Opinion California on fire

[MWB1982]

 

[MWB1982]

It might be on for real

You people in California better be ready to defend yourselves

 

[Scerpi]

Again, you're asking for a crystal ball here. The reservoirs aren't meant for fighting wildfires, they're for normal utilities primarily. If you to argue that the infrastructure should have been upgraded earlier, sure, but that's decisions made years and decades ago.

I'm sure heads will roll. But there's a big difference between actually trying to have a constructive civic conversations on where neighborhoods should be built and what to do with ones in clear fire zones versus pointless partisan sniping, a la Trump and lots of his supporters now. They have no interest in actual solutions (cough cough climate change can't be ignored), it's only about trying to grab headlines and settle political scores.

lol.... Yes its climate change. Like the Santa Ana winds are recent phenomenon.

And Fire Demand is absolutely an engineering criteria for designing a Water Supply System.... Are you fucking kidding? The three 1 million gallon tanks lasted for about one day... there's 117 million gallons in this reservoir. It would have lasted almost a week at least. Combined the with City's connected system, they could have at least saved a good part of the city instead of having to bail out and let the fire go unabated.

These people are paid to consider worst case scenarios. The threat of fire here is not a new issue, there's always been droughts here. There's recorded history of severe droughts going back 200 years. Stop with the climate bullshit. The City gets blasted by the desert yearly.... way before people even lived there. lol...

God... you're broken records. Too much rain - Climate Change, Droughts - Climate Change... lol fuck off already

It certainly looks like this 117MG reservoir was the primary storage location while the 3 - 1 million gallon tanks were there for local storage to provide water system pressure. That's pretty standard in these hilly areas to have smaller water tanks elevated to provide system pressure without resorting to relying on a pump station with a hydro tank to provide water pressure.

So they were relying on the the lower elevation pump stations to fill the smaller GST's until the reservoir was put back online.

Note the last paragraphs...so it begins. Let the music start...

An Important Reservoir Was Offline When the Fires Began​

The Santa Ynez Reservoir in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood had been shut down. Water there normally helps replenish tanks that were drained by firefighters.

An important reservoir was offline when the fires began.

The Santa Ynez Reservoir in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood had been shut down. Water there normally helps replenish tanks that were drained by firefighters.

www.nytimes.com

Traci Park, the Los Angeles City Council member whose district includes Pacific Palisades, had not been made aware that the reservoir was offline, a spokesman said on Friday.

The spokesman, Pete Brown, said Ms. Park and her team had many questions about the water systems and the Santa Ynez Reservoir, and would be seeking more answers about whether it should have been out of commission.

 

[Osculater]

They said something about almond farms taking all the water yesterday on some news clip I saw. I think it takes 10 gallons of water to produce 1 almond. I don't know the exact ratio.

Yup and also avocado's
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Almonds
It takes about one gallon of water to grow one almond. In California, almonds use 10% of the state's freshwater resources."
"It takes about 84 gallons of water to produce one avocado. In Spain, avocado production has led to water stress."

 

[Teppodama]

My comment remains too, if any risk that exists in the world is enough for you to reason that we shouldn't do this thing or build some structures, that's a pretty retarded.


We shouldn't inhabit literally the most economically prosperous region on Earth because sometimes there are wild fires. Yikes this post is cringe.

I don't care where anyone lives, their choice. Just don't do so and expect to never have to deal with the realities of where you decided to build. Take appropriate precautions and make sure you not only have insurance but that your elected officials are acting responsibly with your taxes to ensure robust resources in the event of disaster. If they don't then hold their asses to the fire of accountability and see they don't hold and office again. But at the most basic realize sooner or later Cali burns. Live there at your own risk and assume the responsibility for doing so.

 

[High Test With da Best]

Huge if true

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Again, you're asking for a crystal ball here. The reservoirs aren't meant for fighting wildfires, they're for normal utilities primarily. If you to argue that the infrastructure should have been upgraded earlier, sure, but that's decisions made years and decades ago.

I'm sure heads will roll. But there's a big difference between actually trying to have a constructive civic conversations on where neighborhoods should be built and what to do with ones in clear fire zones versus pointless partisan sniping, a la Trump and lots of his supporters now. They have no interest in actual solutions (cough cough climate change can't be ignored), it's only about trying to grab headlines and settle political scores.

I think most reasonable people agree that using these tragedies to one up your political/ideologic opposites is poor form, just like those once every 500 years phenomenons, you previously reference, that no community can possibly prepare 100% for, just like the Houston freeze. But people still do.

 

[Richmma80]

The looting has begun

 

[Protectandserve]

My brother’s fire department from Northern California has sent a shitload of Fire Fighters and apparatus down to assist LA.

Including a massive USAR contingent, they are worried it’s gonna be like Paradise with a big death toll.

Sorry, but what is USAR?

urban search and rescue

 

[MWB1982]

Mexico is sending help. We'll help Mexico out with the cartels in the near future

Thanks

 

[Scerpi]

Yup and also avocado's
"
Almonds
It takes about one gallon of water to grow one almond. In California, almonds use 10% of the state's freshwater resources."
"It takes about 84 gallons of water to produce one avocado. In Spain, avocado production has led to water stress."

Fuck the almonds...

Keep the avocados

 

[Osculater]

Fuck the almonds...

Keep the avocados

 

[MWB1982]

Firemen getting the free burgers they deserve

 

[Scerpi]

The looting has begun

Saw those videos and decided not to post them...

It's infuriating. Same kind of scum who loot homes of people who evacuate for hurricanes.

Should be shot on sight when inside someone's home

 

[irish_thug]

Can't have fire breaks or clear fuel because of the migration patterns of mice? LoL

Mice?

Mice?

You know who doesn't have a problem adapting to almost any change? Mice.

 

[Osculater]

Saw those videos and decided not to post them...

It's infuriating. Same kind of scum who loot homes of people who evacuate for hurricanes.

Should be shot on sight when inside someone's home

Or burn..... nevermind

 

[IDGETKTFO]

They got Mel Gibson's home

Mel is used to houses burning down.

 

[Scerpi]

Again, you're asking for a crystal ball here. The reservoirs aren't meant for fighting wildfires, they're for normal utilities primarily. If you to argue that the infrastructure should have been upgraded earlier, sure, but that's decisions made years and decades ago.

I'm sure heads will roll. But there's a big difference between actually trying to have a constructive civic conversations on where neighborhoods should be built and what to do with ones in clear fire zones versus pointless partisan sniping, a la Trump and lots of his supporters now. They have no interest in actual solutions (cough cough climate change can't be ignored), it's only about trying to grab headlines and settle political scores.

It's on now....



Remember what I said

"Cover your ass"

Edit... Karen Bass is fucked... But she's a stooge.

 

[Osculater]

It's on now....



Remember what I said

"Cover your ass"

 

[lifelessheap]

This will drive up housing demand. Buckle up for the Californians coming to your town. I went to Idaho after Paradise burned down.