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JSN said:
I think it does work like that. My idea is better though. I think anyone caught committing a felony who’s here illegally should be immediately return to Mexico. Via catapult.
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What angled trajectory? Im a fan of 85 degrees.
 
Badger67 said:
What angled trajectory? Im a fan of 85 degrees.
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That would be sick if they could be launched into the upper atmosphere, freeze into a popsicle, then get singed upon re-entry but stay frozen at the core so that they shatter on impact. I’m thinking this will call for a launch angle very close to normal with the ground.
 
DespicablePeep said:
I´m not curious about you, anyone that blames a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile victim is clearly a loser. The :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile should not be out on the streets, that is the issue.
If you want to know how many kids I have, just search sherdog, I have said in multiple threads already.

"Harry Eugene Goularte, 43, was released by cops after being charged with molesting a minor under 14 "up to 100 times"
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"Blames a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile victim"? Cain is the victim of the :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile according to your statement. If his wife were raped he'd be the victim of the rapist? That's how you frame your thoughts?

Or, are you unable to frame a logical thought and state that I "Hold Cain accountable for his criminal action of wounding someone while committing Attempted 1st Degree Murder which may see him go to prison, negatively impacting himself, his wife, and his children, one of which may truly need him right now if they were the victim."

Reading comprehension isn't your thing. You gloss over me stating that I can understand rage and the want to injure / kill the offender. You'd rather engage in some white-knighting in an attempt to minimize the fact that Cain royally f*cked up, acted in a criminally negligent manner, injured someone, and failed to get one ounce of the revenge he's seeking.

You don't like seeing Cain being held to a standard that he failed to live up to and don't like hearing how he's potentially f*cked himself and his family over. Congrats on being his biggest fanboy. Maybe he'll write you from prison.

I knew you weren't the sharpest pencil when you resorted to name calling. Throw the word loser in your response again. It's cute to see that level of debate. Let's us know who we're dealing with.
 
Ichibanner said:
"Blames a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile victim"? Cain is the victim of the :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile according to your statement. If his wife were raped he'd be the victim of the rapist? That's how you frame your thoughts?.
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Yes, whole hte family are victims. If you actually had one, you would understand.

Have a good day :eek::eek::eek::eek: apologist
 
Loiosh said:
Both of his parents are citizens and he was born here.

This is an insane tangent.
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How is it insane? Cain's father was born in Mexico, he has relatives in Mexico, he lives in and was arrested in a state that borders Mexico, he speaks English and Spanish, and has an estimated net worth in the millions.

He illegally transported a loaded handgun in his vehicle while chasing down another vehicle, got out of his vehicle and fired into the other vehicle wounding someone who wasn't his target.

You really think considering him fleeing the country to avoid prosecution or sentencing over Attempted 1st Degree Murder is an "insane tangent"? Why? Because he's been a beacon of rational behavior or because you can't conceive of this being an option that he might consider?
 
DespicablePeep said:
Yes, whole hte family are victims. If you actually had one, you would understand.

Have a good day :eek::eek::eek::eek: apologist
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You are too funny. Pointing out that Cain royally f*cked up is being a :eek::eek::eek::eek: apologist.

Thanks for proving that you don't have a logical thought in that head of yours.

So, you're saying that you'd do the same thing and potentially leave your kids to be raised by a single mom or stepdad while you rot in prison?
 
Ichibanner said:
How is it insane? Cain's father was born in Mexico, he has relatives in Mexico, he lives in and was arrested in a state that borders Mexico, he speaks English and Spanish, and has an estimated net worth in the millions.

He illegally transported a loaded handgun in his vehicle while chasing down another vehicle, got out of his vehicle and fired into the other vehicle wounding someone who wasn't his target.

You really think considering him fleeing the country to avoid prosecution or sentencing over Attempted 1st Degree Murder is an "insane tangent"? Why? Because he's been a beacon of rational behavior or because you can't conceive of this being an option that he might consider?
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The discussion was about Cain getting deported.
 
Ichibanner said:
You are too funny. Pointing out that Cain royally f*cked up is being a :eek::eek::eek::eek: apologist.

Thanks for proving that you don't have a logical thought in that head of yours.

So, you're saying that you'd do the same thing and potentially leave your kids to be raised by a single mom or stepdad while you rot in prison?
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{<jimmies}apologist
 
Here’s one for you: a nyc man punched another man in the face putting him in a coma. While he was unconscious, he robbed him. He bonded out for that. He was already out on bond for a robbery. In august, the victim died and a grand jury indicted the attacker. He was released WITHOUT BOND ON A PERSONAL RECOGNIZANCE BOND!
Fucking bail reform

https://nypost.com/2022/03/10/crimi...r-charge-freed-without-bail-by-nyc-judge/amp/
 
nhbbear said:
I am hitting a paywall with this. Can you copy and paste the story?
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SAN JOSE — An East Bay man has been charged with attempted murder and weapons crimes after authorities say he shot and wounded a Mountain View police officer during a traffic stop this past weekend, according to prosecutors and court documents.

Jeffrey Thomas Choy, 39, of Union City, was arraigned Wednesday in a San Jose courtroom, where he answered to charges of attempted murder, being a felon in possession of a firearm, carrying a concealed firearm in a vehicle, and carrying a loaded firearm in a vehicle, all felonies.
Additionally, Choy was charged with misdemeanor counts of possessing a firearm while being the subject of a protective order, hit and run causing property damage, and destroying or concealing evidence.

Records show that Choy has a previous attempted robbery conviction in Alameda County and has an active restraining order filed against him in that county. He was also the subject of an arrest warrant in Santa Clara County after being charged with a weapons violation — for which he posted bail — and for failing to show up to a related June 21 court date.

Choy appeared briefly in court in red jail clothing with a surgical mask covering his face, and Judge Shelyna Brown remanded him back to the Santa Clara County Main Jail, where he is being held without bail. Brown ordered Choy to return to court Sept. 7.

“We charged a man with trying to murder a police officer, firing a gun at the officer at point-blank range,” District Attorney Jeff Rosen said outside the courthouse Wednesday. “But for a few inches, but for wearing a protective vest, but for the officer’s reflex, we would be having a funeral or memorial service and this would be a murder case instead of an attempted murder case.”

Mountain View Police Chief Chris Hsiung said after the arraignment that the officer, a five-year department member whose name has not been publicly released, is recovering at home. Investigators stated in a one-page case summary accompanying the criminal complaint that the wounded officer was shot in the left forearm, and a second round that hit him in the left shoulder was absorbed by his bulletproof vest.

The shooting “wasn’t just an attack on the police officer, it wasn’t just an attack on the police department, but really an attack like that is an attack on the community,” Hsiung said. “We are checking in with him every single day … and we do anticipate seeing him very soon back at the police department and back on the streets of Mountain View.”

He added that the shooting is why officers are made “acutely aware of the dangers that every traffic stop poses.”

The shooting was reported around 12:40 a.m. Saturday when the Mountain View officer was conducting a DUI enforcement shift. He stopped the driver of a gold Ford Explorer after seeing the vehicle run a stop sign near Villa and Hope streets, and then drive through a four-way intersection.

The officer was walking up to the driver’s side of the vehicle near Wild Cherry Lane and saw both of the windows of that side rolled down, and then reportedly heard the sound of someone racking the slide of a handgun. Soon after, the officer saw the driver “lean forward and point a black colored semi-automatic handgun out of the driver window and directly towards him,” according to the summary.

That sight was corroborated by body-camera images released by police. The driver fired two rounds at the officer, who by that point had turned around and dove toward his patrol vehicle, police said. After he was hit twice, the officer was taken to an area hospital and was released later that day.

After the shooting, Choy drove away but traveled less than a mile before he crashed his vehicle near Higdon Avenue and ran away, police said.
 
Spounman said:
SAN JOSE — An East Bay man has been charged with attempted murder and weapons crimes after authorities say he shot and wounded a Mountain View police officer during a traffic stop this past weekend, according to prosecutors and court documents.

Jeffrey Thomas Choy, 39, of Union City, was arraigned Wednesday in a San Jose courtroom, where he answered to charges of attempted murder, being a felon in possession of a firearm, carrying a concealed firearm in a vehicle, and carrying a loaded firearm in a vehicle, all felonies.
Additionally, Choy was charged with misdemeanor counts of possessing a firearm while being the subject of a protective order, hit and run causing property damage, and destroying or concealing evidence.

Records show that Choy has a previous attempted robbery conviction in Alameda County and has an active restraining order filed against him in that county. He was also the subject of an arrest warrant in Santa Clara County after being charged with a weapons violation — for which he posted bail — and for failing to show up to a related June 21 court date.

Choy appeared briefly in court in red jail clothing with a surgical mask covering his face, and Judge Shelyna Brown remanded him back to the Santa Clara County Main Jail, where he is being held without bail. Brown ordered Choy to return to court Sept. 7.

“We charged a man with trying to murder a police officer, firing a gun at the officer at point-blank range,” District Attorney Jeff Rosen said outside the courthouse Wednesday. “But for a few inches, but for wearing a protective vest, but for the officer’s reflex, we would be having a funeral or memorial service and this would be a murder case instead of an attempted murder case.”

Mountain View Police Chief Chris Hsiung said after the arraignment that the officer, a five-year department member whose name has not been publicly released, is recovering at home. Investigators stated in a one-page case summary accompanying the criminal complaint that the wounded officer was shot in the left forearm, and a second round that hit him in the left shoulder was absorbed by his bulletproof vest.

The shooting “wasn’t just an attack on the police officer, it wasn’t just an attack on the police department, but really an attack like that is an attack on the community,” Hsiung said. “We are checking in with him every single day … and we do anticipate seeing him very soon back at the police department and back on the streets of Mountain View.”

He added that the shooting is why officers are made “acutely aware of the dangers that every traffic stop poses.”

The shooting was reported around 12:40 a.m. Saturday when the Mountain View officer was conducting a DUI enforcement shift. He stopped the driver of a gold Ford Explorer after seeing the vehicle run a stop sign near Villa and Hope streets, and then drive through a four-way intersection.

The officer was walking up to the driver’s side of the vehicle near Wild Cherry Lane and saw both of the windows of that side rolled down, and then reportedly heard the sound of someone racking the slide of a handgun. Soon after, the officer saw the driver “lean forward and point a black colored semi-automatic handgun out of the driver window and directly towards him,” according to the summary.

That sight was corroborated by body-camera images released by police. The driver fired two rounds at the officer, who by that point had turned around and dove toward his patrol vehicle, police said. After he was hit twice, the officer was taken to an area hospital and was released later that day.

After the shooting, Choy drove away but traveled less than a mile before he crashed his vehicle near Higdon Avenue and ran away, police said.
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Thanks for that. However, it read to me like he posted bond for the weapons and attempted robbery charge, not the attempted murder and other charges for which he was held without bond. With that said, I have argued this for other cases and did a quick search and found many many cases where suspects posted low bonds on actual murder, rape, and all kinds of stuff. We are talking bonds of 50k for the attempted charges meaning 5 was all that was needed. I posted those on stories slamming progressive da’s and in a thread about a police officer that was charged with murder for an on duty shooting that was iffy at best, and they denied him bond as if he was a threat to others while they allow gangbangers out who actually meant to commit crimes. It’s fucked up. I don’t think Cain should have a low bond because he could try again. But I think 500k bond and home confinement monitoring would be appropriate.
 
Read the letter UFC President Dana White sent to the judge overseeing the Cain Velasquez case

I don't know if this was previously available but this article came out on the 20th.

March 4, 2022

To the honorable judge of the Santa Clara Superior Court,

I write this reference in full knowledge of Cain Velasquez’s current charges of attempted murder and assault. I was stunned to learn of these charges against him, as they are completely out of character for the man I was proud to say was a two-time UFC Heavyweight Champion.

I (Dana White) have known Mr. Velasquez for more than 15 years, and during his time as an active athlete with UFC, he represented our company with dignity and always treated others with respect. He was a model example of how a professional athlete should carry himself, projecting a positive image to UFC’s fanbase. Mr. Velasquez was extremely professional and went above and beyond to make a connection with our fans and promote the sport of mixed martial arts—- not only as an entertainment product, but also as a character—building discipline.

As a Mexican American, Mr. Velasquez was proud of his heritage and never passed up an opportunity to visit Mexico on behalf of our company and demonstrate his gratitude to the Mexican fans for their support.

People who know him best describe him as a humble, soft-spoken man who was very much dedicated t0 his family, including his wife and his two children.

If given the opportunity, I’m sure Mr. Velasquez would like nothing more than to return to his family and continue to make a positive impact on his community.

I sincerely ask that you take this into consideration as you adjudicate next steps in this process concerning Mr. Velasquez.

lf you wish for me to confirm any of the above, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely,
Dana White
UFC President​


Cain Velasquez was denied bail for a third time last week. The former UFC heavyweight champion has been in custody since February 28 and is due back in court on August 5 with an August 19 plea hearing also on the court calendar.
 
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