Social Caitlyn Clark time’s athlete of the year despite lots of blow back.

[StewDogg11]

He was injured and they still won the World Series. Lots of great baseball players have never won a single World Series.

He had virtually nothing to do with them winning the actual World Series. He went 2-19 and of course offers nothing defensively.

 

[Koro_11]

Yeah, if you can understand Cubans you can understand pretty much any other Spanish accent.


Cubans are a special kind of Latino because they have been isolated by so long under the Castro dictatorship, i noticed this of Cubans too and also of Venezuelans recently.

Living under socialism just breaks a culture into hyper-individualized, cynical people.

When outside of Cuba however most Cubans quickly adapt to whatever country they are in.


Im not American, so i can't tell the experience of Latin Americans living up there, especially when all Hispanic-Americans i know are just my wife's extended family who seem to act pretty normally gringo to me.

I do know there is some friction somewhat but Latin Americans in general aren't very serious about their ethnicities


I think European bad blood tends to be more intense because Europe is made up of ethnicities with hundreds of years of existence and conflict, meanwhile American States tend to be very young with new ethnicities and identities that don't go back that much.

Latin America is very similar to America in that regard, but instead of being former British Empire, its former Spanish Empire.

In America you could have European immigrants that had centuries of bad blood between them, but in America while initially they may have formed cliques like Irish and Italians in the end they just lost their identity to become "white Americans" so you didn't had that inter-ethnic cruelty you see in the old continent.

Yeah they almost eat half of the word when they say it so I had no problems communicating what I wanted to say to them, but I often had to get them to repeat and slow down what they were saying to me.

Also yeah I think you make a good point, there is definitely something about them being a Communist dictatorship for so long that puts them in a category of their own among Latinos.


We kinda got off topic tho, my initial point was that I don't understand why Latinos are somehow considered some unified "race", like when they went after Trump and called him racist when he criticized illegals crossing into the States from Latin America, I never understood the logic behind that.

For example countries like Argentina and Uruguay both definitely have a much higher percentage of white majority than say Canada for example, yet I bet if you asked the average American they would probably tell you that Canada is a white country, whereas the other two are not.

It's like people just assume English is white, and Spanish is something else, even though Spaniards are also white Europeans.

 

[Rod1]

We kinda got off topic tho, my initial point was that I don't understand why Latinos are somehow considered some unified "race"

Because America, left and right is obsessed about "race" and they had to put Hispanics somewhere.

Plus race wasn't always about genes, race used to be a synonym of ethnicity and cultural values with language being the main divider used to weight more than genes or how people looked. The best examples is Greeks who thought all non-Greeks to be barbarians.

 

[Koro_11]

Because America, left and right is obsessed about "race" and they had to put Hispanics somewhere.

Plus race wasn't always about genes, race used to be a synonym of ethnicity and cultural values with language being the main divider used to weight more than genes or how people looked. The best examples is Greeks who thought all non-Greeks to be barbarians.

Fair enough, but even culturally it doesn't exactly work. I think that the average Uruguayan or Argentinian would culturally have more in common with the average Italian than they would with your average Mexican or Cuban.

Anyway, I agree with your explanation, Americans seem obsessed about race and the progressives like to play this victim game between anyone they deem "white" vs anyone else. They would love to shoehorn all of Latin America into this non white oppressed group while ignoring that a huge number of Latinos are as ethnically European as any white guy living in Europe or the Anglosphere.

In the end I believe the average Latino in Uruguay shares very little with the Latino in Cuba or Dominican, just a language. The black immigrant from Nigeria shares very little with the average black American who is a descendant of actual slaves, just a skin colour. The average white guy from Portugal or Albania shares very little with the average white guy from Iceland or Scotland, just a similar pigment... the whole putting people in racial categories thing is stupid and full of holes, just divisive bullshit.

 

[Rod1]

Fair enough, but even culturally it doesn't exactly work. I think that the average Uruguayan or Argentinian would culturally have more in common with the average Italian than they would with your average Mexican or Cuban.

Anyway, I agree with your explanation, Americans seem obsessed about race and the progressives like to play this victim game between anyone they deem "white" vs anyone else. They would love to shoehorn all of Latin America into this non white oppressed group while ignoring that a huge number of Latinos are as ethnically European as any white guy living in Europe or the Anglosphere.

In the end I believe the average Latino in Uruguay shares very little with the Latino in Cuba or Dominican, just a language. The black immigrant from Nigeria shares very little with the average black American who is a descendant of actual slaves, just a skin colour. The average white guy from Portugal or Albania shares very little with the average white guy from Iceland or Scotland, just a similar pigment... the whole putting people in racial categories thing is stupid and full of holes, just divisive bullshit.

Nah bro, i have friends from all over Latin America and you are definitively wrong on this case.

Our differences are mostly superficial, Cubans and recently Venezuelans have had some issues due to the special dysfunctionality of their countries but we get along just fine.

This is like claiming a guy from NYC who has an italian surname because of his great grandparent suddenly will find more at home in Palermo than Boston.

 

[Koro_11]

Nah bro, i have friends from all over Latin America and you are definitively wrong on this case.

Our differences are mostly superficial, Cubans and recently Venezuelans have had some issues due to the special dysfunctionality of their countries but we get along just fine.

This is like claiming a guy from NYC who has an italian surname because of his great grandparent suddenly will find more at home in Palermo than Boston.

They’re as culturally similar as a Canadian and an Australian I guess,

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

The best examples is Greeks who thought all non-Greeks to be barbarians.

They are.

 

[Rygu]

The whole idea of CC being so popular and so hyped because she is white is kind of dumb, it isn't because she's white it's because she possesses a skillset the league hasn't seen before.

Wait until JuJu Watkins (who is black) gets drafted, it will be the same type of hype. A player with an elite skillset rarely, if ever, seen by the league will be entering it.

 

[Staph infection]

The whole idea of CC being so popular and so hyped because she is white is kind of dumb, it isn't because she's white it's because she possesses a skillset the league hasn't seen before.

Wait until JuJu Watkins (who is black) gets drafted, it will be the same type of hype. A player with an elite skillset rarely, if ever, seen by the league will be entering it.

She is the Ronda of the WNBA. Woman with limited skills but skills that are still light years ahead of the woman they compete against so they get all the press and are thrust into the limelight. Both the WNBA and WMMA should not be a thing and shut down.

 

[Rod1]

They are.

I should had said "non-greek speakers"

 

[Rod1]

They’re as culturally similar as a Canadian and an Australian I guess,

yeah, kind of like that

 

[Gotosleepho]

He had virtually nothing to do with them winning the actual World Series. He went 2-19 and of course offers nothing defensively.

He was MVP and a champion. Deal with it.

 

[koquerelle]

Not going to lie. I barely know how she looks like. I googled her photos. I was expecting a giant but she is 6 foot ?

She's good, but she's a turnover machine and some of her stats were awful. No WNBA woman should get athlete of the year. It's a horrible league.