Opinion California on fire

[chardog]

It does help but it wouldn't have done much in this case with the winds being as high as they were.

it does help mitigate the issue a whole lot, keeping the ground clear of deadwood can have a profound effect on how fast it spreads, and how intense it spreads. Days after the event, people are actively pruning palm trees in nearby cities because there are well know for catching fire. Healthy trees themselves are a lot more fire resistant, it's the dead fall that's problematic.

 

[RoastBeast]

it does help mitigate the issue a whole lot, keeping the ground clear of deadwood can have a profound effect on how fast it spreads, and how intense it spreads. Days after the event, people are actively pruning palm trees in nearby cities because there are well know for catching fire. Healthy trees themselves are a lot more fire resistant, it's the dead fall that's problematic.

It helps greatly in wooded areas but that area of CA near the coast is basically all brush and there isn't much you can do about it when you couple brush fires with 80mph winds. Cut a dozer line and the fire just hops right over it in high winds like that. Doesn't matter if there's an 8 lane highway there, the fire will cross easily. Back burning areas of brush would have to be done every year or every other year. It's just not feasible like it is in forested areas.

Don't get me wrong, we can blame dozens and dozens of other much bigger fires on the lack of fire mitigation work being done in the state but I don't think it would have had much of any effect in this case specifically.

What's kind of funny is now that the feds are talking about paying for everything, essentially the entire state has sent their resources down there. I'm hearing from the guys that there's way too many resources down there and there's not a whole lot they can do that's efficient or effective. It's kind of like inviting 20 people over to help you move a couch. 3 are helping and the rest are just in the way. It's essentially a cash grab on federal tax dollars.

 

[ShadowRun]

Dudes a pussy

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

 

[White Whale]

Climate change is the excuse bureaucrats use when they don't want to avoid responsibility.

 

[ShadowRun]

“These people shoutout of put themselves in the fires “

LAFD officials

 

[Hog-train]

Is it really true the firefighters are infested with DEI?

 

[Ruv]

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Mugshots of the arrested looters are being released, look like a bunch of upstanding citizens imo.

- We had one guys stealing the shoes of a acidented biker here. You dont mess with delivery workers. Dude is probably serving as food to worms now.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Is it really true the firefighters are infested with DEI?

- I used to read on a police forum. And several of them said that. Dont know how true is.
In america, you dont do a firefighter course? Like the people with the best notes become firefighters.

 

[jefferz]

Thanks for linking that. I'd forgotten about it as well didn't lose power. I'd like to add that though the temperature dropped down very cold in 2011 it wasn't a 4-5 day long freeze where people lost their lives. in 2011 most homes and businesses had their power back on the same day. I agree that the infrastructure here is not suited for cold weather like that, but I don't consider these two events the same or comparable. I do think the energy companies running the infrastructure are bullshit, especially after last summers category 1 storm took Houston out for nearly two weeks. turns out, the first three days, the most critical, was lost because reliant (or Centerpoint, cant remember) was arguing about the out of state workers per diem. my sister in law stayed with us for 8 days before her power was restored. this company made billions in profit and argued over a few dollars per day as opposed to getting the power back on at all costs.

Yes, there wasn't casualties like there were in 2021, but it showed how vulnerable the infrastructure is, and how they didn't do anything to prevent it from happening again.
Sadly, people lost their lives in 2021 to something that could have been easily prevented.

 

[Sinister]

Good thing we have Republicans to threaten to block aid if the debt ceiling doesnt get raised in times of emergency:

Mike Johnson Vows to Hold Aid to California Hostage After Deadly Fires

Republicans, in the peak of cruelty, are turning the L.A. fires into a political bargaining chip.

newrepublic.com

 

[avenue94]

There is no water in the fire hydrants, no fire prevention done, water reservoir empty, DEI applicants hired to mismanage things, No plan at all to prevent fires in a state that regularly gets fires, and money that was supposed to be spent for fire prevention was wasted.

But apparently you think this is all fine and dandy. They literally couldn't have done anything else to screw this up more of they tried. But Go Gavin!!!

Who said anything was fine and dandy? What I do see is you ducking the question after someone calls you out for posting objectively wrong information. So are you going to admit that you got fooled by the laziest twitter shitposts, are you are purposefully trying to mislead people cuz you only care about partisanship?

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

posting objectively wrong information.

Which part was wrong?

 

[avenue94]

Which part was wrong?

Fire department recieving less funding this year. Funding was up several percent, people can't seem to wrap their heads around how to read basic budgets.

 

[Natural Order]

Good thing we have Republicans to threaten to block aid if the debt ceiling doesnt get raised in times of emergency:

Mike Johnson Vows to Hold Aid to California Hostage After Deadly Fires

Republicans, in the peak of cruelty, are turning the L.A. fires into a political bargaining chip.

newrepublic.com

They couldn't deal with it themselves when they had 100 billion dollar surplus just a few years ago.

Any aid now should most certainly come with an oversight committee to ensure funding is to legitimate ways to mitigate future fire disasters (Pro Tip: Newsome did FUCK ALL)

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

Good thing we have Republicans to threaten to block aid if the debt ceiling doesnt get raised in times of emergency:

Mike Johnson Vows to Hold Aid to California Hostage After Deadly Fires

Republicans, in the peak of cruelty, are turning the L.A. fires into a political bargaining chip.

newrepublic.com

bro....you can't have fallen for that article. you're not that naive. read it again a little closer

the title says he VOWS to hold aid. then they tell u what he really said

"It appears to us that state and local leaders were derelict in their duty in many respects, so that’s something that has to be factored in. I think there should probably be conditions on that aid."

Asked whether he planned on conditioning the aid to debt ceiling negotiations, Johnson said that option is on the table. “There’s some discussion about that, but we’ll see where it goes.”





then look at all the creative quotations in there lmao -

Johnson isn’t the only one. Senate Majority Whip John Barrasso told Face the Nation on Sunday that he expected “there will be strings attached to money that is ultimately approved, and it has to do with being ready the next time, because this was a gross failure this time.”

He thinks that because the “policies of the liberal administration” had “made these fires worse,” the people of that administration should suffer too.

On Monday, Senator Ron Johnson told Wake Up America that he wouldn’t vote for any aid to California “unless we see a dramatic change in how they’re gonna be handling these things in the future.… These are decisions Californian Democrats have made.… It’s their fault.”





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i see why you only posted the headline and link, and your own misrepresentation of what the article really says.




you slippery slut

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

Ima just post the whole thing, share the creative writing with the whole class -

Mike Johnson Vows to Hold Aid to California Hostage After Deadly Fires​

Republicans, in the peak of cruelty, are turning the L.A. fires into a political bargaining chip.​

CHIP SOMODEVILLA/GETTY IMAGES

Republican leadership continues to use one of the worst natural disasters in U.S. history as political leverage.

On Monday, House Speaker Mike Johnson told CNN’s Manu Raju that there should be “conditions” on the proposed federal aid to California in the wake of the deadly wildfires in Los Angeles County.
“It appears to us that state and local leaders were derelict in their duty in many respects, so that’s something that has to be factored in. I think there should probably be conditions on that aid.”

Asked whether he planned on conditioning the aid to debt ceiling negotiations, Johnson said that option is on the table. “There’s some discussion about that, but we’ll see where it goes.”

Nearly 200,000 L.A. residents have been placed under evacuation order, and many won’t have homes to return to. Over 12,000 buildings—including a public library, a medical center, a church, a synagogue, and large swaths of a predominantly Black neighborhood—have been destroyed so far in the wildfires. At least 24 are dead, and likely counting. The total land burned in these Los Angeles wildfires is bigger than Paris.
In short, the wildfires are a devastating national catastrophe. For Johnson to so casually suggest that there should be any conditions at all on aid to the affected areas of California is absolutely cruel and unusual.

Johnson isn’t the only one. Senate Majority Whip John Barrasso told Face the Nation on Sunday that he expected “there will be strings attached to money that is ultimately approved, and it has to do with being ready the next time, because this was a gross failure this time.” He thinks that because the “policies of the liberal administration” had “made these fires worse,” the people of that administration should suffer too.

On Monday, Senator Ron Johnson told Wake Up America that he wouldn’t vote for any aid to California “unless we see a dramatic change in how they’re gonna be handling these things in the future.… These are decisions Californian Democrats have made.… It’s their fault.”
At the time of this writing, the fires continue to burn through Los Angeles County.

 

[jrams]

Dudes a pussy

How does this dude cry about everything? Is he going through menopause?

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

Is this scenario possible?

1. Politicians line their pockets for years with money supposed to go into infrastructure and whatever else. instead it goes into bribes, paying blackmailers, buying votes, luxury cars and hair gel and hookers and houses and blow. because you know it does.

2. they put a bunch of dei and "woke" policies in place, reasoning (with their greedy little reptile brains) that if anything major ever results from their theft and corruption, they can blame the dei policies. And all the unfortunate folks they put in roles they weren't qualified for were probably trying to do a good job....but they were put there to absorb blame. And the policies themselves were put in place to absorb blame. That's the only way some of those policies make sense, really.

3. they proclaim dei was a bad idea and move on. Even if it gets out of hand and makes the big, real politicians look like incompetent morons for adopting those policies in the 1st place, and they all lose their jobs and get booted out of politics ......so what? They would then just retire .....still out of prison and with allllllllllll that money. Having ruined the lives of countless citizens and also the poor pawns they put in positions they were unqualified for.

How likely is this scenario?