Social California changes rules for high school athletics with trans competitors

[ShadowRun]

“OMg why do you guys even care “

Meanwhile the media

 

[HereticBD]

“OMg why do you guys even care “

Meanwhile the media

You know, that's pretty accurate. "She" certainly is representing who she really is. A man.

 

[djacobox372]

This is ridiculous... sports are segregated by sex, not gender. Trans gender can compete with their own sex like everybody else.

 

[evansusmc2]

The people that support men playing in women's sports don't have children.

There's actually one on this board. I forget his handle but he says he has two girls. Pretty sad...

It is amazing that leftists, who tend to be mentally ill and have no real family for their own, continuously weasel their way to be in charge of other people's children.

This is one of the reasons kamalala lost. Enough people in the middle were disgusted with this.

 

[evansusmc2]

barring them from competition,

No one is barring boys from competing with other boys.

forcing them to compete against guys while they are still trying to affirm their identity,

And??? Life sucks! In high school I was stuck wrestling JV until a few team dual fill in matches my senior year. The wrecking machine teammate in my weight class had wrestled since he was 7. No one in the county could be this guy. It was frustrating watching him go out there and beat guys that I had beaten in free style over the summer. Either way, I dealt with it. I sure as hell didn't grow out my hair, act like a female and change my name just to have a crack at a medal.

Having said all that, I think the only reason such a big deal is made of their participation in sports in the first place is as a way to conflate this specific one issue with the existence of trans people in general as being some sort of awful scourge on society that should be eliminated.

Hey crazy pills.... I want you go read this to yourself..... and go back and look at the election results. Then look in the mirror and realize THAT is the face of why so many middle voters moved away from ya'll.

 

[HereticBD]

No one is barring boys from competing with other boys.

I love how this logic is so foreign to them.

"But how are they supposed to play sports?"

"Umm, the same way everyone else does. Not exactly a conundrum."

It's always the same extreme nonsense when it comes to this shit. Like being against trans people wanting their balls waxed in a female spa, is somehow erasing their existence.

 

[Strijfy]

I can't believe people still care about this stuff

I cant believe simps just flip over and accept something that just shouldnt be accepted

 

[Starck]

Surprised by all the complaining. I see this as being baby steps in the right direction.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Thats a better solution than others I've heard. I'm still in favor of an "open" div or more co ed leagues.

 

[Satur9]

Good. It is a start, but, it is far from perfect.

It is amazing how delusional this whole situation makes people. Anyone with experience mingling around with both sexes knows trans competing against women is unfair. We all know one is faster and stronger than the other. Just stop acting. Right now lol. Open sports up to everyone(co-ed) if we must appease the delusional, just know if the roster of athletes is dependent upon who performs the best at the sport, you WILL eliminate women from sports in most cases. It is what it is.

 

[Scerpi]

Having said all that, I think the only reason such a big deal is made of their participation in sports in the first place is as a way to conflate this specific one issue with the existence of trans people in general as being some sort of awful scourge on society that should be eliminated.

Or... or... Hear me out.

It could be that some of us don't like seeing girls getting their rights trampled on by boys. I have three daughters and I'd be irate if they had to go against males when they were on the swim team.

There's no was comparison in the swim times between the boys and girls.

What the fuck happened to progressives? lol

I don't give a fuck if someone wants to be trans. But just because your DECIDE to be trans, your rights don't get to suddenly supercede other people's rights.

Fuck... What an amazing concept

 

[cincymma79]

Or let them compete with girls, but keep the medals separate

Give them a participation Trophy. That’s bascailly what they’re doing anyway but beating up on girls



This dude is 6’+… lol

Why do you how big his dick is

 

[Hog-train]

Sounds Ike a decent compromise.

The first place biological girl wins a gold medal.

The person with the fastest time gets a medal.

But this doesn't address team sports like soccer, softball, etc.

I think the fact that there isn't just shows how few of them there are. Trans people are a tiny fraction of the population and the ones who participate in sports are likely a small fraction of that. I don't know what the fairest solution is but at the high school level in particular, this seems like a somewhat decent compromise even if it does sound silly in a way. It's got to be better than barring them from competition, forcing them to compete against guys while they are still trying to affirm their identity, or having to provide all the same resources (like coaches) for competitions with (perhaps) only a few participants where everyone gets a medal and no one is pushed to excel.

Having said all that, I think the only reason such a big deal is made of their participation in sports in the first place is as a way to conflate this specific one issue with the existence of trans people in general as being some sort of awful scourge on society that should be eliminated.

The pro trans athlete people like you keep using the same bullshit arguments over and over.

1. It's not happening.
2. Ok it's happening, but it's very few people.
3. Why do you care? This is a non-issue that bigots are overinflating.
4. Transwoman do not have a physical advantage because they took 1 year of hormones.
5. Trans people have a high suicidality rate so we should let them compete against girls.

Ignoring the fact that any attempts to ban transwoman from competing against girls is fought at literally every turn by people like you and every Democratic politician.

Yea bullshit that it's only bigots that care about this. YOU care. And so does the media. Everybody fucking cares. Because most people have a subconscious and visceral reaction to obvious unfairness.

I also completely dispute that this is a tiny minority of the population. I am seeing it in high school sports across the whole country.

And additionally, the number doesn't even matter. It's still cheating and unfair. It's kind of like saying "Oh only a few people are using steroids, so it's ok."

 

[evansusmc2]

Thats a better solution than others I've heard. I'm still in favor of an "open" div or more co ed leagues.

Won't work. Its already been covered a couple pages prior.

[ https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...with-trans-competitors.4360328/post-175234727

 

[nonoob]

update: The trans athlete who helped sparked the rule change this week, AB Hernandez, ended up taking first place in two of her events and second place in the other event at the california state championships finals on saturday https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/i...ab-hernandez-wins-girls-calif-high-jump-title

And the POS coward was BOO'd, and the Org allowing males to compete with females are a total F'n Joke, an insult to fair play, an even bigger insult to any normal view of humanity.

Let the boys compete ONLY against boys, PERIOD.


MANNN, this Cali mentality, the world would be So Much better if...


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[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Won't work. Its already been covered a couple pages prior.

[ https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...with-trans-competitors.4360328/post-175234727

A trans division won't work because there's not enough trans athletes in general in the entirety of the NCAA there's only 10 or so.

An open or Co-ed division could work because its elective for everyone who wants a challenge or wants exposure that they may not receive in their standard divs. Every suggestion is going to have issues but this is the one I find the least problematic because its completely by the athlete's choice, it avoids the gender argument, and imo Co-ed stuff is just fun to watch

 

[HereticBD]

A trans division won't work because there's not enough trans athletes in general in the entirety of the NCAA there's only 10 or so.

An open or Co-ed division could work because its elective for everyone who wants a challenge or wants exposure that they may not receive in their standard divs. Every suggestion is going to have issues but this is the one I find the least problematic because its completely by the athlete's choice, it avoids the gender argument, and imo Co-ed stuff is just fun to watch

They can do that right now in recreational sports leagues. Co-ed only works on a non-competitive level. At the elite level from high school and up, co-ed would have to be segregated, so that the girls faced the girls and the guys faced the guys. A co-ed league in any sport, would be a bloodbath for the ladies if they didn't have restrictions in place, so that the women never had to face off against men during the game, which pretty much defeats the purpose.

 

[chardog]

And the POS coward was BOO'd, and the Org allowing males to compete with females are a total F'n Joke, an insult to fair play, an even bigger insult to any normal view of humanity.

Let the boys compete ONLY against boys, PERIOD.


MANNN, this Cali mentality, the world would be So Much better if...


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hey buddy, this is not a real issue, according to leftists

 

[evansusmc2]

A trans division won't work because there's not enough trans athletes in general in the entirety of the NCAA there's only 10 or so.

For the 3rd time... it won't work because tran dudes reject it. If they can't whip up on real women they want no part of it.

An open or Co-ed division could work because its elective for everyone who wants a challenge or wants exposure that they may not receive in their standard divs. Every suggestion is going to have issues but this is the one I find the least problematic because its completely by the athlete's choice, it avoids the gender argument, and imo Co-ed stuff is just fun to watch

Where is this mass of college athletes that would WANT to join that mess? Spoiler alert: It's the same reason it doesn't exist NOW.

 

[SurferH2O]

Transpersons are less that 1/2 of 1% of the populace. We all have to accept our short comings in sports. I played a ton of street basketball, I could barely dunk in my prime. I was not good enough to play on any decent college basketball team (mens). If you are choosing to be trans you are also choosing not to participate in the opposite chromosome's sports. How the fuck anyone every allowed this in the first place on any level is pathetic.