Chael Goes Full Retard for Colby

[Ken Fresno]

Chael is 100% right. And the people who don't get it are the people who think they're enlightened when they constantly point out that pro wrestling is fake. Basically as dumb as people who really think it's real imo.

Obviously we all know it's an act. But so was Muhammad Ali hating Joe Frazier. And while Howard Cosell might bust Ali's balls about his act, he's not gonna turn to the camera and go "You know this is all for show, right folks? These 2 don't even know each other, and they'd probably be friends if they did..."

There are tens of thousands of people sitting at Buffalo Wild Wings type places watching, thinking "maybe I'll have people over for the next one, and just buy it at home. Maybe I'll do it when this Colby guy fights to unify the belts." Rogan completely forgot his place, and spoke directly to the casuals as if he was on a Sherdog Q&A.

 

[Hoop]

I anticipate his next fight will generate significantly greater buzz.

I think he needs a good sparring partner to go back and forth with. When Woodley was on the MMA Hour for the 1st 10 minutes talking about Covington, he was being un-Woodley like and talking about 'killing Covington' then he went on his usual tangent about social issues and the usual stuff he waffles about.

I bet when they do the press conference for the fight, Woodley will end up getting booed and it'll have shades of Cormier and Jones when they did their press conferences; 'why are you booing me and cheering for this guy?'

 

[SuperNerd]

MMA "hardcores" have so much in common with pro-wrestling fans from 20 years ago.

 

[Szwok]

Chael isnt wrong!

 

[SuperNerd]

"Chael has known Colby forever and is biased."

Yup, TS solved it. That's Sonnen's motivation for these videos.

 

[VitorReem]

I usually like chael but he’s being a whiny bitch here. Not sure why he’s pretending like this is the first time any fan has ever heard of a fighter trying to sell PPVs. This shit has been happening for years and years.

 

[in the liver]

There's been a lot of heated discussion from Chael about Rogan's comments during the PPV that Colby Covington was trying to earn ppvs with his act.




One thing is, Chael is almost constantly admitting that Covington is putting up an act. He tries to make it seem like Covington has a master plan behind this, when in reality it's pretty clear he is trying too hard to be a bad guy everyone wants to see lose (Although he already lost), and it doesn't come off authentic the way Conor did

im convinced that rogan, chael and rondas retarded ex just sit and come up with these dumb internet drama storylines to get people to listen to their shit. theyre talking about fighters acting and creating storylines, while doing the exact same thing themselves.

 

[Ken Fresno]

Joe simply pointed out that he was selling the ppv with his trash talk, which was true.

If you believed Colby was legit before, Rogan's comment would not make you think he was acting.

However, chael himself was the one who truly exposed him on his podcast. Chael is the one explaining colbys act.

Ironically, chael goes on a tirade about "joe exposing the business" when in reality, chael is exposing Colby himself.

Funny chael doesn't realize that if he never addressed it, nobody would think of it.

Like I said, If you are a 12 year old boy and thought Colby was real, what Joe said wouldn't make you realize what's going on. However, if you then watched Chaels podcast, you WOULD.

Funny irony here.

You could make a good point, if you didn't completely miss the point.

Chael is speaking to hardcores on his podcast and Joe is speaking to casuals on the PPV, which was Chael's entire point.

 

[GSPSAKU]

Sonnen's rationale is that casual fans (which he alleged make up 85% of the buyrates) don't watch these sorts of videos; his gripe is the fact that Rogan made the aforementioned comments during the PPV, where casual fans would be.

TS missed the boat while acannxr got it right.

Only hardcore fans listen to Chael Sonnen's podcast as well as other MMA related podcasts and the hardcore fans make up no more than 15% of the total fans. These 15% (nearly all of us on SD) already follow the sport and know what's going on but there's a whole bunch that don't follow the sport except for what they occasionally see on TV or ads or see in passing on social media/YT. That 85%, the casuals, have no clue who Covington is, they haven't followed him, haven't seen what he was or wasn't before he became "Chaos".

Hate to say it but Chael is on the money here

 

[SuperNerd]

TS missed the boat while acannxr got it right.

acannxr is a heavyweight poster.

He just needs to get rid of that purple belt.

 

[Ruhler]

Shaub vs Chael - the idiot vs the lying sociopath.

 

[MikeyB]

Chael isn't wrong. You're selling a story, and the story is Colby is an asshole. His point is valid.

If Chuck didn't have a Mohawk and look like a psycho from the bar no one cares about him either.

It's not that hard.

 

[CerebralKnievel]

Chael knows the whole game all too well. Guy went to pro wrestler training camp. He knows how to sell because that's a huge part of pro wrestling. Rogan shouldn't brought it up on the ppv.

Why should he not have brought it up? This isn't pro wrestling. It isn't like he was breaking the fourth wall here. He was calling out a douchey embarrassment of a human on their awful, phoney act.

 

[ookii]

Chael's comment about "better understanding about a sport that made you filthy rich when you have never thrown a punch" to Joe Rogan must have been heat stemming with Rogan's comments about Chael's good friend CM Punk after the fight

 

[revoltub]

You could make a good point, if you didn't completely miss the point.

Chael is speaking to hardcores on his podcast and Joe is speaking to casuals on the PPV, which was Chael's entire point.

I know what his point was. Hes off base here. But hes probably trolling.

 

[krelianx]

What Chael is really missing is how people don't need to believe the act to enjoy the act anymore. This is not WWE. People know it is an act, but they don't care. Even he himself admitted Colby openly says this is all an act.

 

[Shaddows]

He just can't seem to grasp that Colby is the equivalent of a bad actor. He can't sell his persona. Colby is like a movie so bad it's good. Even the casuals can spot a fake. Everyone can spot a fake.

Chael has known Colby forever and is biased. Probably because he coached Colby to do what he's doing but its wolf tickets.

I disagree.
You said yourself, he is "so bad it's good."

Colby does not care strangers hate him. He is making money BECAUSE people hate him.

What you miss, is that he doesn't have to be good. Just keep talking and keep winning.
Yes, he is not smooth like Chael ever was.
He is not "funny" like Conor was.
But he made his own persona that brings out an emotion out of you... that makes UFC pay him more.

Just look at the idiots that like him in this place.
Stupidity knows no boundaries or limits.
Yes, some like him exactly because they are trolls and they think it is funny to see so many people hating on the guy. But it doesn't matter.
Colby gets talked about.

Heck, I think he even paid that porn actress to expose him!
It doesn't matter to him. All that matters is the green... and he is getting not only paid, but he now got gold around his waist... and NOT for fighting the champ.

 

[SuperNerd]

What Chael is really missing is how people don't need to believe the act to enjoy the act anymore. This is not WWE. People know it is an act, but they don't care. Even he himself admitted Colby openly says this is all an act.

I agree that part of Colby's draw is that he's a try-hard. That's why Rogan's comments are not really harmful and why Sonnen is over reacting imo.

But Sonnen is ultimately right. Rogan can't go around saying "Evans and Rampage really like each other and been acting over the top on TUF, they will hug after the fight" on the show. It would literally ruin the fight for people.

I'm certain that there were people who never saw Colby before his fight with RDA, and that was their introduction. Joe Rogan took away the chance to buy into the show.

 

[Ken Fresno]

I know what his point was. Hes off base here. But hes probably trolling.

So you believe there's no difference in speaking to hardcores on an mma podcast and speaking to casuals on a ppv, and what information those different audiences should be presented from a promotional standpoint?

 

[smithnwssn]

Except Sonnen's words aren't even reaching near the 15% of hardcore's he mentions. Joe's words on the other hand were there to be heard by 100% of the paying customers. There is a clear difference there.

Exactly. The guy you're replying to is an idiot. How he can make a post like that and not even understand Chael's point(which you pointed out) really shows you people are just commenting out their ass.