Social Canada Records Lowest Birthrate, 2nd Year in a Row

[Orgasmo]

Canadian government:
1. Import millions of Indian immigrants to drive up housing and take entry level jobs.
2. All social services, infrastructure and education crumbling under weight of massive immigration wave.
3. Drop standard of living for everyone for 4th year straight.
4. "Why aren't young people having kids?"

Canada recorded its lowest ever fertility rate for the second year in a row in 2023, according to Statistics Canada.

The country recorded a rate of 1.26 children born per woman, according to the agency, with British Columbia having the nation's lowest fertility rate at one child per woman.

While the number of births stayed stable compared to 2022, at around 350,000, Statistics Canada says the lower fertility rate is due to the increase in the number of women of childbearing age living in the country in 2023.

"Canada has now joined the group of 'lowest-low' fertility countries, including South Korea, Spain, Italy and Japan, with 1.3 children per woman or less," the agency said in a Wednesday statement. "In comparison, the total fertility rate for the United States was 1.62 per woman in 2023."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/canada-lowest-ever-fertility-rate-1.7338374

 

[Cole train]

Same stuff all around world

South korea is at around 0.6, apperantly very hard to get a kids doctor since future doctors are not going into family care and schools dont have first graders

Interesting times ahead,societies will go through changes i feel

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

There's just so many factors contributing to this I don't see how you can fix it.

Obviously housing cost is the number 1 issue.
Personal debt is a huge factor.
But the social factors are huge too.
You have kids being told from a young age that it's better to be gay or trans than straight and that you should spend your 20s doing a bunch of shit that makes you a less desirable mate once you hit 30.

The good news is every after a total societal collapse, a new society will emerge.

So at this point, we just gotta ride it out.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

A drop in population would be good, but we all know the powers that be will just go to immigration rather than try and find solutions for a slowly reducing population which would be good for the environment and the planet.

 

[Lycandroid]

Sick of this oh its a global issue so we can't bear any of the responsibility bullshit from the government media and the echoing drones.

Of course it's a global issue when you guys all enact the same policies. Doing this despite the obvious repercussions coming to fruition makes it fairly obvious who they are looking to benefit and it isn't you or me.

 

[cmw43]

A drop in population would be good, but we all know the powers that be will just go to immigration rather than try and find solutions for a slowly reducing population which would be good for the environment and the planet.

Global population is expected to peak and decline this century.

All developed countries birthrates are in decline and China having the one child policy for 40 years is gonna see them go from 1.4billion to 750million, India's forecast to decline too.

 

[fedoriswar37]

There's just so many factors contributing to this I don't see how you can fix it.

Obviously housing cost is the number 1 issue.
Personal debt is a huge factor.
But the social factors are huge too.
You have kids being told from a young age that it's better to be gay or trans than straight and that you should spend your 20s doing a bunch of shit that makes you a less desirable mate once you hit 30.

The good news is every after a total societal collapse, a new society will emerge.

So at this point, we just gotta ride it

The untalked about social contagion is actually how social media has isolated some people so much and made them fucking wierd. Most young adult men haven't even had sex let alone partners willing to have kids. Couple that with hookup culture and it's just happening later now.

 

[avenue94]

A drop in population would be good, but we all know the powers that be will just go to immigration rather than try and find solutions for a slowly reducing population which would be good for the environment and the planet.

In what world is a dropping population in one of the least densely populated countries that also has significant social safety nets?

People are oddly blaming immigration for lower birth rates even though the latter predates the former in nearly every developed nation.

 

[nhbbear]

Don’t worry, canucks. Once all those immigrants get settled, your birth rates will skyrocket

 

[Scheme]

In what world is a dropping population in one of the least densely populated countries that also has significant social safety nets?

People are oddly blaming immigration for lower birth rates even though the latter predates the former in nearly every developed nation.

Canada is densely populated near the border, i.e. anywhere people (especially immigrants) want to live. Toronto is the one of if not the most densely populated cities in North America. Vancouver and Montreal are around #3 and #4.

Toronto Solidifies Highest Density Ranking in North America | Newgeography.com

www.newgeography.com

And guess what, house price to income ratios are higher or about equal in these metros than the most expensive places in America:

Property Prices in Canada

Average property prices and property investment indexes in Canada.

www.numbeo.com

Rank	City	Price To Income Ratio	Gross Rental Yield City Centre	Gross Rental Yield Outside of Centre	Price To Rent Ratio City Centre	Price To Rent Ratio Outside Of City Centre	Mortgage As A Percentage Of Income	Affordability Index
1	Hamilton	28.9	1.6	1.8	61.1	56.6	264.8	0.4
2	Surrey	20.2	3.4	3.1	29.2	32.6	185.4	0.5
3	Vancouver	13.9	4.2	5.0	23.9	19.9	123.9	0.8
4	Victoria	13.3	5.3	4.3	18.7	23.1	119.7	0.8
5	Toronto	12.7	3.9	4.1	25.8	24.5	112.8	0.9
6	Kelowna	11.8	4.1	6.2	24.2	16.0	107.3	0.9
7	Quebec City	11.8	2.2	5.6	45.8	17.9	110.7	0.9
8	Mississauga	11.5	4.3	4.6	23.4	21.7	103.3	1.0
9	Kamloops	11.4	4.5	5.2	22.5	19.3	104.4	1.0
10	Montreal	11.0	3.6	4.7	27.6	21.3	96.3	1.0

Property Prices in United States

Average property prices and property investment indexes in United States.

www.numbeo.com

Rank	City	Price To Income Ratio	Gross Rental Yield City Centre	Gross Rental Yield Outside of Centre	Price To Rent Ratio City Centre	Price To Rent Ratio Outside Of City Centre	Mortgage As A Percentage Of Income	Affordability Index
1	New York, NY	12.8	5.5	5.2	18.2	19.1	116.6	0.9
2	Brooklyn, NY	11.2	6.2	6.9	16.1	14.4	100.5	1.0
3	Honolulu, HI	10.4	5.4	5.0	18.5	20.2	94.4	1.1
4	Queens, NY	8.6	6.5	7.9	15.5	12.6	78.5	1.3
5	Boston, MA	7.9	5.8	7.2	17.2	13.9	71.0	1.4
6	San Francisco, CA	7.3	5.9	5.2	17.0	19.3	65.7	1.5
7	San Diego, CA	7.2	6.3	7.1	15.9	14.2	64.4	1.6
8	Long Beach, CA	7.1	6.9	6.1	14.4	16.3	64.8	1.5
9	San Jose, CA	7.1	6.1	5.1	16.3	19.8	64.2	1.6
10	Washington, DC	7.0	6.1	6.9	16.4	14.5	62.8	1.6

The #21 city in Canada (Markham) has a higher housing price to income ratio than #5 Boston. And Markham is no Boston by far.

 

[Natural Order]

The inherent flaws in capitalism.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Don’t worry, canucks. Once all those immigrants get settled, your birth rates will skyrocket

I feel bad for immigrants here. Moving here for the 'dream' and ending up living four families to a one family home and working at Tim Hortons. A lot of them end up moving home when they realize they've been sold a lie.

The systemic problems Canada has can't be fixed with immigration, bumping up the birth rate is just a band aid solution. The boomers aren't going anywhere. They're in their 70s now and half of them are going to live to be 90+. The common refrain I hear is 'well at least once the boomers die off...' but I know plenty of boomers and they have no intention of dying off for another 2-3 decades. In a lot of cases their kids will die before them.

It's only going to get worse.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

The inherent flaws in capitalism.

Canada's problems have nothing to do with capitalism lmao. It's a purely socialist system.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Canada is densely populated near the border, i.e. anywhere people (especially immigrants) want to live. Toronto is the one of if not the most densely populated cities in North America. Vancouver and Montreal are around #3 and #4.

Toronto Solidifies Highest Density Ranking in North America | Newgeography.com

www.newgeography.com

And guess what, house price to income ratios are higher or about equal in these metros than the most expensive places in America:

Property Prices in Canada

Average property prices and property investment indexes in Canada.

www.numbeo.com

Rank	City	Price To Income Ratio	Gross Rental Yield City Centre	Gross Rental Yield Outside of Centre	Price To Rent Ratio City Centre	Price To Rent Ratio Outside Of City Centre	Mortgage As A Percentage Of Income	Affordability Index
1	Hamilton	28.9	1.6	1.8	61.1	56.6	264.8	0.4
2	Surrey	20.2	3.4	3.1	29.2	32.6	185.4	0.5
3	Vancouver	13.9	4.2	5.0	23.9	19.9	123.9	0.8
4	Victoria	13.3	5.3	4.3	18.7	23.1	119.7	0.8
5	Toronto	12.7	3.9	4.1	25.8	24.5	112.8	0.9
6	Kelowna	11.8	4.1	6.2	24.2	16.0	107.3	0.9
7	Quebec City	11.8	2.2	5.6	45.8	17.9	110.7	0.9
8	Mississauga	11.5	4.3	4.6	23.4	21.7	103.3	1.0
9	Kamloops	11.4	4.5	5.2	22.5	19.3	104.4	1.0
10	Montreal	11.0	3.6	4.7	27.6	21.3	96.3	1.0

Property Prices in United States

Average property prices and property investment indexes in United States.

www.numbeo.com

Rank	City	Price To Income Ratio	Gross Rental Yield City Centre	Gross Rental Yield Outside of Centre	Price To Rent Ratio City Centre	Price To Rent Ratio Outside Of City Centre	Mortgage As A Percentage Of Income	Affordability Index
1	New York, NY	12.8	5.5	5.2	18.2	19.1	116.6	0.9
2	Brooklyn, NY	11.2	6.2	6.9	16.1	14.4	100.5	1.0
3	Honolulu, HI	10.4	5.4	5.0	18.5	20.2	94.4	1.1
4	Queens, NY	8.6	6.5	7.9	15.5	12.6	78.5	1.3
5	Boston, MA	7.9	5.8	7.2	17.2	13.9	71.0	1.4
6	San Francisco, CA	7.3	5.9	5.2	17.0	19.3	65.7	1.5
7	San Diego, CA	7.2	6.3	7.1	15.9	14.2	64.4	1.6
8	Long Beach, CA	7.1	6.9	6.1	14.4	16.3	64.8	1.5
9	San Jose, CA	7.1	6.1	5.1	16.3	19.8	64.2	1.6
10	Washington, DC	7.0	6.1	6.9	16.4	14.5	62.8	1.6

The #21 city in Canada (Markham) has a higher housing price to income ratio than #5 Boston. And Markham is no Boston by far.

This can't be right.

There's just no way New York isn't the clear #1 most densely populated city in the US. And there's less than zero chance that freakin' LA is more dense. Wacky chart.

 

[Natural Order]

Canada's problems have nothing to do with capitalism lmao. It's a purely socialist system.

Wrong. There’s a multitude of factors. The problematic needs of capitalism are rearing themselves all over the world. Its not just Canada.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Wrong. There’s a multitude of factors. The problematic needs of capitalism are rearing themselves all over the world. Its not just Canada.

I guess when you're a hammer (and sickle) everything looks like a nail.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Canada is densely populated near the border, i.e. anywhere people (especially immigrants) want to live. Toronto is the one of if not the most densely populated cities in North America. Vancouver and Montreal are around #3 and #4.

Toronto Solidifies Highest Density Ranking in North America | Newgeography.com

www.newgeography.com

And guess what, house price to income ratios are higher or about equal in these metros than the most expensive places in America:

Property Prices in Canada

Average property prices and property investment indexes in Canada.

www.numbeo.com

Rank	City	Price To Income Ratio	Gross Rental Yield City Centre	Gross Rental Yield Outside of Centre	Price To Rent Ratio City Centre	Price To Rent Ratio Outside Of City Centre	Mortgage As A Percentage Of Income	Affordability Index
1	Hamilton	28.9	1.6	1.8	61.1	56.6	264.8	0.4
2	Surrey	20.2	3.4	3.1	29.2	32.6	185.4	0.5
3	Vancouver	13.9	4.2	5.0	23.9	19.9	123.9	0.8
4	Victoria	13.3	5.3	4.3	18.7	23.1	119.7	0.8
5	Toronto	12.7	3.9	4.1	25.8	24.5	112.8	0.9
6	Kelowna	11.8	4.1	6.2	24.2	16.0	107.3	0.9
7	Quebec City	11.8	2.2	5.6	45.8	17.9	110.7	0.9
8	Mississauga	11.5	4.3	4.6	23.4	21.7	103.3	1.0
9	Kamloops	11.4	4.5	5.2	22.5	19.3	104.4	1.0
10	Montreal	11.0	3.6	4.7	27.6	21.3	96.3	1.0

Property Prices in United States

Average property prices and property investment indexes in United States.

www.numbeo.com

Rank	City	Price To Income Ratio	Gross Rental Yield City Centre	Gross Rental Yield Outside of Centre	Price To Rent Ratio City Centre	Price To Rent Ratio Outside Of City Centre	Mortgage As A Percentage Of Income	Affordability Index
1	New York, NY	12.8	5.5	5.2	18.2	19.1	116.6	0.9
2	Brooklyn, NY	11.2	6.2	6.9	16.1	14.4	100.5	1.0
3	Honolulu, HI	10.4	5.4	5.0	18.5	20.2	94.4	1.1
4	Queens, NY	8.6	6.5	7.9	15.5	12.6	78.5	1.3
5	Boston, MA	7.9	5.8	7.2	17.2	13.9	71.0	1.4
6	San Francisco, CA	7.3	5.9	5.2	17.0	19.3	65.7	1.5
7	San Diego, CA	7.2	6.3	7.1	15.9	14.2	64.4	1.6
8	Long Beach, CA	7.1	6.9	6.1	14.4	16.3	64.8	1.5
9	San Jose, CA	7.1	6.1	5.1	16.3	19.8	64.2	1.6
10	Washington, DC	7.0	6.1	6.9	16.4	14.5	62.8	1.6

The #21 city in Canada (Markham) has a higher housing price to income ratio than #5 Boston. And Markham is no Boston by far.

Kamloops being on that list is insane. It's full of trailer parks.

 

[Scheme]

This can't be right.

There's just no way New York isn't the clear #1 most densely populated city in the US. And there's less than zero chance that freakin' LA is more dense. Wacky chart.

The original graph is referring to "urban areas" rather than distinct city lines, since population centers often sprawl over those.

2020 Census Urban Areas Facts

Tallies, percentages, and rankings of urban and rural areas in the United States, Puerto Rico, and the Island Areas.

www.census.gov

Most Densely Populated 2020 Census Urban Areas (200,000 or More Population)​

Urban Area	Population	Land Area (square miles)	Population Density
Los Angeles--Long Beach--Anaheim, CA	12,237,376	1,636.83	7,476
San Francisco--Oakland, CA	3,515,933	513.80	6,843
San Jose, CA	1,837,446	285.48	6,436
New York--Jersey City--Newark, NY--NJ	19,426,449	3,248.12	5,981
Honolulu, HI	853,252	144.97	5,886
Modesto, CA	357,301	70.38	5,077
Las Vegas--Henderson--Paradise, NV	2,196,623	435.29	5,046
Oxnard--San Buenaventura (Ventura), CA	376,117	76.61	4,910
Miami--Fort Lauderdale, FL	6,077,522	1,244.18	4,888
San Diego, CA	3,070,300	674.72	4,551[/quo

 

[Possum Jenkins]

All developed countries birthrates are in decline and China having the one child policy for 40 years is gonna see them go from 1.4billion to 750million, India's forecast to decline too.

Not just developed countries, most developing and middle-income countries are seeing population declines as well.

Replacement level is somewhere between 2.1 - 2.3 children so all the countries in pink are under while the ones in light blue are growing but very slowly. And all countries are trending downwards.

It's a global phenomenon with tons of factors.

The usual geniuses are of course gonna blame the globalists, immigration, Marxism, and everything else but in reality it's much bigger than that.

 

[irish_thug]

Markham is no Boston by far.

Understatement of the century. Markham has absolutely nothing of value. It is literally just a place to live.