Opinion California on fire

[avenue94]

Just another Democrat failure, as they were stealing money that could have been used to fix the reservoir quickly. Instead, they were taking the taxpayer's payer $$$ for a bogus security deal. They also should have been clearing the brush.

Now that they have cleared the 70+% elite rich from the area that all voted Democrat, they can build high-density housing. Watch it happen.

Assuming your conspiracy theory is true, why is rebuilding the area with more dense housing a bad idea?

 

[fingercuffs]

So you are as bad as him, congrats.

Who? Mango Molester or Hot Wheels?

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[SurferH2O]

Assuming your conspiracy theory is true, why is rebuilding the area with more dense housing a bad idea?

Congestion, crime, school crowding, and much more. Pacific Palisades was already crowded with rich people; it will be fun to increase that crowd size with poor people to see what happens next.

 

[avenue94]

Congestion, crime, school crowding, and much more. Pacific Palisades was already crowded with rich people; it will be fun to increase that crowd size with poor people to see what happens next.

The palisades have a very lower population density, and shifting to multifamily housing and not mansions doesn't automatically increase crime.

You can't complain about homelessness and housing costs in California and then turn around and claim the Palisades should be built as a bunch of mansions and single family homes again lol. Pick a lane.

 

[SurferH2O]

The palisades have a very lower population density, and shifting to multifamily housing and not mansions doesn't automatically increase crime.

You can't complain about homelessness and housing costs in California and then turn around and claim the Palisades should be built as a bunch of mansions and single family homes again lol. Pick a lane.

You've never driven through Pacific Palisades... ZERO residential parking before the fire. I spent many holidays and events there, and parking absolutely sucks. Also, the streets are skinny, so it's often a one-way street as it's parked out.... even though it's meant for 2 ways.

 

[avenue94]

You've never driven through Pacific Palisades... ZERO residential parking before the fire. I spent many holidays and events there, and parking absolutely sucks. Also, the streets are skinny, so it's often a one-way street as it's parked out.... even though it's meant for 2 ways.

I've been through several times. The Palisades has less than 10 percent the population density of Santa Monica.

We could also always just rebuild the area with better public transit or wider streets or less mansions.

"There's too many luxury cars clogging the streets and I can't park"

You act like this is some huge problem we can't possibly surmount.

 

[SurferH2O]

I've been through several times. The Palisades has less than 10 percent the population density of Santa Monica.

We could also always just rebuild the area with better public transit or wider streets or less mansions.

"There's too many luxury cars clogging the streets and I can't park"

You act like this is some huge problem we can't possibly surmount.

It's steep hills... You can't build on those.

You don't get to expand the streets without taking property away from most of the residents. Your "solution" is to put high-density housing where it does not belong.

 

[avenue94]

It's steep hills... You can't build on those.

You don't get to expand the streets without taking property away from most of the residents. Your "solution" is to put high-density housing where it does not belong.

I say let the market decide, if people want to sell their lots and developers want to build more density, the government shouldn't block it.

There's no reason to build a rich enclave if the market supports more accessible housing costs.

 

[ShadowRun]

Good , Cali his failed their citizens

 

[Scerpi]

Good , Cali his failed their citizens

California is run by morons...

The Palisades Fire started State Officials didn't allow a previous fireto be put fully out to prevent damage to "protected" plant life. Never mind that plant life ended up go up in flames along with 1,600 homes

First they pulled the firefighters before the Lachman Fire was fully put out...

Then didn't report that the fire was smoldering days later.

Palisades fire victims claim a state park official restricted efforts to fight earlier blaze​

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-11-19/palisades-fire-victims-claim-state-park-official-restricted-efforts-to-fight-earlier-blaze

Alexander “Trey” Robertson, one of the attorneys who filed the complaint against the state, told The Times that a fire official up on the Lachman burn scar Jan. 1 alleged that a California State Parks representative told them “they couldn’t bring a bulldozer in to cut a line around the fire and they could not do mop-up with their hand tools, dig up around any native plant species.”

“They basically put plants over people and wouldn’t let the firefighters attempt to fully mop up this fire.”

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State Parks employees didn't report smoldering Lachman Fire before it exploded into Palisades Fire, testimony reveals​

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/state-parks-employees-didnt-report-smoldering-lachman-fire-before-it-exploded-into-palisades-fire-testimony-reveals/3829043/

Then the State Park tried to claim they weren't onsite... but yeah, another lie

 

[LeonardoBjj]

California is run by morons...

The Palisades Fire started State Officials didn't allow a previous fireto be put fully out to prevent damage to "protected" plant life. Never mind that plant life ended up go up in flames along with 1,600 homes

First they pulled the firefighters before the Lachman Fire was fully put out...

Then didn't report that the fire was smoldering days later.

Palisades fire victims claim a state park official restricted efforts to fight earlier blaze​

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-11-19/palisades-fire-victims-claim-state-park-official-restricted-efforts-to-fight-earlier-blaze

Alexander “Trey” Robertson, one of the attorneys who filed the complaint against the state, told The Times that a fire official up on the Lachman burn scar Jan. 1 alleged that a California State Parks representative told them “they couldn’t bring a bulldozer in to cut a line around the fire and they could not do mop-up with their hand tools, dig up around any native plant species.”

“They basically put plants over people and wouldn’t let the firefighters attempt to fully mop up this fire.”

​

State Parks employees didn't report smoldering Lachman Fire before it exploded into Palisades Fire, testimony reveals​

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/state-parks-employees-didnt-report-smoldering-lachman-fire-before-it-exploded-into-palisades-fire-testimony-reveals/3829043/

Then the State Park tried to claim they weren't onsite... but yeah, another lie

- I've got firefighters friends there. Dont know how they are

 

[ShadowRun]

At some point people failing this hard , need to be held accountable

veteran Los Angeles-area fire chief ripped into Mayor Karen Bass for her “failure of leadership” by taking a trip to Africa just days before the deadly fires erupted.

Redondo Beach Fire Chief Patrick Butler took direct aim at mayor Bass and California officials under Governor Gavin Newsom, saying their dysfunctional leadership during the crisis worsened the devastation from the inferno that erupted on January 7.

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations is conducting an ongoing probe that could ultimately determine who was responsible for the blaze.



During the critical preparedness period, the mayor was out of the country despite knowledge of the forecasted life-threatening conditions,” Butler said, referencing Bass’s controversial trip to Ghana Africa before the fires.

”Responsibility for continuity of leadership and citywide coordination rests with the mayor, and in this case, that responsibility was not met

 

[KnightTemplar]

Remember when Gsvin Newsom pretended to be on the phone to Biden rather than speak to a woman who's daughter's school burned down?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

 

[Scerpi]

At some point people failing this hard , need to be held accountable

veteran Los Angeles-area fire chief ripped into Mayor Karen Bass for her “failure of leadership” by taking a trip to Africa just days before the deadly fires erupted.

Redondo Beach Fire Chief Patrick Butler took direct aim at mayor Bass and California officials under Governor Gavin Newsom, saying their dysfunctional leadership during the crisis worsened the devastation from the inferno that erupted on January 7.

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations is conducting an ongoing probe that could ultimately determine who was responsible for the blaze.



During the critical preparedness period, the mayor was out of the country despite knowledge of the forecasted life-threatening conditions,” Butler said, referencing Bass’s controversial trip to Ghana Africa before the fires.

”Responsibility for continuity of leadership and citywide coordination rests with the mayor, and in this case, that responsibility was not met

It wasn’t just Karen Bass. And she was likely too dumb to do anything anyway

The bigger issue was the handling of the fire just previous to the Palisades Fire that was prevented from being fully contained and left smoldering to protect endangered plant life.. l

Plant life that was later completely destroyed along with 6,000 structures and killing people

Days before Palisades inferno, firefighters were ordered to leave smoldering burn site​

Days before Palisades inferno, firefighters were ordered to leave smoldering burn site

Texts between three firefighters and a third party reveal previously undisclosed details about the Los Angeles Fire Department's handling of a Pacific Palisades burn site.

www.latimes.com

• Firefighters alerted a battalion chief that areas of a New Year’s Day fire in Pacific Palisades, known as the Lachman fire, were still smoldering the next day, according to text messages.
• The firefighters were ordered to pack up and leave anyway, instead of monitoring the burn area for reignitions.
• Federal authorities say the blaze reignited on Jan. 7, destroying thousands of homes and killing 12 people.

This was gross negligence and incompetence…

Combined with decisions that left nearby water reservoirs empty

 

[ShadowRun]

It wasn’t just Karen Bass. And she was likely too dumb to do anything anyway

The bigger issue was the handling of the fire just previous to the Palisades Fire that was prevented from being fully contained and left smoldering to protect endangered plant life.. l

Plant life that was later completely destroyed along with 6,000 structures and killing people

Days before Palisades inferno, firefighters were ordered to leave smoldering burn site​

Days before Palisades inferno, firefighters were ordered to leave smoldering burn site

Texts between three firefighters and a third party reveal previously undisclosed details about the Los Angeles Fire Department's handling of a Pacific Palisades burn site.

www.latimes.com

• Firefighters alerted a battalion chief that areas of a New Year’s Day fire in Pacific Palisades, known as the Lachman fire, were still smoldering the next day, according to text messages.
• The firefighters were ordered to pack up and leave anyway, instead of monitoring the burn area for reignitions.
• Federal authorities say the blaze reignited on Jan. 7, destroying thousands of homes and killing 12 people.

This was gross negligence and incompetence…

Combined with decisions that left nearby water reservoirs empty

Yes so true , good post bro