racists like yourself. I know your true nature.

Quixote was initially considered delusional, but the book wrestles with the question of whether it's better to see the world as it is, or as it should be.

Dantes was idealistic and naïve before being betrayed, he didn't share Quixote's delusions. His hatred gives him power but the central question of that story is the price of hatred; film adaptations make this price very clear but the book is more ambiguous.

Quixote's origin is more extreme than Dates', whose naivete is common in youth. Dantes being betrayed and buried in a hole can be seen as the process of simply growing older and becoming more realistic, having optimism beaten out of him.

I don't lie or obfuscate and everything I say is in good faith. If you disagree with anything I say, discuss it with me, I have always been open to being proven wrong.

I'd specifically like to hear you explain why I'm racist, it's a common rhetorical trick used by the far right to attack progressive ideals. I don't know who or what you are, I have my suspicions due to the nature of your attacks but I keep them to myself.

And what exactly is my true nature?

To be clear, your repeated attacks on my character don't matter. They're nothing more than evidence you aren't interested in discussing the actual issues. I think if you could easily prove me wrong you would, but you choose instead to attack me and dismiss them without consideration.

 

[S Class]

He says he wants Asian stores to be robbed and Asian women be raped. Smh

 

[Fox by the Sea]

you obviously haven't read the novel.

Dantes wasn't delusional, he was a person who give his fellow man the benefit of the doubt, treated everyone with kindness always attempted to do the right thing. It wasn't until he saw man's true nature that his eyes opened, and he knew exactly how to deal with those who betrayed him.

I have attempted to discuss issues with you honestly, but you lied, obfuscated and double downed. I have no interest in discourse with dishonest racists like yourself. I know your true nature.

off topic, but great forum name.
surprised nobody took it before.
it's one of the best stories ever written.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

What makes people go off like this. Wtf.

Charleston White does not like he does the Charleston, nor is he... well, you know.

That's a misleading name.

 

[Edmond_Dantes]

off topic, but great forum name.
surprised nobody took it before.
it's one of the best stories ever written.

reported for derailing.

no but seriously, easily my favorite book of all time. great messages, great characters, great character arc, and it teaches you that some people are beyond redemption and/or forgiveness.

 

[Fake Doctor]

Quixote was initially considered delusional, but the book wrestles with the question of whether it's better to see the world as it is, or as it should be.

Dantes was idealistic and naïve before being betrayed, he didn't share Quixote's delusions. His hatred gives him power but the central question of that story is the price of hatred; film adaptations make this price very clear but the book is more ambiguous.

Quixote's origin is more extreme than Dates', whose naivete is common in youth. Dantes being betrayed and buried in a hole can be seen as the process of simply growing older and becoming more realistic, having optimism beaten out of him.

I don't lie or obfuscate and everything I say is in good faith. If you disagree with anything I say, discuss it with me, I have always been open to being proven wrong.

I'd specifically like to hear you explain why I'm racist, it's a common rhetorical trick used by the far right to attack progressive ideals. I don't know who or what you are, I have my suspicions due to the nature of your attacks but I keep them to myself.

And what exactly is my true nature?

To be clear, your repeated attacks on my character don't matter. They're nothing more than evidence you aren't interested in discussing the actual issues. I think if you could easily prove me wrong you would, but you choose instead to attack me and dismiss them without consideration.

You know, I'm beating a dead horse with this, but every once in a while when I see this douchenozzle come in with the "Your personal attacks just show that you aren't willing to discuss the issue - checkmate!" I want everyone to remember how invested this guy is in avoiding those nasty personal attacks in his own rhetoric. He comes into a thread and will, while targeting specific people, broadly, say that "conservatives are smashing education into paste," accuse people that they "don't care about the truth and care only about towing the party line. You have no interest in honest dialogue, and saw what you considered a "gotcha" as your escape hatch." This is in the thread about the so-called "Don't say gay bill" where this absolute mouthbreather didn't even realize that he had been utterly mislead by BS partisan talking points and took it upon himself to come in and smear not just posters in there but their whole political persuasion based on his own mistake... Then how does he finish off? Not "Shit - I really got this one wrong. Guys, sorry, you're right, I'm wrong - I obviously don't understand what's going on since I didn't even know that all the headlines that form my opinions on politics were outright lying to me." Nope - he says this:

"I called it what a lot of people are calling it, and explained why.

You're focusing on this because you know you can't address the points I raised, and it's a bit disappointing you didn't even try. You're using Shapiro's "make sure you frame the argument" tactic, and it isn't used by people who are honest when discussing important issues.

I give everyone a chance to prove me wrong and some people actually do it. They change my mind, because I don't know everything. You've even seen it happen."

This guy literally came into a thread where he didn't know what the fuck was going on, got blatantly exposed that he didn't know, then finishes off with "Well, you just can't address my points" and spends pages upon pages accusing people of hiding, of falling for Conservative propaganda, after it was made blatantly clear that this guy doesn't tend to actually look beyond headlines on anti-conservative stuff himself. His bloody MO is to come into a thread, treat everyone like they're no-mind partisan hacks, be exactly that himself, and then spend half the time accusing people of being stupid or dodging him while he gets upset that people call him names. He sets the rhetorical bar in the bloody sewer and then gets pissy when people argue at the level he has set it at.

The lack of self reflection behind this guy's partisan bloviation is mind boggling. Shit, it wasn't long ago when some Project Veritas thing came out and he came in and more or less said that you could ignore everything that came out of PV because they had done bad things in their past. His exact words about them were:

"They've lied and deceived too many times to ever be given the benefit of the doubt, and they've done a lot of damage over the years."

Later on, I came in did - again, this dead-horse beating routine of "Here's all the ways you've been a partisan hack" with the intimation being that because he's been so full of shit in the past nobody should give him the benefit of the doubt. I felt like testing his self awareness, to see if he would make the connection that in a thread where he was arguing "These people have been partisan in the past, so we can completely ignore them, without consideration, now" he would realize that I'm pointing out what a partisan shitbag he has been in the past and was saying, about him, that "this person has been such a partisan hack in the past that we can completely ignore him, without consideration, now." It went right over his fucking head, and he actually got quite upset about it, waxing on and on about how he REALLY has black friends and how he's an old soul or some such shit.

This poster, @Loiosh , is the picture of a partisan dirtbag who will come in with political opinions that are a collage of legacy news headlines, call people names, use all sort of shitty anecdotal evidence "I have black friends! I have Trump supporting friends!" and then get pissy when someone doesn't treat him like a serious person. He is more than happy to judge people based on their past performance, but gets pissy about it when he gets held to that standard. He's like Biden, making up a new way his son dies to appeal to every tough audience he has. He's the second most notable lying shitbag in this forum but, unlike the #1, he's not that smart.

Luckily, he has me blocked, so he won't have to suffer through me calling him all these dastardly names. You have my blocked - like you said you did - right @Loiosh ?

Anyway, there is reminder number fifteen of Loiosh's "true character." He's in his "squid-ink-cloud" word wall defense phase now, so buckle in people.

Serious message to @Loiosh - take a step back man. You create this. Every bloody time. It's the stick-up your ass, I know best, "I'm an old soul" routine backed with the fact that you tend to come into things relatively poorly informed that gets everyone so pissy with you. You're basically a raw-nerve or partisan energy, and all that stuff you get back that you don't like? You are setting that tone. You've spent years setting it. Have some god damned self awareness dude!

 

[koquerelle]

i am going to go out on a limb and guess there are also videos of him complaining about racism against black people

He doesn't do that. He hates everyone.

 

[Edmond_Dantes]

Quixote was initially considered delusional, but the book wrestles with the question of whether it's better to see the world as it is, or as it should be.

Dantes was idealistic and naïve before being betrayed, he didn't share Quixote's delusions. His hatred gives him power but the central question of that story is the price of hatred; film adaptations make this price very clear but the book is more ambiguous.

Quixote's origin is more extreme than Dates', whose naivete is common in youth. Dantes being betrayed and buried in a hole can be seen as the process of simply growing older and becoming more realistic, having optimism beaten out of him.

I don't lie or obfuscate and everything I say is in good faith. If you disagree with anything I say, discuss it with me, I have always been open to being proven wrong.

I'd specifically like to hear you explain why I'm racist, it's a common rhetorical trick used by the far right to attack progressive ideals. I don't know who or what you are, I have my suspicions due to the nature of your attacks but I keep them to myself.

And what exactly is my true nature?

To be clear, your repeated attacks on my character don't matter. They're nothing more than evidence you aren't interested in discussing the actual issues. I think if you could easily prove me wrong you would, but you choose instead to attack me and dismiss them without consideration.

you are easily the most dishonest and most racist poster on this forum. (two mods here come close)

I have proven you wrong several times in several different discussions.

Rather than doing the honest, noble action of modifying your original (uninformed position) you doubled down.

when asked to provide proof of unsubstantiated claims, you deflected, and then lied again, or you did your favorite tactic. "uhhhh, I'm not going to waste my time attempting to discuss this with bigots/racists/etc."

I have already explained how/why you are racist. you infantilize people of color, especially African Americans. you believe they have no impulse control and can't dictate their own actions. you essentially believe they are too stupid. As I said a long time ago, as POC myself I learned rather early just how dangerous, delusional people like you are to minority communities.

 

[Edmond_Dantes]

You know, I'm beating a dead horse with this, but every once in a while when I see this douchenozzle come in with the "Your personal attacks just show that you aren't willing to discuss the issue - checkmate!" I want everyone to remember how invested this guy is in avoiding those nasty personal attacks in his own rhetoric. He comes into a thread and will, while targeting specific people, broadly, say that "conservatives are smashing education into paste," accuse people that they "don't care about the truth and care only about towing the party line. You have no interest in honest dialogue, and saw what you considered a "gotcha" as your escape hatch." This is in the thread about the so-called "Don't say gay bill" where this absolute mouthbreather didn't even realize that he had been utterly mislead by BS partisan talking points and took it upon himself to come in and smear not just posters in there but their whole political persuasion based on his own mistake... Then how does he finish off? Not "Shit - I really got this one wrong. Guys, sorry, you're right, I'm wrong - I obviously don't understand what's going on since I didn't even know that all the headlines that form my opinions on politics were outright lying to me." Nope - he says this:

"I called it what a lot of people are calling it, and explained why.

You're focusing on this because you know you can't address the points I raised, and it's a bit disappointing you didn't even try. You're using Shapiro's "make sure you frame the argument" tactic, and it isn't used by people who are honest when discussing important issues.

I give everyone a chance to prove me wrong and some people actually do it. They change my mind, because I don't know everything. You've even seen it happen."

This guy literally came into a thread where he didn't know what the fuck was going on, got blatantly exposed that he didn't know, then finishes off with "Well, you just can't address my points" and spends pages upon pages accusing people of hiding, of falling for Conservative propaganda, after it was made blatantly clear that this guy doesn't tend to actually look beyond headlines on anti-conservative stuff himself. His bloody MO is to come into a thread, treat everyone like they're no-mind partisan hacks, be exactly that himself, and then spend half the time accusing people of being stupid or dodging him while he gets upset that people call him names. He sets the rhetorical bar in the bloody sewer and then gets pissy when people argue at the level he has set it at.

The lack of self reflection behind this guy's partisan bloviation is mind boggling. Shit, it wasn't long ago when some Project Veritas thing came out and he came in and more or less said that you could ignore everything that came out of PV because they had done bad things in their past. His exact words about them were:

"They've lied and deceived too many times to ever be given the benefit of the doubt, and they've done a lot of damage over the years."

Later on, I came in did - again, this dead-horse beating routine of "Here's all the ways you've been a partisan hack" with the intimation being that because he's been so full of shit in the past nobody should give him the benefit of the doubt. I felt like testing his self awareness, to see if he would make the connection that in a thread where he was arguing "These people have been partisan in the past, so we can completely ignore them, without consideration, now" he would realize that I'm pointing out what a partisan shitbag he has been in the past and was saying, about him, that "this person has been such a partisan hack in the past that we can completely ignore him, without consideration, now." It went right over his fucking head, and he actually got quite upset about it, waxing on and on about how he REALLY has black friends and how he's an old soul or some such shit.

This poster, @Loiosh , is the picture of a partisan dirtbag who will come in with political opinions that are a collage of legacy news headlines, call people names, use all sort of shitty anecdotal evidence "I have black friends! I have Trump supporting friends!" and then get pissy when someone doesn't treat him like a serious person. He is more than happy to judge people based on their past performance, but gets pissy about it when he gets held to that standard. He's like Biden, making up a new way his son dies to appeal to every tough audience he has. He's the second most notable lying shitbag in this forum but, unlike the #1, he's not that smart.

Luckily, he has me blocked, so he won't have to suffer through me calling him all these dastardly names. You have my blocked - like you said you did - right @Loiosh ?

Anyway, there is reminder number fifteen of Loiosh's "true character." He's in his "squid-ink-cloud" word wall defense phase now, so buckle in people.

Serious message to @Loiosh - take a step back man. You create this. Every bloody time. It's the stick-up your ass, I know best, "I'm an old soul" routine backed with the fact that you tend to come into things relatively poorly informed that gets everyone so pissy with you. You're basically a raw-nerve or partisan energy, and all that stuff you get back that you don't like? You are setting that tone. You've spent years setting it. Have some god damned self awareness dude!

your posts are absolutely brilliant, and a most categorical indictment on some of the posting habits of a few mendacious charlatans around here

 

[Fake Doctor]

your posts are absolutely brilliant, and a most categorical indictment on some of the posting habits of a few mendacious charlatans around here

Honestly, it is a complete waste of my time (that I perversely enjoy doing). This guy has the self-awareness of a tree stump - or is basically a golem animated by his political position, with one basic program he uses to approach political opposition. When you come into every discussion like he does, viewing other posters, new sources, whatever, through this lens:

"They've lied and deceived too many times to ever be given the benefit of the doubt, and they've done a lot of damage over the years."

Go figure - EVERYONE looks like some bad faith actor to you, and you calling them names = good and just, them calling you names = just further reveals their dishonesty, etc.

 

[panem-et-circenses]

I know nobody will come to his defense, but @Loiosh is a valued member of this board, imo

 

[Edmond_Dantes]

I know nobody will come to his defense, but @Loiosh is a valued member of this board, imo

I mean, sure...if you appreciate dishonesty, hypocrisy, and white savior type of posts, he's probably your cup of tea.

 

[Loiosh]

you are easily the most dishonest and most racist poster on this forum. (two mods here come close)

I have proven you wrong several times in several different discussions.

Rather than doing the honest, noble action of modifying your original (uninformed position) you doubled down.

when asked to provide proof of unsubstantiated claims, you deflected, and then lied again, or you did your favorite tactic. "uhhhh, I'm not going to waste my time attempting to discuss this with bigots/racists/etc."

I have already explained how/why you are racist. you infantilize people of color, especially African Americans. you believe they have no impulse control and can't dictate their own actions. you essentially believe they are too stupid. As I said a long time ago, as POC myself I learned rather early just how dangerous, delusional people like you are to minority communities.

Please explain where and how you proved me wrong. I have absolutely been proven wrong on Sherdog, and I'm one of the rare people here that doesn't have a problem accepting it. I'm pretty confident these are cases where you simply didn't accept my perspective and have claimed I was simply rejecting the truth. If "literally called Don't Say Gay" is one of your examples I have repeatedly said I spoke in haste and in error, and by doubling down you probably mean the fact I continue to stress people are calling that because that's the net effect of the measure.

"Infantilization of people of color" is a common tactic of the alt right designed to prevent white progressives from speaking on their behalf or recommending any measures to help their communities. Saying people punished with redlining should see some restitution to fix their neighborhoods doesn't mean I think they're less capable, it means a crime has been committed and they're living with the consequences. If you want to accuse me of these things, please provide concrete examples.

Please explain how I'm dangerous to minority communities when at the core of my message is the fact everyone has to do their best with the cards they've been dealt.

Very important to note here is the fact all we're talking about is me. You never speak to the points I make or my positions except to call me names.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Jfc guys, can we start using spoilers
Not everyone has had a chance to read those books yet

 

[Fake Doctor]

I know nobody will come to his defense, but @Loiosh is a valued member of this board, imo

In a weird way, I'll give my conditional defense of him.

I think he presents a certain side of the political debate earnestly, and with incredibly irritating enthusiasm and loyalty. I'd rather see him here than not, but GOOD LORD do I wish he would tone it down with some of that enthusiasm, because it makes him so damned tiresome to talk to. He's not consistent, he demands others hold standards that he doesn't hold himself to and is shameless when it gets pointed out, and he'll oftentimes talk at length on things where he doesn't know what he's talking about and show zero contrition when that is revealed. It makes him a guy who is generally actually quite pleasant to talk to pretty obnoxious when it comes to politics... But, the reality is, that type of partisan juggernaut is a picture of a significant portion of the voting base - so, it's better to have that represented here.

I suspect he'd be quite pleasant to talk to, or have as a coworker or something, as long as you kept your politics under wraps with him. To be fair, that's a snapshot of working in a university at the moment. When politics breaks into things though, I find him incredibly stuck up and arrogant far beyond what he has justification be. It makes him obnoxious - but, again, representative and, therefore, valuable to have here.