Calzaghe vs Hopkins trouble at the gate, and other qu's

Discussion in 'Boxing Discussion' started by thesharktank, Apr 18, 2008.

  1. thesharktank

    thesharktank Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2007
    Messages:
    2,593
    Likes Received:
    379
    Is anybody else suprised that Calzghe Hopkins is (reportedly) having such a hard time selling out, and the promoters are looking to lose upwards of 5 mil. I know Calzaghe isn't the biggest star in the states but I thought he still had some pretty decent noteriety and thought there would definetly be excitement in vegas to see him fight seeing as its his first bout in the USA.

    who is going to get come out second for this fight? just wondering, Id guess hopkins but im not sure.
     
  2. prontostar

    prontostar Gymmy TUNDAH!

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2003
    Messages:
    7,593
    Likes Received:
    4
    $1,500 for ringside seats must be the reason.
     
  3. BobbyBrez

    BobbyBrez Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,572
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Boston & Vegas
    Surprised? No.

    I saved myself.... well, a lot, by passing on the bulk of tickets I was offered including suite boxes. I mentioned a few days ago that if anyone is coming out here for the fight, I can get you in for rediculous prices. Well below face value for great tickets... can even handle a 20 person suite box.
     
  4. prontostar

    prontostar Gymmy TUNDAH!

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2003
    Messages:
    7,593
    Likes Received:
    4
    you should find some UK fans and get them to give you pounds...
     
  5. FIGHT FAN

    FIGHT FAN Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Pier 6
    calzaghe is not ricky hatton(cal is still bringing over a boat load), and hopkins is well hopkins.... not exactly a mega star. tickets are expensive(they always are), but fans will pay for the right fight. holding fights in vegas has become a drag, sure everybody makes money, but the appeal and the atmosphere is not there. this fight would get 60,000 in wales, in vegas i don't think they will fight to more than ten thousand.
     
  6. Cracky

    Cracky Fanny Pack

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2007
    Messages:
    12,764
    Likes Received:
    317
    Location:
    Norman,OK
    250 dollar minimum ticket price. Rocky Marciano and Jack Dempsey could travel through time to face off in an epic battle and it would still struggle to sell out with those types of prices.
     
  7. FIGHT FAN

    FIGHT FAN Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Pier 6
    what were the prices for jones-tito?
     
  8. Combmosove**

    Combmosove** Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,429
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dump Street
    Well I heard both B-Hop and Joe will make 3 million each and rumour has it HBO is paying alot of that because they didnt want to put this fight on PPV.
     
  9. BobbyBrez

    BobbyBrez Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,572
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Boston & Vegas
    Not true. And not true.

    $350 is the face on the balconies, I'm looking at some of the tix now.

    Can't compare Vegas prices to NYC prices for fights. Apples to oranges.
     
  10. ecchymotic

    ecchymotic Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2007
    Messages:
    583
    Likes Received:
    0
    'brez, you going to the fight? i have seen bernard fight twice; winky and ODLH. i am excited to see 'zag live...the undercard starts at 14:00, dont know what to make of that unless the main is scheduled to go off around 17:00?
     
  11. a jessup

    a jessup Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2007
    Messages:
    837
    Likes Received:
    10
    Location:
    In the mind
    The promoters didn't do their research. As the low ratings for Zag/Kessler proved, Calzaghe is unknown in America. Hopkins doesn't have the starpower of Floyd or RJJ, so it comes down to attracting the blue collar UK fan, who can't afford the pricy seats the promoters wanted.

    That's my take.
     
  12. sushijin

    sushijin Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3,185
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Rialto, CA USA
    You guessed right. The champion always gets to enter the ring after the challenger, and be announced second as well. The fight is for Hopkins' LHW title, so it will be the first time Calzaghe has been in this position for quite some time.
     
  13. Kid McCoy

    Kid McCoy Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2003
    Messages:
    7,359
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    The seat of global power
    At those prices I don't think Chung Lee would sell out either.


    B.H. : 'I Would Never Let a White Boy Beat Me'

    J.C. :
     
  14. Hofmeyr

    Hofmeyr Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2007
    Messages:
    1,177
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Seven Seas
    Will be intense. I always enjoy the walk-outs almost as much as the fight, this one will be awesome.

    Cut it out man, keep it clean.

     
  15. FIGHT FAN

    FIGHT FAN Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Pier 6
     
  16. consortium11

    consortium11 Slip The Jab

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2004
    Messages:
    9,187
    Likes Received:
    22
    I think people saw how big a draw Hatton was, saw that Calzaghe appeared to have a similar personality, was the "other" popular UK fighter at the time and thought he could get the same numbers.

    It wasn't to be.

    They forgot that the Calzaghe/Kessler fight was meant to draw 60,000+ people, and barely made 50k in Calzaghe's backyard. They forgot the poor ratings the match got in the US, and they also forgot that Calzaghe is far from a ratings winner for domestic tv.

    Calzaghe used briefly had the equivalent of a network contract, where he'd fight on one of the big 4 tv channels at prime-time with a huge amount of advertising. Then he fought Manfredo, who despite his lack of comparable talent was somewhat of a draw due to the Contender.

    The ratings bombed, and Calzaghe is now fighting on a subscription channel (and not even one of the "big" ones, but one you have to pay an additional fee to get). He just doesn't inspire the way that Hatton does.

    I still have no idea how he won BBC SPotY... I could have sworn Hamilton would get it on the basis of following the great british tradition of nearly winning before falling apart when it matters.

    Despite that, he's still apparently bringing 8000 fans over.
     
  17. BobbyBrez

    BobbyBrez Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,572
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Boston & Vegas
    The card goes off earlier than normal to be more hospitable to UK fans live.

    Calzaghe's after-party is tomorrow night at JET Nightclub.
     
  18. GlassJaw

    GlassJaw SBC hustler.

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    6,542
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Buck Owens, CA
     
  19. EsercitoBlu

    EsercitoBlu Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    1,000
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    England! You Know It Makes Sense
    Even though Calzaghe has had major success he has never had the public backing of say Nigel Benn,Frank Bruno or Ricky Hatton.Millions used to tune in to watch Chris Eubank (hoping to see him lose) I think a lot of it is down to satellite tv and the loss of boxing on terrestrial tv,in the old days viewers could watch potential champions for free and watch their careers grow but nowadays they are on subscription channels which are only subscribed to by sports fans and not the casual viewer.
     
  20. BobbyBrez

    BobbyBrez Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,572
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Boston & Vegas

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.