Can we talk about overrated bands?

[BisexualMMA]

I would call Kiss the first hair metal band. Back in the day, hair metal was called pop metal. Most hair metal groups in the 80s were really influenced by Kiss and Van Halen. It doesn't age very well though

I thought Alive One was good

All of the Alive albums were decent at the worst. The first three anyway...I don't know if they have released more. I think most of the hair metal from back then has aged reasonably well. Virtually all of the bands of some note have at least one song that I think has held up, even down to White Lion and Ratt and WASP and Cinderella. With a few bands, I think most of their catalogue from that era has held up extremely well. As for Kiss...they have maybe eight songs that I would keep in my rotation and that's something I can't say for all that many artists.

 

[Busgosu]

Rush
Black Sabbath

Ban

 

[Ares Black]

I don't think I could be friends with someone who doesn't like Queen.

 

[Nathan LaMontagne]

You could argue that not knowing those three songs besides Bohemian Rhapsody does atest to them having a good deal of variety I spose. I think if you were going to be critical of them it would be more that they were mostly a singles band but still that does amount to a lot of good stuff as I don't think they ever badly dropped off whilst Freddy was alive.

Nirvana I spose the most obvious argument is the Pixies were better and maybe that setting the starndard for Grunge doesnt really carry the same importance now the movements had its day.

From my youth I spose Oasis rather stand out, were hyped as gods at the time but honestly I find only some of the really early stuff like Columbia that played up the noise and snarkiness to be especially great, besides that its actually those Noel acoustic B-sides are the main thing I listen to that often anymore.

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Agreed Pixies were vastly superior.

Nirvana ripped off the Killing Joke as well.
Look up the song eighties. Direct rip off.

 

[Busgosu]

I wonder how many of these clowns in the thread have put together two chords in their entire life

 

[Rand M Arthur]

RATM. Just the fact that Tom Morello likes to regularly name drop that he went to Harvard as a gotcha, whilst being rich and famous from a band that is about tearing down the elite. There are only, and precicely, two schools who are more blue blood than Harvard in the English speaking world. They have a few catchy songs, but are posers through and through.

 

[jericksen5]

Weezer has two good albums, their first and second, and then just a handful of alright tracks.

While that’s 100% accurate, the Blue Album was/is so good, they deserved to live off the laurels of that one album for the rest of their lives.

I’ll add that Pinkerton was a great album as well, but was the literal direct inspiration for all the annoying whiny acoustic emo bands that followed like dashboard confessional. Which makes me view Pinkerton far less favorably.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Thread is about what I expected.

 

[Mesos]

I'll start with some obvious ones and then you guys can fill in the rest.

Nirvana: Of all the overrated bands none is more overrated than these guys. Seriously, how do they get called one of the greatest ever? They have one good album and was only around for about 3 years. Every song is just simple power chord stuff with incoherent lyrics. If Cobain doesn't kill himself they'd be lucky to be considered a top 100 band.

Queen: They have 3 amazing songs. Every thing else Is either sub par or lame.

Foo fighters: the ultimate dad rock band. Their debut album was ok and everything else since then has gotten progressively worse. It's like they intentionally make music for suburban moms who need something to listen to when they drive to the mall to buy their husband a sweater. Some of the safest blandest shit you'll hear in your life.

Nirvana actually accomplished something great and ushered in the grunge era. Foo fighters though... is sooo overrated lol. I actually respect Dave Grohl as a drummer far more than I do as a Singer/guitar player which I think he is average at.

Dave should drum more often, he is excellent.

 

[Blacksonville]

For some reason Lenny Kravitz and the Red Hot Chili Peppers have their shittiest songs become their biggest hits. They both have good stuff but then shit like Dani California and Fly Away become their signature songs.

Maybe its because I'm a bit older, but "Are Ya Gonna Go My Way" and "Under The Bridge" are what I consider their signature songs... but your argument still holds...

 

[Blacksonville]

As a guitar player, we all hated Nirvana back in the day because they basically dumbed down the guitar until basically even today if you think about it. Not a whole lot of guitar complexity came out of mainstream rock after they got big and took over.

Now that I'm older, I will say this. Try and write a simple 4 chord song that sounds as good as anything Nirvana did. Guarantee you can't write a melody that's close to as catchy to even any of their mid level hits. Seems easy but it's not. Kurt had a knack for writing melodies. Even Dave Grohl who is a pro himself said he just sat back and let Kurt do the work because he was way better at it than Dave was.

Yeah but man "guitar complexity" is so ludacriously dumb and the absolute shittiest 'creative musician' in the band room will ALWAYS be the stunt-guitarist and his lame sweep picked arpeggios. I grew up in that area, I got sucked into that horseshit and its musically counterproductive. Wish I had realized it sooner.

What happened here is you grew up and realized the distinction bewtween 'impressive instrument technique' and the creative act of writing music that's good to listen to and a lightbulb went off. Yes, I still own a few Ibanezes and Charvels and Kramers and shred guitars from that era, and love them, but the whole 'music as a showcase for guitar heroics' thing of the 80s died for a reason. Kind of like that weird 'altered tuning acoustic fingerstyle' blip that happened in the 00s...

It came and went because once the novelty wears off, there's really nothing there.

 

[Be the ball]

Guns n Roses

5 finger death punch

 

[DougieJones]

I agree with l examples in the op.

I'll add Metallica. Gateway metal band who had 3 good albums. Rest of them are trash.

Metallica is always the first band that pops into my head when asked this question. They really are the definition of 'gateway band' lol.

Megadeth is 100x superior

 

[650lb Sumo]

Green Day and Nirvana are good choices. But for me the number one has to be RHCP. I have no idea how they are a fraction as popular as they are.

Beatles

 

[Herwald]

The few Queen songs played everywhere over and over again are indeed overrated, but you cannot tell me the rest of their discography isn't underrated.



Nirvaner I was never into and Foo Fighters are fine to me. Not a lover or a hater.

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

Yeah but man "guitar complexity" is so ludacriously dumb and the absolute shittiest 'creative musician' in the band room will ALWAYS be the stunt-guitarist and his lame sweep picked arpeggios. I grew up in that area, I got sucked into that horseshit and its musically counterproductive. Wish I had realized it sooner.

What happened here is you grew up and realized the distinction bewtween 'impressive instrument technique' and the creative act of writing music that's good to listen to and a lightbulb went off. Yes, I still own a few Ibanezes and Charvels and Kramers and shred guitars from that era, and love them, but the whole 'music as a showcase for guitar heroics' thing of the 80s died for a reason. Kind of like that weird 'altered tuning acoustic fingerstyle' blip that happened in the 00s...

It came and went because once the novelty wears off, there's really nothing there.

Yeah I remember everyone talking about Steve Vai, Satriani, Malmsteen etc back in the day like they were gods.

Obviously a riff doesn't have to be complex to sound good but the complexity of a simple Metallica rhythm riff vs. a Godsmack rythm riff are night and day. Godsmack has done some cool stuff but their riffs are just a few tiers below Hetfield's. I remember when I first heard the riff to Hail to the King by Avenged Sevenfold. I was like god damn how did I not create that back when I was trying to write music? The simplest riff ever, yet it took decades for a band to come up with it.

 

[I Am Legion]

Metallica is always the first band that pops into my head when asked this question. They really are the definition of 'gateway band' lol.

Megadeth is 100x superior

Nothing Megadeath ever did compares to Kill Em All, Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets. I love Megadeath they are just not on the same level. Mustaine's Vocals are just too weak and the songs are not as strong. Metallica took a break in the 90s with a few hard rock Albums but the last two are brilliant again.

 

[I Am Legion]

Guns n Roses

5 finger death punch

Guns N Roses? AFD is one of the best top to bottom albums of all time....One of the best guitarists with an amazing Rhythm guitarist. Great drumming and Bass work. Axl was at his best. A bluesy rock inspired classic.

 

[I Am Legion]

Most musicians cant even make a hit song and bands in here are getting trashed for making multiple good albums. We cant all be angsty 20 somethings forever.
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Imagine Dragons are the definition of a trash over produced band getting shoved into the mainstream. Every single song they make has the same structure and "anthem" sound like they make music strictly for commercials.

They are Garbage. This is music for Baristas. Muse and Coldplay suck too.

 

[Be the ball]

Guns N Roses? AFD is one of the best top to bottom albums of all time....One of the best guitarists with an amazing Rhythm guitarist. Great drumming and Bass work. Axl was at his best. A bluesy rock inspired classic.

Overrated bands, not overrated musicians.

Guns n Roses is a loser band with loser vibes. Welcome to the jungle is awesome, but whenever I hear any of their songs I think of all the zero low lifes that are huge guns n roses fans and get an overwhelming loser vibe.

I see a few posts down you say Coldplay is overrated. I would argue that they are underrated. Different strokes.