Law CBS pays out (settles) for election interference

This is an example of why extremists (on both sides) HATE mainstream broadcast news. It's too easily held accountable; broadcast news is regulated and hence can be fined for malpractice like this.
 
You forwarded the assertion that Bezos canned the editorial out of business interest with zero evidence towards the claim. Even behind the scenes reports of what transpired didn't mention his involvement at all. You never substantiated that, yet persisted in arguing this was "extremely damaging to democracies" because of the "erosion" to the "firewall" between business interests and the editorial board when no damage to democracy was done.

You claim not to be histrionic, and yet you spent dozens of posts attributing that action to Bezos without any evidence whatsoever he was involved. You had nothing but your own prejudiced assumption rooted in your biases. Yet nothing has changed at the WaPo. There is no indication of an "erosion" whatsoever. It continues to be a left-wing paper printing left-wing opinions. It continues to be anti-Trump. And there continues to be no evidence Bezos "spiked" the endorsement.
So in your telling of the story, Jeff Bezos suddenly had a philosophical awakening and wanted his publication to pull a 180 editorially, even though that 180 overlaps some with his business interests. Lol ok

As for the bolded part, note that you're commenting in a thread about Trump shaking down a press outlet and by extension threatening the journalistic and media institutions of the country. You got your head really deep in the sand. Or your ass.

Nearly every media and democratic index is sounding the alarm bells that America is backsliding when it comes to a free media and journalism, but of course they must all be biased against Trump or conservatives or whatever your bugaboo fear is.
Is the mask coming off? Make sure to pad that with a contradictory opinion in the next clause so your bias doesn't show. After all, you just attributed this behavior to Trumpers. So maybe people won't notice you were just shown to be entirely wrong about that. The Democrats are doing it, too.
In what way is my opinion contradictory? More of a case doesn't mean you have a legally sound case.

There's absolutely no way you can credibly argue that it's Democrats leading the crackdown on adversarial media and eroding journalism and the norms around it these days. It's not even close the conduct you see from Newsom versus a Trump or even any of his ilk or the FEC.
 
This is an example of why extremists (on both sides) HATE mainstream broadcast news. It's too easily held accountable; broadcast news is regulated and hence can be fined for malpractice like this.
CBS wasn't fined for any malpractice lol. There wasn't even any malpractice alleged in the lawsuit that was settled.
 
Why do you think CBS has changed their editorial process by making full un-edited videos available as a result of this?
I can't know precisely why they did exactly what they did but it looks like party of the capitulation Trump demanded.

Btw you didn't answer my question
So you think unless they posted the full unedited interview it was tantamount to election interference? You do realize that they never air unedited interviews in their standard time slot right? That they're all edited in that way?
Pretty relevant here so I won't answer more of your questions until you address that.
Who cares if nobody sued for this before? Just pointing out that it's unprecedented doesn't mean as much as you think it does.
It shows how you can only get away with what Trump did when you have the leverage of the Oval Office.

Also funny how now you're saying "Who cares if it's never been done before?" after asking me whether CBS had ever edited an interview, which I quickly showed they had.

If anything precedent is much more important in the context of law. The fact that this unprecedented shows how out of the ordinary this case was.
 
So in your telling of the story, Jeff Bezos suddenly had a philosophical awakening and wanted his publication to pull a 180 editorially, even though that 180 overlaps some with his business interests. Lol ok
Concession accepted.
As for the bolded part, note that you're commenting in a thread about Trump shaking down a press outlet and by extension threatening the journalistic and media institutions of the country. You got your head really deep in the sand. Or your ass.

Nearly every media and democratic index is sounding the alarm bells that America is backsliding when it comes to a free media and journalism, but of course they must all be biased against Trump or conservatives or whatever your bugaboo fear is.

In what way is my opinion contradictory? More of a case doesn't mean you have a legally sound case.

There's absolutely no way you can credibly argue that it's Democrats leading the crackdown on adversarial media and eroding journalism and the norms around it these days. It's not even close the conduct you see from Newsom versus a Trump or even any of his ilk or the FEC.
This is a "shakedown" to you. SMH. The only thing that changed was CBS agreed it would be more responsible in disseminating information to the public by not selectively, deceptively editing interviews out of a partisan bias, and to you, this is some mafia-like gangsterland transaction.

Oh, wait, let me guess. You expect everyone else to assume what you assume about Bezos, and his motivations, yet will play dumb that CBS has shown a clear anti-Trump bias for the past decade, and weren't trying to make Harris look better by editing the clip. Tell me...how long did you swallow the bullshit media bodies like CBS trotted out about Biden being "sharp as a tack"?
 
Concession accepted.
There it is, Mick's catchall response for when he realizes he's in over his head.
This is a "shakedown" to you. SMH. The only thing that changed was CBS agreed it would be more responsible in disseminating information to the public by not selectively, deceptively editing interviews out of a partisan bias, and to you, this is some mafia-like gangsterland transaction.
It's a shakedown to me and most credible 1A and media scholars and jurists I've seen comment on it. Do you know of any 1A scholars who think Trump's case was viable and in good faith?

I'm sure you think it's purely a coincidence that Trump went venue shopping before filing, right?
 
There it is, Mick's catchall response for when he realizes he's in over his head.
Or rather it simply acknowledged your implicit concession that, yes, you assumed what you assumed without evidence.
It's a shakedown to me and most credible 1A and media scholars and jurists I've seen comment on it. Do you know of any 1A scholars who think Trump's case was viable and in good faith? I'm sure you think it's purely a coincidence that Trump went venue shopping before filing, right?
How are things working out for you in imaginary-theoretical world? Let me guess: you imagine they're going well.

Spare me these frivolous appeals to authority by virtue of partisan circle-jerking. I remember when Democrats trotted out 4 "constitutional scholars" to a hearing that all insisted Trump incited an insurrection on January 6th to justify their second impeachment of him. It was a joke. Only one of those five academic lawyers offered the correct take. Trump didn't incite an insurrection. He fomented a mob. He certainly was irresponsible with his rhetoric, and he didn't take measures that any sane, conscientious President would have taken in the country's best interests to mollify the mob, but he sure as hell didn't actively incite a rebellion against the US government. He didn't instruct or direct the crowd to invade the Capitol. That insane mob did that all on their own. Naturally, the Senate killed it.

I don't particularly care for politicians suing media bodies, but if all that comes out of it is unedited transcripts, beautiful. Win for everyone.
 
This on the heels of MSM propping up Biden should give you more pause

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I think the folks here defending the DNC and CBS/msm are in total denial about Biden. Nothing was wrong with him and there was no deceptive measures taken to hide Biden nor Harris, even though it was as obvious then, as it is now in hindsight.

A very Savage hack pov
 
I can't know precisely why they did exactly what they did but it looks like party of the capitulation Trump demanded.
Capitulation? Stop it.

Btw you didn't answer my question

Pretty relevant here so I won't answer more of your questions until you address that.
It has been answered several times, by more than just me. We're not talking about a question AND answer that were both committed for time purposes. We are talking about changing the ANSWER to a question that with the purpose of making Kamala more coherent during a time where she was criticized for not doing any interviews and having word salad responses to anything she was asked. You can agree, disagree, or ignore entirely. You will not be getting an answer to this again.

It shows how you can only get away with what Trump did when you have the leverage of the Oval Office.
Or CBS could have just not compromised their journalistic integrity to boost their preferred candidate during an election.

Also funny how now you're saying "Who cares if it's never been done before?" after asking me whether CBS had ever edited an interview, which I quickly showed they had.
Nope. What I asked you was if they had ever edited a Presidential candidates answer to a question as a way to make them look better. You gave an example from an Obama interview where the question AND the answer were removed entirely. It's not the same thing, and I won't be explaining this to you again either,

If anything precedent is much more important in the context of law. The fact that this unprecedented shows how out of the ordinary this case was.
"Out of the ordinary." Great. Nobody cares. It happened and CBS is now paying out the ass.
 
Capitulation? Stop it.
That's what it is. Same with Zuckerberg settling the Trump lawsuit against Facebook.
It has been answered several times, by more than just me. We're not talking about a question AND answer that were both committed for time purposes. We are talking about changing the ANSWER to a question that with the purpose of making Kamala more coherent during a time where she was criticized for not doing any interviews and having word salad responses to anything she was asked. You can agree, disagree, or ignore entirely. You will not be getting an answer to this again.
So you think any editing of an answer is wrong and should be grounds for a lawsuit? Even though these edits have always been done and even if the party filing the suit was not a part of the interview?
Or CBS could have just not compromised their journalistic integrity to boost their preferred candidate during an election.
Again if they wanted to keep viewers from seeing the incoherent answer why would they air that very same answer as the ad to the segment itself? Why was the interviewer's questions also edited? The narrative you're alleging is nonsensical and internally incoherent.
Nope. What I asked you was if they had ever edited a Presidential candidates answer to a question as a way to make them look better. You gave an example from an Obama interview where the question AND the answer were removed entirely. It's not the same thing, and I won't be explaining this to you again either,
That's even worse, they avoided airing a tough question and the president's response. It's also an actual departure from journalistic standards as in general when editing the focus is on including as many questions and responses as possible even if it means shaving them down.
"Out of the ordinary." Great. Nobody cares. It happened and CBS is now paying out the ass.
You don't care because you're a hack who will defend Trump reflexively. But others can see that you're unable to cite even a single case that uses this law in the manner Trump did and its because you know there isn't one and that this is indeed unprecedented and flagrantly in violation of the country norms surrounding free speech intended to silence criticism of Trump. Not just this case but the Facebook and Ann Seltzer cases too as well as his strongarming of law firms. All blatant uses of the office of the presidency to attack his perceived enemies.
 
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Technically that's not what he sued them for, Trump's lawsuit alleges that by editing the Kamala interview Paramount engaged in commercial fraud that undermined Trump as a competitor in the digital content creation space.

Patently absurd imo.
They lost get over it
 
That's what it is. Same with Zuckerberg settling the Trump lawsuit against Facebook.

So you think any editing of an answer is wrong and should be grounds for a lawsuit? Even though these edits have always been done and even if the party filing the suit was not a part of the interview?

Again if they wanted to keep viewers from seeing the incoherent answer why would they air that very same answer as the ad to the segment itself? Why was the interviewer's questions also edited? The narrative you're alleging is nonsensical and internally incoherent.

That's even worse, they avoided airing a tough question and the president's response. It's also an actual departure from journalistic standards as in general when editing the focus is on including a many questions and responses as possible even if it means shaving them down.

You don't care because you're a hack who will defend Trump reflexively. But others can see that you're unable to cite even a single case that uses this law in the manner Trump did and its because you know there isn't one and that this is indeed unprecedented and flagrantly in violation of the country norms surrounding free speech intended to silence criticism of Trump. Not just this case but the Facebook and Ann Seltzer cases too as well as his strongarming of law firms . All blatant uses of the office of the presidency to attack his perceived enemies.

How about do your job and moderate the forum.
 
Or rather it simply acknowledged your implicit concession that, yes, you assumed what you assumed without evidence.
What did I assume without evidence?
Spare me these frivolous appeals to authority by virtue of partisan circle-jerking. I remember when Democrats trotted out 4 "constitutional scholars" to a hearing that all insisted Trump incited an insurrection on January 6th to justify their second impeachment of him. It was a joke. Only one of those five academic lawyers offered the correct take. Trump didn't incite an insurrection. He fomented a mob. He certainly was irresponsible with his rhetoric, and he didn't take measures that any sane, conscientious President would have taken in the country's best interests to mollify the mob, but he sure as hell didn't actively incite a rebellion against the US government. He didn't instruct or direct the crowd to invade the Capitol. That insane mob did that all on their own. Naturally, the Senate killed it.

I don't particularly care for politicians suing media bodies, but if all that comes out of it is unedited transcripts, beautiful. Win for everyone.
That's nice, but what about this case? What's the First Amendment angle besides a blatant attempt to chill speech from adversarial media.

You still can't even describe what journalistic malpractice CBS engaged in. This is embarrassing thing even by your standards.
 
What did I assume without evidence?
Show me the quid pro quo, or GTFO.
That's nice, but what about this case? What's the First Amendment angle besides a blatant attempt to chill speech from adversarial media.
When did I bring up the First Amendment?
You still can't even describe what journalistic malpractice CBS engaged in. This is embarrassing thing even by your standards.
Can you keep track of which posters you're engaging?
 
Show me the quid pro quo, or GTFO.
You don't have to believe me that Bezos was at least partly motivated by financial interests, but that's the kind of gullibility a child who believes in Santa Clause has.
When did I bring up the First Amendment?
You didn't, which is why I pointed out you are glossing over a clear attempt to chill 1A rights by Trump and sympathetic conservatives like yourself.
Can you keep track of which posters you're engaging?
Here's you claiming that CBS engaged in journalistic malpractice, followed by a laughable attempt to talk about about anything but what bad journalism CBS engaged in.
Or are you inventing this hypothetical purely out of your own butthurt that CBS got humbled by Trump for bad journalism?
What bad journalism did CBS participate in? I see you're completely dropping the mask here and going full Trumper.

You got bitchslapped for abusing "confidentiality of sources" as a journalistic ethic in this context. Congratulations on being a shitty journalist who didn't pay attention in class. I understood the limits of that ethic's scope from a 1-semester high school course. Yikes.

"Dropping the mask". LMFAO. God, you're really this dumb, aren't you? You genuinely think my anti-Trumpism is an act.

What is like to live in a world as infected with fear as the chambers of your own mind? You go outside and suddenly whip your head because-- you could have swore-- along the corner of your peripheral vision you saw a Nazi in that tree!

Note that you just rambled again for two paragraphs instead of answering the simple question of "what bad journalism did CBS participate in here"

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!! That's all I hear when I read your whining. You're such a baby. Nothing but hyperbole, always. It's like when you cried 'Death of the free press!' because the Washington Post rescinded its editorial endorsement of Harris of its own volition, but you caterwauled about Bezos going full Hearst. He didn't. Nobody cared. It didn't change a vote. The great fallout was the WaPo continues to have its foot to the floor printing far-left opinions in its editorial section to this very day. Nothing changed.

The same "anti-democratic views that a Trumper holds"....hmm, is that so? It's just the Trumpers, is it? I guess your too busy not knowing shit, like the parameters of journalistic ethics, to keep up with the news.

Gavin Newsom sues Fox News for $787M in defamation case over Trump call


I've noticed a peculiar pattern with types like you. You're only loud and obnoxious with your concern about the suppression of "anti-democratic views" when it's people who share your opinion that are suffering consequences. Hm.
So again, what bad journalism did CBS engage in?
 
So again, what bad journalism did CBS engage in?
Are you serious? Obviously it was changing an answer to a question in an interview, in an attempt to protect their preferred Presidential candidate from looking like the retard she is.

Then again, I'm talking to a guy who thinks the Liberal media was completely fair and balanced in covering up Joe Biden's obvious mental decline. "Cheap fakes", amirite?
 
Are you serious? Obviously it was changing an answer to a question in an interview, in an attempt to protect their preferred Presidential candidate from looking like the retard she is.
So CBS, in a bid go boost Harris, put the longer less eurodite response in the commercial for the interview, even though commercials are seen by more viewers than the actual segment?

Am I doing this conspiracy land stuff right?

So who at CBS want Harris to win enough to engage in this activity?
 
Are you serious? Obviously it was changing an answer to a question in an interview, in an attempt to protect their preferred Presidential candidate from looking like the retard she is.

Then again, I'm talking to a guy who thinks the Liberal media was completely fair and balanced in covering up Joe Biden's obvious mental decline. "Cheap fakes", amirite?
He's the same kind of NPC like the blue name coward who always said "nothing wrong with Biden".
 
So CBS, in a bid go boost Harris
Yes.

Show me the ad where her entire rambling nonsensical response was aired. Oh' that's right, there wasn't one. They cut the response in ads, and then inserted the most favorable short answer they could muster for the interview.

The fact that you guys continue to play dumb over the Liberal media so OBVIOUSLY running interference for their preferred political candidates, is beyond pathetic. You guys really think you're still fooling people, 'eh?. Even after all this, you still have that confidence to tell people not to believe their lying eyes. Unbelievable. I bet you still think Joe Biden is sharp as a tack, too.
 
Yes.

Show me the ad where her entire rambling nonsensical response was aired. Oh' that's right, there wasn't one. They cut the response in ads, and then inserted the most favorable short answer they could muster for the interview.

The fact that you guys continue to play dumb over the Liberal media so OBVIOUSLY running interference for their preferred political candidates, is beyond pathetic. You guys really think you're still fooling people, 'eh?. Even after all this, you still have that confidence to tell people not to believe their lying eyes. Unbelievable. I bet you still think Joe Biden is sharp as a tack, too.
Who at CBS was pulling fof Harris?? Give me their names and titles.
 
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