Law Canadian PM Trudeau: "It will no longer be possible to buy, sell, transfer, or import handguns"

I have not seen definitive data on that. Can you send some. I would assume most handguns are illegally smuggled in, but can’t find that data.
Good luck finding the data.

I dug into this when 80% uppers and other random stuff was arbitrarily outlawed. There's nothing attributing handgun crimes to Canadian sourced firearms.

Should the government not have to prove something is of actual and proven detriment to society if it is to be outlawed? If it can be proven then where's the data?

Nowhere near bulletproof reasoning, I admit, but the onus isn't on law abiding citizens to prove their innocence but rather on the government to illustrate they should be penalized. No such proof exists.
 
i cant make threads cause i got dubbed for posting a link to google maps, but i guess i'll just put this here.

Canada announces decriminalization plan for drug users in B.C.

VANCOUVER — British Columbians who possess up to 2.5 grams of illicit drugs for personal use will not be arrested or charged starting early next year as part of the province's request for an exemption from Canada's drug laws following a record number of overdose deaths.

The three-year exemption effective Jan. 31 will apply to drug users 18 and over and include opioids, cocaine, methamphetamine and MDMA, also known as ecstasy.

Carolyn Bennett, the federal minister of mental health and additions, said granting the exemption request is a significant policy change and the first step in much needed bold action to slow the overdose crisis.

“This is not legalization. We have not taken this decision lightly," she said.

"And with it comes great responsibility for the health, safety and well-being of the people of British Columbia and is a template for other jurisdictions across Canada."


The drugs will also not be seized from those found in possession of under the 2.5-gram threshold.

The allowable amount of illegal substances falls short of the 4.5 grams requested by B.C., that was already deemed too low by some drug-user groups that have criticized the province for failing to adequately consult them.

B.C. will become the first jurisdiction in North America to lift prohibitions on possession of small amounts of so-called hard drugs. In 2020 Oregon decriminalized such possession, but the drugs were still subject to seizure, and those in possession faced a US$100 fine.

B.C. submitted an application to the federal government last November asking for an exemption to the drug laws as part of a public health approach to the overdose crisis, which has killed nearly 10,000 people since an overdose emergency was declared in 2016.

Bennett's B.C. counterpart, Sheila Malcolmson said the approval from the federal government is a major step in changing how people view addiction and drug use in the province.

She said shame and fear have kept people from accessing the care they need, while the concern of being criminalized has led many people to hide their addiction and use drugs alone.

"And using alone can mean dying alone, particularly in this climate of tragically increased illicit drug toxicity," she said.

B.C. provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry said the exemption is a vital step to keeping people alive and helping them connect to the health and social supports they need.

"By removing the fear and shame of drug use, we will be able to remove barriers that prevent people from accessing harm reduction services and treatment programs," Henry said in a statement.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published May 31, 2022.

https://www.delta-optimist.com/nati...inalization-plan-for-drug-users-in-bc-5424596


ahh yes. the vital gram of making sure people are alive, just give them some ecstasy!



Decriminalize criminals, criminalize law abiding citizens that make up the backbone of your society. What could possibly go wrong?


The purposeful destabilization of modern society (westernized society specifically) is another thing that’s pretty alarming when you stop and take a look at it.
 
Canadians don't have a large populace of lunatics looking to overthrow their government so I don't see much backlash to this.
 
You love guns! Great! I just look at the statistics and prefer to take my chances. Fact is families are more likely to use them on each other than a burglar. Why are you so damn mad that I’m just not as into guns as you are? It sounds like you live in an awful area and if that’s the case I’d probably buy some too. Where is this endless information you have about good guys showing up and stopping this stuff? This country has 45000 gun deaths per year. More than automobile accidents.
If you don't like guns, there's already a simple solution: don't buy any.
 
Not without merit. See crime stats not to mention lose your job cant get health care. We keep like 5 million homeless littering our streets as a daily reminder what happens to you if you dont hustle
Yeah, it’s basically a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
Let's see...

seizing bank accounts
taking citizens ability to provide away
stopping gun ownership
arresting peaceful protestors
mandating vaccines

... sounds like a solid plan China Canada!
 
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If by smarter you mean more ignorant then yes you are. Matter of fact my 12 year old daughter is less ignorant than you because when I leave her at home alone she has full access to loaded guns. She can handle a pistol safely and with ease, she's a crack shot too.

Good guy with a gun is a myth? For everyone shooting article you can find, i can find one about someone who prevented a crime with a gun, or defended themselves with a gun. The evidence is endless.

Furthermore you are living in fantasy land. This world is savage, dog eat dog. If the last 2 years have demonstrated anything it's that even people living is first world countries can fall victim to mass violence (something any truly educated person already knew). All these rules and laws that you and others follow, only follow them to your own folly.

You think because you drive a car and live in a house that you aren't subject to the laws of nature? You really believe you are so different and superior than the animals you see on national geographic that you don't need any means of self preservation? Hilariously ignorant, and quite arrogant to be honest.

If you want to be declawed out here in the jungle then that's your prerogative, but keep the rest of us out if your fantasy.
Social darwinism is so 1990s hiphop. Falling victim to mass violence in a first world country is still extremely small, most people won’t experience that. If you we’re talking about the US only idk what the odds are since it’s hardly a first world country anymore (especially at some places).
 
Simply put, we don't have a Canadian sourced hand gun problem here. This isn't debatable. It's a fact.

So if a law does nothing but penalize law abiding citizens, how can it be anything but excessive or overbearing?

For reference amigo, you're conversing with a guy who didn't grasp why a farmer would need a firearm.

Yeah.
 
Yeah those examples are always cherry picked by groups like NRA, the good guy with a gun is largely a myth. Most people act like deer caught in the headlights when a shooting goes off. Yeah I don’t like firearms. Sounds like I’m a lot smarter than you. I have a small kid and owning a firearm puts your family more at risk. You watch too many movies maybe. Not against gun ownership just hate the type who act like everyone is a hero when in reality there are more shootings without any good guys around
It certainly does not sound like you are smarter than him.
 
It certainly does not sound like you are smarter than him.

The statistics speak for themselves. If you own a gun, it is more likely to be used in domestic violence or suicide than used on a burglar. It is all about how you view the risks. I feel safe enough in my neighborhood and I think the chance of my kid doing something dumb is greater. At his age he is too young, maybe when he grows up things will be different or if violence escalates in my area.
 
For reference amigo, you're conversing with a guy who didn't grasp why a farmer would need a firearm.

Yeah.
I think that was a different guy, but we've had mountain lions and grizzlies in Calgary and currently have a coyote problem. That's in a city of over a million people.

Drive a half hour outside of Calgary and the need for pest and predator control becomes a real concern. Nevermind rural crime is increasing and home invasions are a thing on farms now whereas they were virtually unheard of a decade ago.

So having something on hand that goes boom is the smart things to do.
 
The statistics speak for themselves. If you own a gun, it is more likely to be used in domestic violence or suicide than used on a burglar. It is all about how you view the risks. I feel safe enough in my neighborhood and I think the chance of my kid doing something dumb is greater. At his age he is too young, maybe when he grows up things will be different or if violence escalates in my area.

and i guess we should never ride in cars because you're more likely to die in a car crash and blah blah.

statistics!
 
and i guess we should never ride in cars because you're more likely to die in a car crash and blah blah.

statistics!

You're more likely to die by a gun than a car now. Wrong about another thing, but that's to be expected from you.

Also, we are much more strict about cars. You have to take a test, wait six months and gain experience with an adult then once again take another test.
 
I think that was a different guy, but we've had mountain lions and grizzlies in Calgary and currently have a coyote problem. That's in a city of over a million people.

Drive a half hour outside of Calgary and the need for pest and predator control becomes a real concern. Nevermind rural crime is increasing and home invasions are a thing on farms now whereas they were virtually unheard of a decade ago.

So having something on hand that goes boom is the smart things to do.
It reminds me of the grizzly bear hunting ban implemented by the BC NDP in 2017.

Pandering to people who generally aren't involved or informed on the topic to score short term political points.
 
You're more likely to die by a gun than a car now. Wrong about another thing, but that's to be expected from you.

Also, we are much more strict about cars. You have to take a test, wait six months and gain experience with an adult then once again take another test.
I'm pretty sure there are zero background checks for purchasing a vehicle.
 
You're more likely to die by a gun than a car now. Wrong about another thing, but that's to be expected from you.

Also, we are much more strict about cars. You have to take a test, wait six months and gain experience with an adult then once again take another test.

*ahem*

i said you.

weird that you played the statistics card and then immediately argued against the statistics card. totally weird. who could have possibly seen that coming?
 
*ahem*

i said you.

weird that you played the statistics card and then immediately argued against the statistics card. totally weird. who could have possibly seen that coming?

No idea what you're talking about. Again, not surprising coming from you. You never make any sense.
 
It reminds me of the grizzly bear hunting ban implemented by the BC NDP in 2017.

Pandering to people who generally aren't involved or informed on the topic to score short term political points.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/woman-killed-in-bear-attack-in-alberta-1.532865

That happened a few blocks from a buddies house. While looking for it I stumbled on a few more stories of Grizzly attacks in Canmore.

As you said, pandering to the uninformed. Exactly like this new handgun legislation.
 
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